L55DS
11 months ago
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Is there any way to create a state date in the distant future, such as in 2025 or 2030?

 

I'm messing around with the World Cup 2026 format but simming that far takes nearly an hour each time, which makes testing much more difficult. 

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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https://sortitoutsi.net/content/53470/fm20-custom-start-date 

 

you can adapt that file

 open it in the  FM21 editor- [select the DB you want to use in game when loading]  then save and verify   then you can use in FM21 and have a 10 year start up range

 

ideal for simming to a date several years in future to test a file etc but not to start a save IMO as you wont have had any transfers happening and a player's stats will look like he has played one long season so not realistic but a great tool to check a comp like you want to

L55DS
11 months ago
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Thats awesome, very helpful, thank you!

kingrobbo
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By L55DS 06 June 2021 - 13:46 PM UTC 

Thats awesome, very helpful, thank you!

 

should be what you want😉

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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@Lugui    use the linked thread and NB use the forums to ask questions  mate

 

cheers                 

Lugui
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By kingrobbo 13 June 2021 - 20:48 PM UTC 

@Lugui    use the linked thread and NB use the forums to ask questions  mate

 

cheers                 

 

Thanks mate, appreciate redirecting me to this thread, I wasnt aware of it nor the file.

I will run some tests later this week, but I still question if by using this file to start, for example, on XX july 2021 (meaning 21-22 season is set to begin) + using an DB update for squads and promotions (already in hand, tested and validated before using customo start files) I'd still be able to start 21-22 with the fresh transfers, squads and teams in correct divisions as of now in real life. Or by using this file here the game will still sim the 2020-21 as well, making it different from what has been expected by using the updates?

Sorry if it doesnt make sense somehow, Im more that willing to discuss it if you can. Thanks once again!

 

kingrobbo
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yes you should be good

 

however clubs especially the elites will still be able to buy more players so you may need to either disable first transfer window when setting up game

or have a transfer ban in place

Lugui
9 years ago
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Great point, makes sense. I will try that and confirm here if everything went through so others can understand, if needed.

 

Once again, thank you!

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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no problems 

 

I've don this before many times with no issues if set up before hand correctly 

Lugui
9 years ago
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@kingrobbo  I was able to ajust the files, validated them on editor and they became available for FM21, as instructed.

 

Although, even with this setup unfortunately Im still struggling to get the game to understand and begin 21-22 season with the correct teams. In other words, still unable to start a save, for instance, with Norwich (or Watford/Brentford in Premier League IRL as 21-22). Same with other leagues and countries as well. 

 

As below, tried a save starting on 21/06/21 and 05/07/21 (custom file dates available). For the first date (21/06), the season hasnt been reseted yet, the game just ran a random season (20-21) and its a gamble to see if the newly promoted teams can survive through 20-21, not realistic.

 

As for the 05/07/21 test, the season does start fresh as expected for 21-22, but again, seems like the game simmed the year before it and the gamble continues, teams like Norwich survived 20-21, but others got promoted unrealistically (Blackburn, Sheffield).

 

I feel like Im missing a piece of this puzzle setup to make it possible, for instance, to begin a save in june/july 21-22 season with the current teams in their correct divisions, as in real life.

 

 

 

 

 

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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This is just a Start date mod

 

You need a mod/s for real results in various leagues to run alongside to get the right teams for 21-22 season

 

even with the real results you may not get the right play off winners eg Brentford so when I want to do a save like this[ I do not anymore] I use a start at a date at end of the championship season and use FMRTE to manipulate the play offs  to get eg Brentford to win play off

 

 

Lugui
9 years ago
1 day ago
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Got it, I read more about real results and understood how this works.

 

Unfortunately wont be something to play with, but the start date mod helped me a lot, thanks.

kingrobbo
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tubuus
7 years ago
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Can someone share a file for FM 21.4.0? 

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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I explained in first reply here what to do you have also been linked to the FAQs thread previously regarding any issues with XML files- page 2 of FAQs

tubuus
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By kingrobbo 07 September 2021 - 00:51 AM UTC 

I explained in first reply here what to do you have also been linked to the FAQs thread previously regarding any issues with XML files- page 2 of FAQs

I told you, I don't have an editor running because of Win10 problems. Black screen and then closes. Therefore, I cannot adapt the file myself. 

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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You reported issue to si /steam? 

 

As there will be fixes like verifying the integrity of the editor files etc

Mar0ney
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By kingrobbo 15 June 2021 - 19:07 PM UTC 

This is just a Start date mod

 

You need a mod/s for real results in various leagues to run alongside to get the right teams for 21-22 season

 

even with the real results you may not get the right play off winners eg Brentford so when I want to do a save like this[ I do not anymore] I use a start at a date at end of the championship season and use FMRTE to manipulate the play offs  to get eg Brentford to win play off

 

Hie kingrobbo,please assist. I'm trying to start a new game with a start date mod with real results and updated substitution rules for Enggglish Premier League. Whatever i try i can't find a way to get real results and 9 substitutions as is currently the case in English football. Is there a way around this?

wfm18
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By kingrobbo 05 June 2021 - 20:11 PM UTC 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/53470/fm20-custom-start-date 

 

you can adapt that file

 open it in the  FM21 editor- [select the DB you want to use in game when loading]  then save and verify   then you can use in FM21 and have a 10 year start up range

 

ideal for simming to a date several years in future to test a file etc but not to start a save IMO as you wont have had any transfers happening and a player's stats will look like he has played one long season so not realistic but a great tool to check a comp like you want to

 

Would this be also possible for disabling transfer windows? You can always disable the first, but also the second? That way for FM22 we can make the data update use real life transfer dates (e.g Messi playing for Barca and having a future transfer to PSG), while still starting the save with him being at PSG (since you start the save a year later).

kingrobbo
12 years ago
1 hour ago
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By Mar0ney 07 September 2021 - 19:58 PM UTC 

Hie kingrobbo,please assist. I'm trying to start a new game with a start date mod with real results and updated substitution rules for Enggglish Premier League. Whatever i try i can't find a way to get real results and 9 substitutions as is currently the case in English football. Is there a way around this?

 

yes you need to run the start date file

then create the results file in basic rules then convert to advanced rules and edit the sub rules[explained in FAQs] you might be able to edit the sub rules in basic rules but I dont use them for editing really IIRC there are less sub rules there to choose from NB you can only have 1 set of nation rules per country when trying to start a new save

kingrobbo
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By wfm18 07 September 2021 - 20:27 PM UTC 

Would this be also possible for disabling transfer windows? You can always disable the first, but also the second? That way for FM22 we can make the data update use real life transfer dates (e.g Messi playing for Barca and having a future transfer to PSG), while still starting the save with him being at PSG (since you start the save a year later).

 

yes in theory you start in july 2021 and can run a mod where transfers are set to take place in 2021 something like this https://sortitoutsi.net/content/58631/top-5-league-summer-2021-transfers 

 

but as I pointed out earlier in thread this start date mod I have used just to sim files with many changes to league structures/continental rule changes to occur in upcoming seasons , in doing so I have found it as if the game reads from 2020 on as 1 big season, eg start in 2027 it will show players as playing 250 games in a season so I dont recommend using this to start a save

wfm18
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By kingrobbo 07 September 2021 - 20:50 PM UTC 

yes in theory you start in july 2021 and can run a mod where transfers are set to take place in 2021 something like this https://sortitoutsi.net/content/58631/top-5-league-summer-2021-transfers 

 

but as I pointed out earlier in thread this start date mod I have used just to sim files with many changes to league structures/continental rule changes to occur in upcoming seasons , in doing so I have found it as if the game reads from 2020 on as 1 big season, eg start in 2027 it will show players as playing 250 games in a season so I dont recommend using this to start a save

 

That is a very interesting fmf file. I hope for FM22 we can somehow implement this into the sortitoutsi data update system, where people can choose for live transfers (e.g. player swapping clubs after the season is in FM also happening on July 2022) or immediate (July 2021) transfers.

 

I think shifting the date only one year will solve that 250 games problem right? In terms of realism I believe that is the way to go. Data update with live transfers and simulating the first season with a start date file.

kingrobbo
12 years ago
1 hour ago
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There are several issues when using a custom start date no player stats recorded / or that one big season 

 also players contacts end date moves eg a contract ending in June 21 [making a player free to sign]

if you start a game using custom date in 2021  he wont be available on a free the contract ends June 22 

 

I dont use custom start dates  due to this, just for simming  and I dont use a league structure as per default DB as my game is set up  differently so I have no need for real fixtures/ results either

Attoumane Loukmane
2 years ago
2 weeks ago
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By Lugui 15 June 2021 - 20:03 PM UTC 

Got it, I read more about real results and understood how this works.

 

Unfortunately wont be something to play with, but the start date mod helped me a lot, thanks.

Can you share you file with me please…I would like to start in August or septembre 2021 to avoid fisrt tranfert window 

kingrobbo
12 years ago
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By Attoumane Loukmane 11 October 2021 - 12:04 PM UTC 

Can you share you file with me please…I would like to start in August or septembre 2021 to avoid fisrt tranfert window 

 

Adapt the file I linked earlier in the thread

Danny Lim
3 months ago
1 week ago
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I download the custom start date from the link that in the first thread, but why I can't test the rules?

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