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FM25 Revised Release Timeline

We previously stated that we would be confirming FM25’s release date at the beginning of September (with pre-orders starting at the same time), closely followed by our gameplay rollout period. 

 

Firstly, we've had to shift the official announcement of FM25 to the end of September. The gameplay focus period will follow soon thereafter. Our target launch date has moved accordingly and is now scheduled for late November, rather than our usual early November slot.

 

The FM25 development cycle has been challenging for the whole team. We knew that moving the entire game to the Unity engine was going to be a complex endeavour. As we’ve gotten deeper into the process and gained learnings, it’s fair to say it’s been trickier than we originally anticipated. The entire dev team has been challenged in a myriad of new ways and are doing an incredible job in the process. I’m excited to eventually share our hard work with you but we need a little more time before we can do that. 

 

As I outlined in June’s blog, we’ve consistently held ourselves accountable to the same three core questions:

  • Would we do it in the same way if we had our time again?
  • Would we have done this at all?
  • Do we have the time required to do this to the highest possible standard, in our first cycle of a new era?

 

International Management Removed

The challenges we’ve encountered in the development process over the last couple of months have led us to make another difficult decision around game content: international management will not be a playable mode in FM25, FM25 Console or FM25 Touch. 

 

Coming off the back of a summer of tournament football and with this week even being an international break, we’ve looked really hard at international management in FM and determined that what we were planning to deliver wouldn’t reach our initial quality threshold. 

 

We also considered the available game data. Only 5.6% of all FM24 PC saves have used the mode, which we feel validates our view that we need to do much, much better with the experience. That number is even smaller on Console. 

 

So, rather than delay FM25 even further, we’ve paused work on that area of the game and allocated those resources to other key areas. It will continue to exist in FM25, FM25 Console and FM25 Touch as part of the wider simulation of world football, it just won’t be playable. 

 

However, international management will remain playable in FM25 Mobile as that’s on a different development track and codebase. For all other versions, international management will return in a much more feature-rich way to FM26, FM26 Console and FM26 Touch in what will be an exciting year for international football with the World Cup expanding to 48 teams. To be clear, this will return as part of the base game and not as any form of additional downloadable content. 

 

While difficult, these decisions are made for the good of the game and the majority of our players. We are determined to ensure that FM25, the first game in a new engine, is as good as it can be in the time we have. By pushing back FM25’s release date, we’ve given ourselves a few extra weeks of development time to try to deliver the best experience that we can for this first in the new era of Football Manager releases. 

 

Testing Also Delayed

We also announced in June that we would be welcoming FMFC members within a reasonable travel vicinity to come to our campus in London and help with playtesting the new UI/UX of FM25. We received an enormous response to that, and I want to thank everyone who has volunteered and given us their availability. The playtesting will still be going ahead but as a result of the above milestones moving, the start date is shifting slightly. FMFC members who have applied will be contacted shortly with further date options as we begin to finalise the process.

 

This should be my last development update until we start focusing more on what’s in FM25. We have lots of good stuff to show you that we’re excited about but I want to re-iterate that FM25 is the first instalment in a new era for the game, one that will give us a lot more possibilities than we had with the previous chapter.

 

FM25 is just the starting point for what is a very exciting, long-term project.

 

Thanks for reading.

Cheers, 

Miles Jacobson

Comments
kingrobbo
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SI said in an interview on radio a few years ago[possibly 10] and I am paraphrasing that he envisaged a match engine like the FIFA game franchise or better in a couple of years…..lol

 

The bottom line is they didnt deliver that, the game is bugged on release every year and we are not talking little things[check the bug report forums]

and now features are being shelved so the product will be worse IMO, there may be a slight upgrade on the match engine so what, if I wanted that I would use the FIFA product its a management game 

 

I see issues with the graphics some features being locked -skins and other Mods

 

There will be hoopla and fanfare when it is announced and positive feedback/reviews too- ‘The best ever version’ said a fanboy account !

 

kingrobbo
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By Footygamer 06 September 2024 - 11:47 AM UTC 

I'll be shocked if the editor is in day one.

 

That will 100% be something they think they can go live without and add in December or January or something at best.

 

Or possibly the editor will just be exactly the same using the old engine. If the database is the same format that should be possible.

 

Then again, presumably they'd have to update the editor to handle women's football so maybe i'm wrong and that's not possible.

 

If that isnt going to happen they have to say as there is a large editing community that would not buy the product due to this

Frankly it should be fully beta tested prior to release, and come out with the Beta option of the game

 

I cant see there being much change to the editor but I could see limitations to how we use files and share them. I can see certain things being locked to editing easily done by SI and I am surprised it hasnt happened before.

Joe5p
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By Footygamer 07 September 2024 - 06:51 AM UTC 

Calling it game over seems a bit much. That didn't happen with CM4, CM4 was the fastest selling pc game in history when it was finally released in March. In theory the same could happen again if it's delayed a similar amount of time.

 

I don't think they can afford to ditch FM25 completely even if it does wind up in March, they'll need the money, you can't just lose a years worth of income. Even over a 10 year period that would still be a 10% hole in the books.

Yes, I was probably exaggerating, but they will take a hit, especially on PC. PC version for many is all about modding, even to a small degree. Console and mobile will be fine, because those players play knowing it will be limited mod wise. It all depends on how far behind they are and what kind of game they could produce. With features falling out regularly, and very little to go on in terms of what is new, they could end up in a catch 22 because if they release a really poor game, people will just stick to FM24 for a few years until it is sorted. 

 

maestrokiwi
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After this single update alone, I and many others just removed FM25 from the shopping list..

DNA1980
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By Steven012 05 September 2024 - 13:25 PM UTC 

This is total horseshit. I thought the point of FM24 seeing little to no improvement was so they could put all their time and effort into FM25 etc, then you read BS like this and it's all backwards steps. Beyond that, you know what percentage of people will engage in Women's Football? Almost literally 0%! Gotta be woke though in pusuit of that mystcal female FM player that simply doesn't exist, or appease a handful of limp-wristed beta male feminists, and screw over the fans you've already got! 

 

Also, waffling about the Dev team struggling etc doesn't wash at all, espcially because the majority of the people modding these games over the years could probably do a 10x better job in a 10th of the time. They make this game what it is in large part, and all of it unpaid too, volunteering their time for the love of it. Hire them! 

 

The standards of this game have consistently gotten worse and worse, year on year, and I expect this “new era” to be no different. I expect this Unity engine will be a popcorn fart full of bugs and issues, with graphics not worth writing home about. As we've seen with Fifa/EA FC, when one company knows they have the market cornered, the standards go to hell. Guess who gets the shaft? The player. Sadly, I think it's time for a new, quality rival football management sim, at least to keep SI honest if nothing else. This shit is getting to be a very familiar bad habit and I'll be voting with my wallet this year!

 

You are a fuck muppet who can't spell.

Steven012
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By DNA1980 08 September 2024 - 21:00 PM UTC 

You are a fuck muppet who can't spell.

 

Calm down love, it's not pride month!

londonstatto
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By kingrobbo 04 September 2024 - 20:38 PM UTC 

The women's DB will be in it for sure and I welcome that

 

The issue with International management no longer playable is a disgrace and the reason for stopping it utter BS

 

the issue is the there is no competitor and so SI have the market to themselves and it appears they dont really care about the loyal customers

especially us on the editing side…if testing is delayed on the game then the editor will be…. lol

 

 some people will keep buying it because there is no other option, but there will be many taking a wait and see approach this year

 

Do we know if the women's DB will be able to be completely disabled so that limited processing power isn't wasted on something that has no impact on what is to many the part of the game they care about?

 

Footygamer
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We don't know anything. But it would make sense.

kingrobbo
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By londonstatto 13 September 2024 - 16:10 PM UTC 

Do we know if the women's DB will be able to be completely disabled so that limited processing power isn't wasted on something that has no impact on what is to many the part of the game they care about?

 

Ask SI but doubt they will tell you at this stage though

 

IMO the data has been there from FM24 thats why the editor is so slow initially loading, they are able to keep certain aspects/features hidden 

kingrobbo
14 years ago
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Please keep this thread on topic

 

No more homophobic/sexist/misogynist comments, warnings have been issued if it continues bans will be too

 

@Bielsa is a Legend  your post was removed as matter has been dealt with

 

cheers

 

Bielsa is a Legend
11 years ago
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By kingrobbo 13 September 2024 - 19:20 PM UTC 

Please keep this thread on topic

 

No more homophobic/sexist/misogynist comments, warnings have been issued if it continues bans will be too

 

@Bielsa is a Legend  your post was removed as matter has been dealt with

 

cheers

 

Thanks, there is no need for homophobia on here, or in the game

Juebar
5 years ago
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OK. After several years, I probably won't get the 25th version - for the reasons already known. I still have enough fun with FM 24.

However, I am wondering where we should get the current player lists for the next seasons. Perhaps someone here has an idea or Sortitout could clarify whether there will continue to be updates to the player data for the FM24 version.

Sophie1001
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By Steven012 05 September 2024 - 13:25 PM UTC 

This is total horseshit. I thought the point of FM24 seeing little to no improvement was so they could put all their time and effort into FM25 etc, then you read BS like this and it's all backwards steps. Beyond that, you know what percentage of people will engage in Women's Football? Almost literally 0%! Gotta be woke though in pusuit of that mystcal female FM player that simply doesn't exist, or appease a handful of limp-wristed beta male feminists, and screw over the fans you've already got! 

 

Also, waffling about the Dev team struggling etc doesn't wash at all, espcially because the majority of the people modding these games over the years could probably do a 10x better job in a 10th of the time. They make this game what it is in large part, and all of it unpaid too, volunteering their time for the love of it. Hire them! 

 

The standards of this game have consistently gotten worse and worse, year on year, and I expect this “new era” to be no different. I expect this Unity engine will be a popcorn fart full of bugs and issues, with graphics not worth writing home about. As we've seen with Fifa/EA FC, when one company knows they have the market cornered, the standards go to hell. Guess who gets the shaft? The player. Sadly, I think it's time for a new, quality rival football management sim, at least to keep SI honest if nothing else. This shit is getting to be a very familiar bad habit and I'll be voting with my wallet this year!

 

I'm a female and have played CM/FM for over 10 years 🙂

Bielsa is a Legend
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By Sophie1001 20 September 2024 - 18:03 PM UTC 

I'm a female and have played CM/FM for over 10 years 🙂

 

You clearly are a threat to the likes of Steven012 

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