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SI have announced that FM25 has been delayed. This is the official statement.

 

In our last Development Update in September, we explained that we needed to push FM25’s original release back to give ourselves more time to deliver the best possible experience for this first instalment in a new era of Football Manager.

This additional time has not been sufficient to ensure the game quality and experience meets your expectations and our very high standards. 

In the previous blog we explained that it has been a difficult development cycle for the studio. Many things have been moving slower than we had predicted – despite everyone in the team working at an incredible pace to try and get everything done. 

Timelines were already tight and, as rightly pointed out by many of your recent comments, we were simply rushing too much and in danger of compromising our usual standards. This has put an enormous amount of pressure on everyone working across the studio, who are all passionately committed to delivering the best game possible. 

 

FM25 is the biggest technical and visual advancement in the series for a generation. We simply cannot compromise the delivery of this crucial juncture in Football Manager’s history by rushing to release it in November.

Of course, this is not where any of us expected to be seven weeks out from our release but, in the spirit of our studio values, we always consider the bigger picture – and the bigger picture here is that we need this additional time to deliver a game that we can all be proud of.

For the large numbers of you who have already pre-ordered the game, we thank you very much for your trust and support. Given the delay, however, should you wish to claim a refund, please contact your retailer.

Something you noted as missing from our announcement on 30 September was mention of Advanced Access on PC/Mac. We can confirm Advanced Access will be available ahead of the new release date and, when we are confident on how long that period will be, we will update you at the first opportunity. The new gameplay reveal will also now move to the end of January 2025.

 

We are intensely aware that this will be massively disappointing for you. We share that disappointment and are extremely sorry. 

Thank you for reading and your patience. It means the world to us as we continue to work on creating a new era for Football Manager.

 

Those old enough and with good enough memories will know that this has happened before 22 years ago. Last the time message from Sports Interactive read very differently “we make no apologies for the changes in dates” feels hilarious to read now.

 

Funnily enough many of the same people from this period are still there, including director Miles Jacobson.

 

So what will happen now?

 

Well last time the game was a complete bug ridden mess and we got SIX patches trying to fix it, most people will tell you it wasn't playable at all until CM03/04 came out.

 

A year later Sports Interactive split with their publisher Eidos. Could the same happen again with SEGA?

 

Who knows but I can confirm.

 

Our FM24 Data Update will continue until at least March 2025.

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CplCurmudgeon
18 years ago
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Can't wait to see the meltdown of entitlement, faux outrage, and pearl clutching over at SI Forums but have to say it's made it easier to skip this one.

 

I'm not buying a game in March that I'll lose interest in with the end of the season at start of May. Like a lot of people, my enthusiasm for football peaks when it's actually being played. So this makes life easier.

 

That said, it's a ducking computer game and I'm, not going to get my knickers all twisted in a demonstration of snowflake prepubescent teenage angst.

 

FM24 only got 452hrs compared to the usual 1000+ on account of getting boring and bloated year on year, but I'm going to have to reinstall for an FM fix this winter.

\'Appy \'Ammer
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By CplCurmudgeon 11 October 2024 - 08:39 AM UTC 

 

 

That said, it's a ducking computer game and I'm, not going to get my knickers all twisted in a demonstration of snowflake prepubescent teenage angst.

 

 

 

😀

 

FM24 for me has been nearly 1300 hours in the editor. I'm looking forward to playing the game when I'm finished!

CplCurmudgeon
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By \'Appy \'Ammer 11 October 2024 - 10:01 AM UTC 

😀

 

FM24 for me has been nearly 1300 hours in the editor. I'm looking forward to playing the game when I'm finished!

 

I've had similar years. The absence of FM25 just means a renewed determination to make FM24 more varied and interesting. I'll be back in the Editor next week given any FM fix before November 25 will be FM24 now.

HJN030
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@Footygamer  I saw the promise that attribute changes Will follow very soon. When can we expect this new feature of the FM Data Update?

Bielsa is a Legend
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I have managed to join the banned list on SI forum for calling them ”Shambles Interactive” and that the Collyers should take over from their bedroom.

 

the mods are so touchy and defensive.

 

with sufficient backing there is enough talent on this site to do an alternative game

 

time for Susie crowd funding!😂

\'Appy \'Ammer
17 years ago
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Things start to add up now, as when si released the new FM25 logo they had revised and made you agree to the new forum rules. They knew then the game was to be delayed and have anticipated the inevitable backlash by tightening the rules.

kingrobbo
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By \'Appy \'Ammer 12 October 2024 - 09:40 AM UTC 

Things start to add up now, as when si released the new FM25 logo they had revised and made you agree to the new forum rules. They knew then the game was to be delayed and have anticipated the inevitable backlash by tightening the rules.

 

don't think you are wrong there mate

 

This sums it up for me in this bug report its a disgrace, a major issue not addressed and the total ghosting is appalling -

 https://community.sports-interactive.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2024-early-access-bugs-tracker/editor/pre-game-editor/clubs-are-not-getting-relegated-from-ffp-r19450/?tab=comments#comment-140225 

Bielsa is a Legend
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We desperately need an alternative, back in the late 90s early 2000s there were several options such as fifa manager, USM etc

 

surely there is a gap in the market, as FM is just a database which SI don’t / can’t ever own

 

the match experience is crap

 

the graphics are greatly enhanced by the community

 

what exactly do SI have that can’t be bettered by a more professional competent developer?

Owen David Coe
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I can believe it's happened again, and I had a funny feeling it would happen again. It's a new game cycle like 20 years ago, it's a shitstorm, like it was 20 years ago. Heads need to roll to get the game to move on. Very disappointed, but I also enjoy FM24, so looking forward to carrying on with it.

Bielsa is a Legend
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Looks like a tough year ahead for SI

 

Miles no longer a Director, seems his influence is waning

 

66m revenue for 171k of nett profit is 0.2%

 

Suggests SEGA are really creaming the costs

\'Appy \'Ammer
17 years ago
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Administrative expenses totalling £7.9m !! Is that where SEGA would be taking some of their money from? I would imagine the staff wage budget, travel etc is incorporated here as well. SI are answerable to SEGA, and I believe they have become too big a company to be able to go in the direction that they want to. I wouldn't be surprised to see a split in the next 12 months, or even a complete breakdown of the product. 

 

Highly competitive market? There was more competition for football management simulations back in the 80s when I was tapping away on my ZX Spectrum!

Footygamer
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I doubt they're struggling, they had 10,000,000 downloads this year, compared to 24,000,000 in the 17 years between 2004 and 2021. Obviously alot of that will be people that don't play because of netflix and games pass etc, but presumably they're still getting paid for that.

 

And what do you mean Miles no longer a director?

manuelluis
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By KEZ_7 10 October 2024 - 15:05 PM UTC 

Existe alguma atualização da época FM 23/24 para 24/25 e as ligas inferiores portuguesas com a base de dados atualizados agradeço que me enviem os links obrigado 

 

 

Bielsa is a Legend
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By Footygamer 13 October 2024 - 14:13 PM UTC 

I doubt they're struggling, they had 10,000,000 downloads this year, compared to 24,000,000 in the 17 years between 2004 and 2021. Obviously alot of that will be people that don't play because of netflix and games pass etc, but presumably they're still getting paid for that.

 

And what do you mean Miles no longer a director?

 

i would suggest the numbers are a replacement of platform, 5 years ago i would buy the boxed game, these days i use steam, so the o/a numbers are probably the same

 

the nett margin of <0.2% is shocking, if that was any other industry it would not survive, as they would run out of cash in development, clearly SEGA are keeping the brand afloat

 

On companies house the only 3 directors of SI are SEGA Directors, Miles not named anymore as he was a few years ago, looks like he is just an employee

Footygamer
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It says he stopped being a director in 2006, I think you're clutching at straws to find drama there.

Bielsa is a Legend
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By Footygamer 16 October 2024 - 05:38 AM UTC 

It says he stopped being a director in 2006, I think you're clutching at straws to find drama there.

 

Maybe, but he adds nothing, needs to go for this debacle

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