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That won't be anything to do with the data update.

Did you ever install any of the files from https://fmtweak.com/ or https://fmmatchlab.co.uk/ ? They released training mods which might be affecting it.

Deleting duplicates as there are a lot of wonder kids added to this file that have also been added with the update so would be good to be able to delete them myself.

For what it’s worth, that is a fairly transactional position in the sense that after the official update, there is always a need for us to do some de-duplicating. I suspect the point at which you last downloaded the update, there was still some work to do in terms of de-duping.

We think we have now done that - but if there are any that still exist if you can let us know via a forum post who those duplicates are we can take care of them once and for all.

I would recommend you get the latest version of the Data Update and check again as they may be resolved since your original post. To be clear: there’s no intention to leave duplicates in the Data Update but it can sometimes take some time/effort to identify them all. The automated tools the site uses catch many, but not all. But if we fix it centrally then you and the entire community benefit - hence I don’t recommend anyone spending time individually making corrections locally.

Just to confirm are you seeing this problem in the pre game editor only or when playing the actual game?

It was showing in both the last I checked about a week or so ago. I manually changed the recognised names. I can check again later today if that helps? 

There are some issues wit hthe director of football roles showing as director on fm24 (gone back from fm26) ingame and the editor file. I think you'r  already aware though from a previous thread ive seen. 

For what it's worth, I'm just having a look through on FM26 and I am seeing all of the Set-Piece Coaches in their correct roles. I've just checked a handful that are in the Premier League. I checked examples such as Nicolas Jover (UID: 48030808) and Austin MacPhee (61063004).

With respect to the Director of Football roles in FM24 - I can confirm that all of those show as, simply, Director roles. I checked examples such as Hugo Viana (727976), Andrea Berta (1410276) and Tony Khan (29183227).

I did note that Tiago Pinto (90077921) had the role of Director of Football in FM24, but this appears to be courtesy of a submission made through the site.

I will download the latest FM26 update later today and feedback what its showing for me. 

I will do the same with FM24 also. So the DOF roles have be set to now be showing as Director roles only aside from the manually submitted ones? 

Thanks

I'm not too sure at this stage - and I know this is something that @Footygamer will be looking into, as well, so I don't want to advise any action to be taken at this stage.

From my quick observation, it appears that they show as ‘Director’ on the site data and, in-game in FM24, this results in them being set as the corresponding ‘Director’ role. When a submission is made to set them as ‘Director of Football’, this appears to then set them to the corresponding ‘Director of Football’ role in-game in FM24…that is, everything matches.

It also appears that for someone set as ‘Director of Football’ on the site (e.g. Tiago Pinto), in-game in FM26 they continue to be a ‘Director of Football’ (i.e. nothing breaks). However, interestingly, I could also see (in-game in FM26) the likes of Hugo Viana and Andrea Berta as ‘Director of Football’ roles (despite the data on the site showing them simply as a ‘Director’ role). It is this last bit that makes me hesitant to advise anyone going out of their way to make submissions, as it may be something that needs adjustment centrally to make things easier. I also know SI updates and changes have muddied the waters and caused this to flip-flop over recent months.

No Problem, thanks for the info 🙂 

Could somebody please have a look at Igor Tudor & Ivan Javorcic when possible as they have reappeared back at Tottenham and Roberto De Zerbi has been removed.

Ive resubmitted them on the data update and all seems okay now. Not sure why the data was reversed initially, maybe something to have a look at incase there are others. 

@Footygamer 

Ive downloaded the no date change update for FM24 and it says last updated 20 40pm but it was actually last updated at 19 10 (Contracts), 19 40 (New People) & 19 08 (Attributes). 

Is that purposely done or is it an error? 

Thanks

So I'm a premium member, have paid for the data update previously and now can't download it without paying again?

Both the Premium Membership and the Data Update (which are two separate products) operate on an annual subscription basis. In each case, when subscribing, they are billed as a single payment at the time of activating it and that then provides access for the following 12 months.

You can see the details of what each of them is and the status on your account of your membership to either/both via https://sortitoutsi.net/shop.

Looking at your account, I can see that your Data Update subscription expired in early March 2026, which is why you're being prompted for a renewed payment in order to access the paid version.

Just for clarity - if you don't wish to avail of the paid version, that is absolutely fine: you will find links to the free version down towards the bottom of the page (where you're being prompted for payment).

Hello, I got the Enhanced Football Manager Data Update yesterday and wanted to start a save with Hannover 96 today. I realized that some PA's and Player positioned seemed outdated so I went to the Team on this website to submit a PA change. But there everything seemed fine, for example Bastian Allgeier is listed as a centreback and right back and Kolja Oudenne is also listed as a Wing Back. These changes don't seem to be in my data base update though.

I appreciate the interface of data on the website vs. what will exist in-game, especially for those still playing FM24, can be a bit tricky to navigate.

Essentially, when you search for a player, what you're seeing in most places on the site is the details of that player in FM26. This includes the ‘Data Update Data’ that you would see on this page, as an example: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/2000108787.

I do also agree it can be a bit tricky to know what CA/PA a player originally had in the FM24 Data Update - because what you'll see in the ‘Original Data’ is now FM26. Unfortunately, where we are managing updates for multiple versions of the game, it's quite tricky to display everything and, ultimately, it makes sense to show the data from the latest game at this stage.

Now, many of the details are also transposed into the FM24 Data Update, but not all of them. For example, the CA/PA (which are based on the Attribute Submissions you see on their main profile) are included, as are - of course - all of the details around contracted club and so on. A good example of something that isn't updated are player positions. There is no method available for the community to make submissions to change player positions at this time.

In the case of a player who has a different set of positions in FM26 and FM24, that can get a bit confusing. The right place to see a player's listed positions (from the link I sent earlier, to use that same example player) for FM24 is via Game Guides → FM24 Update, which takes you to the following page: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2025/person/2000108787/kolja-oudenne

This is where you'll see the positions that player can play in FM24.

If you want a very straightforward/shortened version of the above: unfortunately, player positions will be the same as they were in FM24, even in the FM24 Data Update. CA/PA, however, is adjusted and this is done by community submissions and I would encourage you (and all others) to make those submissions, irrespective of whether you play FM24 or FM26 with our Data Update. The more submissions, the more reflective of community opinion the data ends up being.

ok thank you so how can i do these submissions specifically for fm24 for example?

You can’t make CA/PA submissions for a specific game. Both updates leverage the same data; so you’d just make the submission and, when approved, it’ll feed the FM24 and FM26 Data Update equally.

The starting point for making those submissions is here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes. In reality what you will do is browse to a club and then from that club’s page there is a list of players and the ability to enter CA/PA values. Please enter absolute values, rather than indicating the amount you wish to change it by (i.e. don’t enter ‘-2’ if you think the value should be two points lower).

As mentioned, there’s no method to make a submission related to player positions.

The change of all director of footballs to director is causing issues in-game (FM24) as every club now has a DOF vacancy and are all recruiting at the same time!

There are so many submissions missing that were submitted and confirmed throughou April but have been reversed for some reason. I'm resubmitting the ones im coming across but there are too many to list. Alot of my most recent submissions are re-submissions that have been reversed and wiped! FM24

@Bryan Cheetham  Can you give example rather than just saying “so many” otherwise I don't know what you're talking about?

It's not clear if you're saying they've been deleted, disabled, or still enabled but just not appearing as updated in the update. These are all very important differences.

There's probably (depending on what's actually happening) no point resubmitting them

I had a look at some of your recent ones but can't spot the problem.

I'm going to run a script that reapplies every submission, maybe that will fix things but i've no idea until I understand what you're actually reporting.

In regards this i'm not 100% sure what the problem is and haven't had the time to investigate.

In order to fix it I need clear examples giving exact ID's.

e.g.

Person X with ID 123 is being given job with id 456 in FM24 this is coming out as Director Of Football in FM26 this is coming out as Director.

Something like that.

Or if that's not the problem I need a much clearer description of what the actual problem is.

Sorry I didn't see this report with actual examples.

It's very hard to debug if they're being manually fixed. I've run the script to fix these but i'm not sure what to check now to confirm since they're all being manually being fixed with multiple submissions.

Ideally if a problem is reported people would leave at least one example so I can investigate, if its fixed manually then it destroys the evidence of the previous wrong state so I can't really investigate.

If you are aware of any others that were wrong before please let me know so I can check if they're right now.

I've done a quick check and compared things to what the in-game data is showing (based on the latest version of the FM24 Data Update).

As best I can tell, it appears that in the profiles section of (some?) individuals, on the site, the ‘Data Update Data’ isn't reflecting what should appear based on approved submissions. The same position as it shows in the ‘Data Update Data’ is what is reflected in-game / when looking at the files in the PGE.

For example, Marco Rose (https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/3601220) shows up on the website as being a Free Agent and there is no mention of his Future Transfer in the ‘Data Update Data’. If you look at the submissions, you can see there's an approved submission setting up his future transfer.

Looking at the file in the PGE, there is no trace of his Future Transfer and he simply shows as a Free Agent.

I think the script has done the trick (at least on the visible site data). The two examples I had to hand - one was Marco Rose and the other was Tommy Warrilow, as reported in the Staff Forum - both now appear correct…that is, the ‘Data Update Data’ now reflects the latest submissions. Haven’t checked the data in the downloaded update itself at this stage.

Here are a couple of examples: All FM24 so cant speak for FM26

Marco Rose (3601220) - Future role at Bournemouth - Showing enabled but not showing ingame or on the pre game editor file. 

Jan Westerhof (51041257) - Submitted as HOYD at Celta Vigo and showing enabled but not showing ingame or on the pre game editor.

James Tavernier (28016194) Submitted to leave at end of contract - shows enabled but not showing ingame or on pre game editor file.

Literally all of my submissions in April up to James Tavernier are not showing as working ingame or on the editor file. The submissions after that are resubmissions of other peoples changes that were not working or new submissions by me.

Ive just checked again after you running a script but its not fixed the issue.

This is FM24 so cant speak for FM26 but literally every DOF now shows as a director aside from any manual submissions that have been made recently.

After downloading the latest enhanced data update in FM26, i tired playing the Japanese League. Howevver, i found that the transfers in the J league have not been update in the game. which doesn't match the database on the website. What should i do? thank you!

I'm pretty sure these were fixed on April 26th, are you 100% sure they're still happening?

Sorry for the slow reply I went on holiday for a week.

No problem. 

Just downloaded latest update and check my 3 examples from above. Seems to be fixed now. Ive come away from FM24 again though as too many data issues (I was using the no date changes file, so its possibly to do with that), either way im going to persevere with FM26 as there seems to be less issues with that 😀 

@Bryan Cheetham what issues are you having with the no dates file? I am not aware of anyone reporting any.