mons
15 years ago
1 hour ago
64,179
By phil parker2 01 January 2022 - 21:23 PM UTC 

Once you have started a game, can you still go to editor and upload into the same game u have saved?

 

You'll need the in-game editor to do that if you've started a save-game already.

phil parker2
5 months ago
1 month ago
5
Premium
By mons 01 January 2022 - 21:47 PM UTC 

You'll need the in-game editor to do that if you've started a save-game already.

 

Super. Thank you 

R Charlston
8 years ago
1 hour ago
891
Premium
By phil parker2 01 January 2022 - 21:23 PM UTC 

Once you have started a game, can you still go to editor and upload into the same game u have saved?

 

You need the in game editor

RoMbA
8 years ago
2 weeks ago
83
By phil parker2 01 January 2022 - 21:23 PM UTC 

Once you have started a game, can you still go to editor and upload into the same game u have saved?

 

If you have the in editor in game, i think that you can do that in a saved game. Without that, you must do a new save

mons
15 years ago
1 hour ago
64,179

This latest kit chat has got nothing to do with this topic. Please create a thread in the right forum and take anything further in there - I'll then move the posts there 👍

Иван Ковалев
10 months ago
1 month ago
5

Реклама на бортах работает, а вот видео борты в черном цвете (все перепробовал, ничего не помогает) возможно путь не верный к папке, подилитесь правильным путем(по умолчанию у меня - Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2022\data\simatchviewer_uncompressed\videos\hd\video_ads)

 

Advertising on the boards works, but the video boards are in black (I've tried everything, nothing helps), perhaps the path is not correct to the folder, file the correct path (by default, I have Steam \ steamapps \ common \ Football Manager 2022 \ data \ simatchviewer_uncompressed \ videos \ hd \ video_ads) 

di_Canio
9 years ago
3 weeks ago
1
Premium

Can anyone tell me which files i have to delete to set up the game made ads how they supposed to be, because i dont know which files i put in for the forbidden ones.

stevemc
11 years ago
1 month ago
87

What a shame this has been taken down, it was one of the best immersion add-ons for FM.

 

Without this, there is no immersion or distinction between competitions on match-day, no difference between a PL game or a CL final, just the same money-making ads on every game that have no relation to real life competitions - it becomes boring, monotonous and reduces longevity of playing - only way they get around this is bagging licenses for the competitions, which they won't - so the only one that suffers is the player.

 

I have a feeling that there is more to come too, can you imagine a FM vanilla game straight out the box with no logo's, kit's, backgrounds, real-name-fix, players faces etc? I wouldn't even buy the game, I'd stick with the last editable edition of FM, or return to old Champ Man games.

 

Not being funny, but I have ZERO interest playing as Man UFC in the Champions Cup against Zebra whilst playing £38 for the privilege of not being able to edit the game how I want. License it, or leave it all editable.

 

 

R Charlston
8 years ago
1 hour ago
891
Premium
By stevemc 08 January 2022 - 14:02 PM UTC 

What a shame this has been taken down, it was one of the best immersion add-ons for FM.

 

Without this, there is no immersion or distinction between competitions on match-day, no difference between a PL game or a CL final, just the same money-making ads on every game that have no relation to real life competitions - it becomes boring, monotonous and reduces longevity of playing - only way they get around this is bagging licenses for the competitions, which they won't - so the only one that suffers is the player.

 

I have a feeling that there is more to come too, can you imagine a FM vanilla game straight out the box with no logo's, kit's, backgrounds, real-name-fix, players faces etc? I wouldn't even buy the game, I'd stick with the last editable edition of FM, or return to old Champ Man games.

 

Not being funny, but I have ZERO interest playing as Man UFC in the Champions Cup against Zebra whilst playing £38 for the privilege of not being able to edit the game how I want. License it, or leave it all editable.

 

Exactly why I keep all my downloads, in annual folders, on a server-I just move them across when a new iteration is released.

 

sI will have to rewrite the code to stop them working

stevemc
11 years ago
1 month ago
87
By R Charlston 08 January 2022 - 14:34 PM UTC 

Exactly why I keep all my downloads, in annual folders, on a server-I just move them across when a new iteration is released.

 

sI will have to rewrite the code to stop them working

 

Same mate, never bin anything 😀

stevemc
11 years ago
1 month ago
87

Just to raise another point on this, what’s the difference between this and big FM YouTube accounts having their own in game advertising boards from personal sponsors plastered across multiple videos that have thousands of views. Surely that’s a big exposure/licensing problem too then with the loss of views Sega partnered brands would receive - if they make them entirely uneditable then it would be the same for those guys, presumably? You’d like to think they’ve had the same treatment from SI, so it’s fair…

 

Also, I thought the SI and Bidstack partnership contract was until FM22, so this might hint at it being extended into FM23 and beyond If they’re trying to clamp down?

dispatch
3 years ago
2 days ago
4,313
By stevemc 08 January 2022 - 14:02 PM UTC 

What a shame this has been taken down, it was one of the best immersion add-ons for FM.

 

Without this, there is no immersion or distinction between competitions on match-day, no difference between a PL game or a CL final, just the same money-making ads on every game that have no relation to real life competitions - it becomes boring, monotonous and reduces longevity of playing - only way they get around this is bagging licenses for the competitions, which they won't - so the only one that suffers is the player.

 

I have a feeling that there is more to come too, can you imagine a FM vanilla game straight out the box with no logo's, kit's, backgrounds, real-name-fix, players faces etc? I wouldn't even buy the game, I'd stick with the last editable edition of FM, or return to old Champ Man games.

 

Not being funny, but I have ZERO interest playing as Man UFC in the Champions Cup against Zebra whilst playing £38 for the privilege of not being able to edit the game how I want. License it, or leave it all editable.

 

I don't want to imagine...

fertenvillz
5 years ago
1 month ago
50

Sadly moment ..

matg56
11 years ago
1 day ago
54
Premium

Sad day for FM fans.  Money interests corrupts even football simulations

mykalbuckle
9 years ago
1 week ago
66
Premium

Is there a way to get the static adds working without the video ads? or rather which will leave the default video ads in place and working?

mykalbuckle
9 years ago
1 week ago
66
Premium

OK, no answer at all… thats grand, I understand

How do we uninstall the adboard patch instead please

bartdude
13 years ago
5 hours ago
436
Premium
By mykalbuckle 27 January 2022 - 14:58 PM UTC 

OK, no answer at all… thats grand, I understand

How do we uninstall the adboard patch instead please

The static and video adboards will continue to work. New static adboards are easy to make yourself, video adboards require a bit more skill. It's unfortunate that upgrades cannot be uploaded publicly but that's how it is in this litigation obsessed age we now live in.

 

matg56
11 years ago
1 day ago
54
Premium
By Tommy Hughes 07 December 2021 - 23:50 PM UTC 

What a friggin' nightmare. 😢

 

@rabcp The fruits of your hard work (and many other community creators like you) have given FM that added sprinkle of realism and real-life football magic that keeps me playing it year after year. At least until now.

Each time I launch the early beta without the crucial additions, I realize how empty and unrealistic the vanilla game feels. The true spirit of my beloved real-life football emerges the same time as I get to install the versatile custom-made modifications and additions.

They really bring to life the game I WANT to love, WANT to play and WANT to never get tired of. But I think I already would have a long time ago, were there no such dedicated people contributing, creating and setting their brilliance loose on the skeletal frame of the game to add the meat that makes it more authentic and life-like.

 

My interpretation of what's happened:

SI have agreed new commercial deals with advertisers. They've agreed to have a set degree of visibility guaranteed for the advertisers.

To ensure that visibility to their adverts, SI have decided to take down custom adboards and force their set adboards in their place.

 

To those who defend SI and say they have no choice, it's the advertisers who require the specific visibility: wake up.

SI has sold advert space in your game and mine. They've chosen the greedy route and placed our virtual football simulation experience for sale. They've agreed to have adverts to be forced on us and data collected about our decision to click or not click the links on those adboards that lead to the corresponding web sites of said advertisers.

 

I'm upset. And the way I see it, this is on SI. They wanted to monetize the match engine one step further this year. What's next? No custom 3D kits? Will those be sold as DLC? One thing the game industry has proven time and time again is that its greed has no boundaries. However, individual companies can choose their way. It'll be interested which way SI are heading. That will effect my future decisions on whether to support and buy FM or not. (And whether it'll appeal to me anymore or not.)

The ability to customise - and thus make FM more realistc - has been the crucial factor behind my buying each FM game for years and years now.

 

I've bought Football Manager (or Championship Manager) since the 99-00 iteration, with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 games. If I end up getting off the train in the near future, I will be very sad about it. It will feel like losing a connection to my youth and the very core of my seemingly endless love for football.

 

 

mykalbuckle
9 years ago
1 week ago
66
Premium
By bartdude 27 January 2022 - 16:04 PM UTC 

The static and video adboards will continue to work. New static adboards are easy to make yourself, video adboards require a bit more skill. It's unfortunate that upgrades cannot be uploaded publicly but that's how it is in this litigation obsessed age we now live in.

 

I have actually been making my own video adboards for a long time that go along side Rabcp's, that isnt the issue, rather they dont work, they used too, but not anymore, they just stopped and all video ads are black. Probs my own fault for having auto updates on within steam, but no matter, I gutted the code, removed all references to video adboards and kept just the static ads, now I've the original video ads working and all my custom statics in place too, a days work but worth it 🙂 

bartdude
13 years ago
5 hours ago
436
Premium
By mykalbuckle 28 January 2022 - 13:55 PM UTC 

I have actually been making my own video adboards for a long time that go along side Rabcp's, that isnt the issue, rather they dont work, they used too, but not anymore, they just stopped and all video ads are black. Probs my own fault for having auto updates on within steam, but no matter, I gutted the code, removed all references to video adboards and kept just the static ads, now I've the original video ads working and all my custom statics in place too, a days work but worth it 🙂 

I haven't had a problem because I've been using a different config file. As I said, making new static boards is a doddle but I need to get a grip on making video boards.

 

 

stevemc
11 years ago
1 month ago
87

I've just tested and custom Adboards still work for me, nothing has changed, I know people are reporting getting all black adboards but surely that is down to them not being installed correctly? There's been no official game update/patch via Steam yet, if they don't work after the January update then they'll have added something in to nerf them completely.

 

When all this Bidstack stuff started a few years ago, I just used to turn the WiFi access off on my MacBook and put Steam in offline mode when playing FM and that used to stop the targeted ads appearing around the pitch, not sure if it still works but used to.

 

My final idea for future FM's if these don't work are to use the editor to remove all video ads from competitions/stadiums (it's just a tick box) and just have them all set to static, then just make my own static ads.

Dr. Dazzle
14 years ago
3 weeks ago
60
Premium
By bartdude 28 January 2022 - 22:15 PM UTC 

I haven't had a problem because I've been using a different config file. As I said, making new static boards is a doddle but I need to get a grip on making video boards.

 

Any chance you could PM your file to me?

Dr. Dazzle
14 years ago
3 weeks ago
60
Premium
By stevemc 30 January 2022 - 19:33 PM UTC 

I've just tested and custom Adboards still work for me, nothing has changed, I know people are reporting getting all black adboards but surely that is down to them not being installed correctly? There's been no official game update/patch via Steam yet, if they don't work after the January update then they'll have added something in to nerf them completely.

 

When all this Bidstack stuff started a few years ago, I just used to turn the WiFi access off on my MacBook and put Steam in offline mode when playing FM and that used to stop the targeted ads appearing around the pitch, not sure if it still works but used to.

 

My final idea for future FM's if these don't work are to use the editor to remove all video ads from competitions/stadiums (it's just a tick box) and just have them all set to static, then just make my own static ads.

 

Where is the tickbox to remove the video ads?

bartdude
13 years ago
5 hours ago
436
Premium
By Dr. Dazzle 09 March 2022 - 04:57 AM UTC 

Any chance you could PM your file to me?

Sorry but my config is very different and and not based on the recent Adboard Patch but a much earlier collaboration from Rabcp and others. It requires all the altered adboards, so it's not just about the config file, it's a large & personalised package which I've never shared and I'm not prepared to risk it ending up in the public domain since recent events regarding Si and I owe that protection to the original publishers.  

 

cookamunga
1 year ago
1 month ago
5
Premium

No point in paying for my sortitoutsi account then. Short sighted decision by both parties.

mons
15 years ago
1 hour ago
64,179
By cookamunga 14 March 2022 - 23:49 PM UTC 

No point in paying for my sortitoutsi account then. Short sighted decision by both parties.

 

There are many, many files you can still download from this site, you know. It's just the adboard file which cannot be hosted on sortitoutsi.

 

Of course you're free not to renew your premium account, but it's important to be clear that this isn't something which should be laid at our feet. “Both parties” implies we had a say in the matter whereas it was very much a decision forced on the site.

cookamunga
1 year ago
1 month ago
5
Premium
By mons 15 March 2022 - 07:53 AM UTC 

There are many, many files you can still download from this site, you know. It's just the adboard file which cannot be hosted on sortitoutsi.

 

Of course you're free not to renew your premium account, but it's important to be clear that this isn't something which should be laid at our feet. “Both parties” implies we had a say in the matter whereas it was very much a decision forced on the site.

 

I agree there's still a lot of convenience in using this site, but it feels super hypocritical of you guys to take down a mod just because SI is the one to tell you. What about all the kit mods that clearly infringe copyright, will you remove them as well?

 

Monetized ads in games that you already paid for is ridiculous and you are making the world worse.

mons
15 years ago
1 hour ago
64,179
By cookamunga 15 March 2022 - 14:51 PM UTC 

I agree there's still a lot of convenience in using this site, but it feels super hypocritical of you guys to take down a mod just because SI is the one to tell you. What about all the kit mods that clearly infringe copyright, will you remove them as well?

 

Monetized ads in games that you already paid for is ridiculous and you are making the world worse.

 

You would do well to understand the meaning of the word “hypocritical”, and understand how wrong it is that you apply it to this site in this context. 

 

You would also do well to understand that there is little upside from our end to antagonising Sports Interactive. As stated here, it is they who specifically asked for this file to be deleted. We can't really get into the specifics; it's why I haven't really commented on this before. This is a small fan-site and all we want to do is help the FM community mod the game and share their experiences, but not at any and all cost. After all, if the site gets closed down, nobody gains, do they?

 

Moreover, I'm not sure what relation there is between this site and “monetized ads in games that you already paid for.” That's something you might want to take up with the game developers and publishers (Sports Interactive and Sega), which sortitoutsi has got nothing at all to do with.

 

I'd also love to know your reasoning as to why you think we are purportedly “making the world worse.” Current events being what they are, I think you're overreacting ever so slightly and would go as far to say that it is you who is being hypocritical here, frankly. Get a grip!

 

I personally take great offence at ill-informed users like you accusing file creators on this site of all sort of nonsense like this. I for one take up loads of my own free time to produce files for the community to download for free, and to help out whenever I can, and I'm far from alone in this. Criticism I can take and civil disagreements and constructive criticism are welcome and can only spur improvements, but to be accused of “making the world worse” or other similar bilge for a decision not taken unilaterally by us is something which leaves me scratching my head in bafflement.

R Charlston
8 years ago
1 hour ago
891
Premium
By mons 15 March 2022 - 15:25 PM UTC 

You would do well to understand the meaning of the word “hypocritical”, and understand how wrong it is that you apply it to this site in this context. 

 

You would also do well to understand that there is little upside from our end to antagonising Sports Interactive. As stated here, it is they who specifically asked for this file to be deleted. We can't really get into the specifics; it's why I haven't really commented on this before. This is a small fan-site and all we want to do is help the FM community mod the game and share their experiences, but not at any and all cost. After all, if the site gets closed down, nobody gains, do they?

 

Moreover, I'm not sure what relation there is between this site and “monetized ads in games that you already paid for.” That's something you might want to take up with the game developers and publishers (Sports Interactive and Sega), which sortitoutsi has got nothing at all to do with.

 

I'd also love to know your reasoning as to why you think we are purportedly “making the world worse.” Current events being what they are, I think you're overreacting ever so slightly and would go as far to say that it is you who is being hypocritical here, frankly. Get a grip!

 

I personally take great offence at ill-informed users like you accusing file creators on this site of all sort of nonsense like this. I for one take up loads of my own free time to produce files for the community to download for free, and to help out whenever I can, and I'm far from alone in this. Criticism I can take and civil disagreements and constructive criticism are welcome and can only spur improvements, but to be accused of “making the world worse” or other similar bilge for a decision not taken unilaterally by us is something which leaves me scratching my head in bafflement.

 

bravo Mons, well said

cookamunga
1 year ago
1 month ago
5
Premium
By mons 15 March 2022 - 15:25 PM UTC 

You would do well to understand the meaning of the word “hypocritical”, and understand how wrong it is that you apply it to this site in this context. 

 

You would also do well to understand that there is little upside from our end to antagonising Sports Interactive. As stated here, it is they who specifically asked for this file to be deleted. We can't really get into the specifics; it's why I haven't really commented on this before. This is a small fan-site and all we want to do is help the FM community mod the game and share their experiences, but not at any and all cost. After all, if the site gets closed down, nobody gains, do they?

 

You are violating copyright on a daily basis on this site (it gets especially spicy when you charge people real money). If people wanted to shut this site down they would have done so a long time ago.

 

Let's take a step back and remind ourselves why Sports Interactive asked you to delete this mod. It's because they are selling monetized ads in Football Manager 2022, a game we already paid for. If you remove those ads, they lose impressions and therefore money. While Miles is a great guy, I'd like to point out that Sports Interactive Limited is owned by a giant corporation.

 

Just don't pretend like there's some greater picture that I'm not seeing, this issue isn't that complicated. A company wants money, 3rd party modification gets in the way of their bottom line, people who host said 3rd party mod get bullied. You see this thing happen all the time elsewhere but I didn't expect SI to stoop to this level.

 

P.S. Sorry for the slow reply, I was enjoying a few seasons with 1860 Munich with the real-life adboard patch which is still available on other sites. It was quite immersive!

 

P.PS. I stand by my statement that you are making the world worse if you support monetized ads in finished, single player products. Not sure why you bring up “current events”, obviously the world is f*** up and there are more important things than a Football Manager 2022 mod being removed from this site lmao. This forum is specifically about FM. Having said that, Slava Ukraini.

This post has been locked, preventing new comments.