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Realistic USA file down to USL2. Includes USLC, USL1, NISA, and MLS Next Pro. Added graphics, rivalries, histories, etc (help is welcome).
Also see the Canadian Championship fix.
Graphics here. Leagues Cup file here (adds extra spot for San Diego FC from 2024).
More discussion here. Get CONCACAF teams in the Copa Libertadores here. TMC Megapack here. Thanks to Gum at the SI Games forum for work on stadiums and affiliations. Also see the transfer file and details.
If anyone has insight into unpublished stuff like USL roster rules and info, PLEASE let me know here or at the SI Games forums and we can make it even more realistic.
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blackwell100
That's super fair. The Rhode Island one looks to be almost completed in reality
Azrael
Have you ever planned to go down to NISA and even deeper into the soccer structure in the USA (I mean, USA Club Soccer, for example)?
The Modelcitizen
NISA is in there. You might mean NPSL. Honestly, at such a low level the stats are so low and the AI coaches act weird so it's almost meaningless to play, other than to get to play with your local team. Plus, enabling all those extra teams means they drop and sign players way too frequently, including raiding USL2 teams for talent and messing up the quality the game has sort of intended to go through the USL2 to MLS draft pipeline (bad enough seeing NISA, USL1, and USLC teams raid the USL2 rosters). They also produce useless youth intakes themselves and slow your game down.
Same with the amateur leagues. For now I just have a couple of the amateur cups with NPSL teams so they get some occasional morale boosts when not getting hammered in the US Open Cup every year, and for amateur teams so they get cup games in their stats and you can scout them if they have any actual players. They keep getting imaginary league games in their stats as a result of the division being inactive. Same applies to MLS NEXT players, they seem to develop fine with the league season remaining inactive (can't replicate the fall to spring season here anyway) but having a bunch of cups to play in and for you to scout (MLS NEXT Flex, Fest, Cup)
Azrael
Hi! May I ask what was changed in this new update? :-)
blackwell100
Players keep asking for non promotion release clauses in contracts. I don't know if this will trigger in a league without promotions. Maybe you have more experience with it and understand better. I've been removing them using the in-game editor but maybe you'd have some insight TMC. Do you need help with anything with the database?
The Modelcitizen
Is there an option in the editor to preclude that? I thought I tried all the different ways to tell the game that there's no promotion, but it's like the game's contract negotiation AI just can't grasp that there are lower divisions that don't involve that possibility. I don't believe it will ever be activated in-game, but yeah it's not ideal and I'd like to remove it entirely. In the meantime, just think of it as a way to get a leg up in negotiations
The Modelcitizen
Cleaned up some NISA scheduling, added some attendance figures for some NPSL teams (for their cup games at home), made it so NYC play a few home games at Citi Field in 2023 like IRL. Really minor stuff like that. Trying to do one now where one of the LA derbies last year is played at the Rose Bowl but counts as a home game for one of them
The Modelcitizen
Check out the optional transfer file in the OP, this is not entirely realistic but sets a transfer embargo for the D2 and D3 teams until after the first MLS draft - this means they won't poach the best USL2 and MLS NEXT talent, at least until after the first season, meaning the first draft class isn't as useless as it is when they get a hold of it. The vast majority of the affected teams have a deep enough roster to handle it, and by the second season, they should have a slightly more settled roster including with free agents from January 2024 so they don't poach young talent as hard (not sure there's a way to just block them from signing D4 or lower players)
The Modelcitizen
Updated with some rivalry info tweaks based on recent surveys that were done for D2 and D3 teams.
Also made MLSNP scheduling and playoffs for 2024 and onward largely accurate (except no “pick your opponent" for the top playoff seeds like they have IRL), plus more accurate US Open Cup qualifying from USL2. Some stadium info etc adjusted as well.
Bobby Bronson
is this also available for FM19?
🙃
The Modelcitizen
No but FM24 is cheap now, alternately you can try this one
The Modelcitizen
Added San Diego FC from the first season (6 players signed so far, so a chance to mostly build your own team with MLS' transfer rules).
Get the graphics again, or at least the San Diego FC folder in there, along with my Leagues Cup file (backup) which can accommodate the extra spot (see screenshot)
Azrael
Hi! May the Leagues Cup file be used independently or it's meant solely to be used with your USA pyramid database?
The Modelcitizen
It's flexible and can be used with or without the extra team! So with or without my expansion. In that case it would just help with some of the hosting and prize money to make it more realistic. Thanks for checking in
Nicolas Sebastiani
Why does San Diego start with 0 general allocation money and 0 Objetives money? i cant sign or trade any MLS players at all
The Modelcitizen
Oh sh*t, for real? Have you checked the box to not allow the first transfer window? And started in early 2023 obviously? It was working when I tested it, but might need another look
The Modelcitizen
Working fine for me - can you describe your setup in terms of start date, any unrelated transfer files etc you're running? Wonder if there's another DB that's causing a conflict
Nicolas Sebastiani
Sorry i didnt ticked the trasfer window ban for the first season + i have FM scout 24/25 season update besides this one
The Modelcitizen
The first window transfer ban might be causing it - normally it's good for MLS but since SD need players it might be better to allow that window
The Modelcitizen
Actually I can see they still have $0 GAM if you start in Feb '23. You can still trade picks etc. Will see if I can give them a transfer budget too
andrewprice2021
quick question why is there a need of constant update to this database everyday i see it being updated im just curious
The Modelcitizen
There's no need, you don't need to start a new game or anything. If I notice something like a team moving to a new stadium, San Diego signing people, a competition's rules being announced, etc, I'll add it. Just general QOL updates when I'm bored at my computer.
I figure people will be starting a few new games between now and March 2025 so might as well keep it up to date
xythos46
Howdy, just curious if this has promotion / relegation? Having a hard time finding a good pro/rel database this year. Your database looks like the most accurate representation of the lower leagues.
The Modelcitizen
It would be a lot of work for sure, I might consider releasing a version like that at some point. My next big project might be switching MLS to a fall/spring season first though
The Modelcitizen
Updating the file so that San Diego join in 2024 and get the expansion draft in December 2023, although you can't add yourself as their manager until Jan. 1, 2024 so you have to leave the expansion draft to the AI. This way you can click the box to stop the first transfer window at game start, which I always use in North America as it delays the AI coaches from messing up their roster compliance for at least a few more months