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Correct new logo Kyrgyz Superior League - ID 59005735

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By felipe_jarreta 18 August 2021 - 01:58 AM UTC 

How can i fix this?

 

Please make sure you have copied the content from the @2 folders from each update and place in the corresponding folder. This includes the config file.

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By Derek 18 August 2021 - 07:54 AM UTC 

Please make sure you have copied the content from the @2 folders from each update and place in the corresponding folder. This includes the config file.

 

Thank you!

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SamuelMessi10
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Perdón, solo quería saber si me podrian hacer un logo de acero de un escudo que yo les mande? 

Sois unos campeones de narices haciendo estas cosas, enhorabuena.

 

Sorry, I just wanted to know if you could make me a steel logo of a shield that I send you? You guys are champions of noses doing these things, congratulations.

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By SamuelMessi10 21 August 2021 - 23:17 PM UTC 

Perdón, solo quería saber si me podrian hacer un logo de acero de un escudo que yo les mande? 

Sois unos campeones de narices haciendo estas cosas, enhorabuena.

 

Sorry, I just wanted to know if you could make me a steel logo of a shield that I send you? You guys are champions of noses doing these things, congratulations.

 

Yes sure. Please post it here in the best quality you have.

AndreaSSL1900
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Derek
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This Friday is the cut off point for any logos to be included in Update 6.

 

Thank you as always for the help.

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Dear @Derek and @AndreaSSL1900 

 

I would like to start by saying that I really love the fact that this site has got a lot of different logo packs and that the Steel logo's looks great.

 

But I have come across this and I think it not the best way of doing things 🤨.

 

Almost all of andreassl1900 “research” is a direct copy from the request thread of the metallic logo project:

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/741/request-thread

 

I don't mind that you derek or anyone else for that matter looks at the request thread of the metallic logos and use that information on their own logo project. But I must say that I find it not appropriate to each day copy the content and getting credit for others research. I strongly believe that andreassl1900 should stop doing this and make his own real research 🤷‍♂️👍. 

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@Qvordrup 

 

Firstly, thank you for the kind words on Steel Logos.

 

I wasn’t aware that this was the case as I very rarely venture outside of my own topics. I can understand where your coming from on this and ultimately it’s a decision for you guys as staff have to make as I’m simply a contributor to this site.

 

Although I can’t speak for others, perhaps we can agree there was no malice meant in what  AndreaSSLazio1900 was doing in ‘researching’ the logos as he was ultimately trying to help.

 

Can I suggest a possible alternative which could benefit all members and creators?

 

I have in the past set up projects such as source logos on FM View which assisted creators in accessing large quantities of standard logos in the best quality available to encourage new styles and larger packs. This is something which I’m currently in the process of doing for my own site Football Manager Graphics and would be happy to share the work here.

 

I’ve been working on that project now for the past 3 months and has allowed me to improve Steel Logos and also develop three new logo megapack styles which I’ve yet to release.

 

To summarise I can open a new thread ‘Source Logos’ and upload my standard source logos for creators to download. Any member can then post missing or updated logos.

AndreaSSL1900
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Exactly i'm trying to help. The research for italian logos from 1 to 7th tiers is all mine and i think all logopack MUST HAVE the same ammount of logos to be must complete as possible and don't care where and it doesn't matter where the photos come from because anyone can find them on the internet in the official sites of the teams or specialized sites, so anyone is free to post the same photos wherever they want if they think they are useful to complete a pack that he uses rather than another. If i want use Steel Logos pack instead of Metallic Logos and i I want this package to reach or exceed the number of logos present in the Metallic Logos, because I cannot do it and I cannot provide the same logos, which I repeat everyone can find? You can find them, i can find them, everyone can find them.
In my opinion it is ridiculous that a pack of logos has far fewer logos than another and it is right to use any way you see fit to provide logos to complete a pack, even "stealing" them which is what you accuse me of and which in reality is not as the images of the logos can be found anywhere on the internet and you cannot know where I am getting them. Maybe we all get them from the same sites who knows.
 

The images of the logos can be found everywhere, so everyone can steal them and feel free to use them however they want. If someone copies and steals an image from me, I cannot accuse him because I was the first to do the same thing from a site, precisely because they are available to everyone and everyone can use them and no one violates any rights. If 20 people post the photo of the manchester united logo in 20 different packages, who can accuse who of stealing it if the team is the same for everyone?

 

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By AndreaSSL1900 23 August 2021 - 21:53 PM UTC 

Exactly i'm trying to help. The research for italian logos from 1 to 7th tiers is all mine and i think all logopack MUST HAVE the same ammount of logos to be must complete as possible and don't care where and it doesn't matter where the photos come from because anyone can find them on the internet in the official sites of the teams or specialized sites, so anyone is free to post the same photos wherever they want if they think they are useful to complete a pack that he uses rather than another. If i want use Steel Logos pack instead of Metallic Logos and i I want this package to reach or exceed the number of logos present in the Metallic Logos, because I cannot do it and I cannot provide the same logos, which I repeat everyone can find? You can find them, i can find them, everyone can find them.
In my opinion it is ridiculous that a pack of logos has far fewer logos than another and it is right to use any way you see fit to provide logos to complete a pack, even "stealing" them which is what you accuse me of and which in reality is not as the images of the logos can be found anywhere on the internet and you cannot know where I am getting them. Maybe we all get them from the same sites who knows

 

I'm sure that @Qvordrup is not claiming you have stolen anything mate. I can't speak for anyone but the issue I can see is not giving people credit for the contributions they make in creating content or researching for others to create. As I've said in the past on numerous occasions, I'm very thankful to you and all the other researchers that have helped me create content over the years. I always give credit to those who contribute even one logo to any pack and will continue to do so in this project and others.

 

I would suggest simply declaring who created the particular content so credit can be given to all.

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By Derek 23 August 2021 - 22:12 PM UTC 

I'm sure that @Qvordrup is not claiming you have stolen anything mate. I can't speak for anyone but the issue I can see is not giving people credit for the contributions they make in creating content or researching for others to create. As I've said in the past on numerous occasions, I'm very thankful to you and all the other researchers that have helped me create content over the years. I always give credit to those who contribute even one logo to any pack and will continue to do so in this project and others.

 

I would suggest simply declaring who created the particular content so credit can be given to all.

 

I'm not agree to giving credit to someone other about the pictures he posted in another pack if i use the same photo for my pack, for the reasons i've explained.  if we all did this, we should give credits to the sites where we get them rather than to people because each of us finds them around the web being free to publish the images and not making them a commercial use since we use them to create the packs of logos and play privately without earning anything on it.

Why i have to give credit to someone, if i can find the same image by my own? you don't know if i stolen it from you and i dont have to apologize with you if i want reech or exceed the amount of your logopack using the same logos. I could use the same image than you uses, yes it could happen but the same image is avaible for everyone and sometimes is the only avaible in good quality.

The images of the logos can be found everywhere, so everyone can steal them and feel free to use them however they want. If someone copies and steals an image from me, I cannot accuse him because I was the first to do the same thing from a site, precisely because they are available to everyone and everyone can use them and no one violates any rights. If 20 people post the photo of the manchester united logo in 20 different packs, who can accuse who of stealing it if the team is the same for everyone? Who must give credits to who?

Why on earth you have to claiming copyrights violation on something when you for first don't earn anything on it? because you lost your time searching it? in my opinion is a stupid thing. No one paid you anyway, so shut up and enjoy the result of your contribute and let that other people can do the same thing and help others creators even copying them from you, we play the same game and we want all improve the game for free and have fun

Qvordrup
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By Derek 23 August 2021 - 20:48 PM UTC 

@Qvordrup 

 

Firstly, thank you for the kind words on Steel Logos.

 

I wasn’t aware that this was the case as I very rarely venture outside of my own topics. I can understand where your coming from on this and ultimately it’s a decision for you guys as staff have to make as I’m simply a contributor to this site.

 

Although I can’t speak for others, perhaps we can agree there was no malice meant in what  AndreaSSLazio1900 was doing in ‘researching’ the logos as he was ultimately trying to help.

 

Can I suggest a possible alternative which could benefit all members and creators?

 

I have in the past set up projects such as source logos on FM View which assisted creators in accessing large quantities of standard logos in the best quality available to encourage new styles and larger packs. This is something which I’m currently in the process of doing for my own site Football Manager Graphics and would be happy to share the work here.

 

I’ve been working on that project now for the past 3 months and has allowed me to improve Steel Logos and also develop three new logo megapack styles which I’ve yet to release.

 

To summarise I can open a new thread ‘Source Logos’ and upload my standard source logos for creators to download. Any member can then post missing or updated logos.

@Derek I agree with everything you written 👍 . The idea of a common logo source sound great. I Don't think anyone is stealing anything, and I don't see how you can read that in to my comment 🤷‍♂️. But I've made my point and really don't want to get drawn in to any long discussions, because in my experience it does not get you anywhere.

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By Qvordrup 24 August 2021 - 00:25 AM UTC 

@Derek I agree with everything you written 👍 . The idea of a common logo source sound great. I Don't think anyone is stealing anything, and I don't see how you can read that in to my comment 🤷‍♂️. But I've made my point and really don't want to get drawn in to any long discussions, because in my experience it does not get you anywhere.

 

Agreed 👍

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By Qvordrup 24 August 2021 - 00:25 AM UTC 

@Derek I agree with everything you written 👍 . The idea of a common logo source sound great. I Don't think anyone is stealing anything, and I don't see how you can read that in to my comment 🤷‍♂️. But I've made my point and really don't want to get drawn in to any long discussions, because in my experience it does not get you anywhere.

I've made my point too. I don't really care to be mentioned like researcher, is respectful towards the person who provided them, but for me it is much more important and gives me much more satisfaction to see that the logos I have provided are included in the pack. It would piss me off if they weren't put in the pack after the time I wasted looking for them, not if you don't quote me. This is my point of view

@Derek 

 

 

 

AndreaSSL1900
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AndreaSSL1900
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Gillingham (small change) - ID 656

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By AndreaSSL1900 22 August 2021 - 21:06 PM UTC 

Uruguay updates 

 

 

 

No team exist with ID 1226979

ID 2000009678, 2000009727, 2000010025, 2000018899, 2000019313, 2000026955, 2000030890, 2000038738  already in pack and correct.

 

@Derek 

 

 

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By AndreaSSL1900 24 August 2021 - 01:53 AM UTC 

New logo ecuadorian Ligapro serie A - ID 80000566

 

Error, the Ecuadorian league is sponsored by Betcris.

 

 

 

@Derek 

Makitos
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@AndreaSSL1900  I understand what you say and you are right, but also pay attention to what you copy or bring here because as I have remarked in previous posts what you have put is already in the pack or is wrong, it is not a matter of putting what comes out in another pack, it is a matter of seeing what we are missing in this one.

Makitos
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More logos from Asia

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By Makitos 25 August 2021 - 19:28 PM UTC 

Error, the Ecuadorian league is sponsored by Betcris.

 

 

 

@Derek 

 

On Onefootball the ecuadorian league is called in this way and not knowing that the league have changed sponsorship, i thought it was the current denomination. They have outdated infos, my bad

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By Makitos 25 August 2021 - 19:32 PM UTC 

@AndreaSSL1900  I understand what you say and you are right, but also pay attention to what you copy or bring here because as I have remarked in previous posts what you have put is already in the pack or is wrong, it is not a matter of putting what comes out in another pack, it is a matter of seeing what we are missing in this one.

 

I can give an example regarding the national cup of my country, Italy. Is not wrong give the logo with or without the sponsor, because for the duration of the competition italian FA uses sponsorless version but for the final they add a sponsor and every year is different so can't be considered a mistake

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