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I think we'll find out if Arsenal can win the title when you play City and Chelsea.

See, we're in transition definitely, and Moyes has my support and we're bound to lose some games. But performances like tonight are inexcusable.

I agree but at the same time we could feasibly win neither and still be top of the league. I hope we can step it up, and am confident that we can, but at the same time if we keep on beating the 'smaller' sides then beating the big ones might not be as important.

We can win the title and are title contenders, but I'd still have City as favourites. I'd probably have us and Chelsea around the same odds right now.
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I think we'll find out if Arsenal can win the title when you play City and Chelsea.

See, we're in transition definitely, and Moyes has my support and we're bound to lose some games. But performances like tonight are inexcusable.


Performances like tonight are the norm.

I don't want Moyes to go either, but that is only because of loyalty and a willingness to support him because he's our manager.

By any objective scale he's been an absolute disaster so far. I think there have been two positives so far in his entire reign (qualifying from the Champions League, beating Arsenal) and everything else has been somewhere in the region of disappointing to outright shambolic.

Gives off the impression, despite working with these players week in week out for months, that he has absolutely no idea who they are, what they are about and what they can do for him.
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I think we'll find out if Arsenal can win the title when you play City and Chelsea.

See, we're in transition definitely, and Moyes has my support and we're bound to lose some games. But performances like tonight are inexcusable.


See i hate it when people say that, yes those games are big but you get far more points from beating the other 15 or so lesser teams in the league. The same was said before the game against you lot and look whats happened to both teams since, we actually got better! The important difference for us so far this season is that we're winning when we play bad, we really haven't been that great in a fair few of our matches but have still got the goals and more importantly not given anything stupid away. I do believe we can win the league, but don't honestly feel that those two mentioned games will be the turning point in our season win or lose.
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Cunt's are winning now too ffs.
Telegram Sam
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Cunt's are winning now too ffs.

It doesn't even matter anymore. They're irrelevant.
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I agree but at the same time we could feasibly win neither and still be top of the league. I hope we can step it up, and am confident that we can, but at the same time if we keep on beating the 'smaller' sides then beating the big ones might not be as important.

We can win the title and are title contenders, but I'd still have City as favourites. I'd probably have us and Chelsea around the same odds right now.


Oh definitely, but I think it will seriously highlight your title credentials if you don't lose either game, and confidence will go sky high.
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Further behind the better, AVB is already starting to lose it so the more stick he gets the funnier it'll be.
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Oh definitely, but I think it will seriously highlight your title credentials if you don't lose either game, and confidence will go sky high.

True. If we beat Chelsea then we can go to the Etihad with no pressure on our backs.
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Fucking Howard Webb. Absolutely awful. Sick of the constant awful decisions this year.


Krul needs to fucking sort himself out as well, he seems to be totally unable to cut the mistakes out of his game.
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It comes down to whether or not they can start winning against the smaller teams. If they do, then they'll probably catch us.

The smaller teams aren't even the issue for us, it's the away form and lack of concentration.

Sadly, despite our win, both of those problems were evident at West Brom tonight. Hopefully Kompany can stay fit for a while this time.
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its crazy results today is it?!
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Valencia, recent form.

3 games, 29 attempted crosses. 1 found a player. Kagawa outside the area
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Another great goal tonight from us tonight. Ramsey and Ozil are forming a great partnership.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/8a7388d90516dbed36947f9623b27398/tumblr_mxaxd7u9Mn1rg3v37o1_400.gif
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To be fair to United, they got bugger all luck tonight.
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King Luis
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King Luis loses out on a few quid too.


You'll be pleased to know I put the bet on in the end
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Charlie Adam is a right cunt.

Lovely from Suarez again
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Charlie Adam is a right cunt.

Yes, he is. He's a dirty bastard too.
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I really don't want to sound like I'm blaming Atkinson because we've deserved this.

But jesus fucking christ. He's an absolute disgrace.


Nah, he was shite for both teams imo, so evened itself out.

Also:

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/601178_10202840770685456_347421427_n.jpg

\o/
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To be fair to United, they got bugger all luck tonight.


We definitely didn't deserve to win, we were so bad it was laughable. If you don't laugh you cry.

Fellaini hasn't shown any sign of improvement since joining, he's stayed incredibly average.

As for Moyes, again he still has my support, it'd be pathetic not to stand by him. However, last night everything went completely wrong. And there are no excuses.
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Valencia, recent form.

3 games, 29 attempted crosses. 1 found a player. Kagawa outside the area


This.

Valencia's been awful for 2 seasons yet but somehow he's always in or around the first team. They need to put Nani in and give him a run of 6/7 games. Generally whenever Nani has been given a consistent starting place he's performed, his problem is that when he's in and out of the squad he's rubbish.
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We definitely didn't deserve to win, we were so bad it was laughable. If you don't laugh you cry.

Fellaini hasn't shown any sign of improvement since joining, he's stayed incredibly average.

As for Moyes, again he still has my support, it'd be pathetic not to stand by him. However, last night everything went completely wrong. And there are no excuses.


Eh? We weren't even that bad. Rooney's deflected shot could have gone in but hit the post, Welbeck hit the bar. On another day we could have been 2/3-0 up before Everton scored.

Fellaini played well too. Probably his best game, which isn't saying much mind.
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Despite our possession we rarely threatened, only from set pieces. We played 4-4-2 which we should never, ever do. It doesn't work. We were uninspired and played poorly. Moyes took off Rafael and put Tony at right back, despite the obvious fact being he isn't a right back, and we conceded a goal from the right back position.

The way we're playing is worrying. It needs sorting, we've had moments when it looked like it was sorted i.e. not sitting back on a 1-0 lead at Leverkusen like we did at Cardiff, and beating Arsenal, but we've been too average.

Now I'm still supporting Moyes, but he needs to improve things. We can't really say 'he needs time like Fergie did' because Moyes inherited a league winning side, and plenty of other new managers haven't needed 'time'.

Of course it didn't help that Moyes was pretty much unsupported in the transfer market, then again he turned down Ozil and spent £27M on Fellaini so he has to take some of the blame.
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Despite our possession we rarely threatened, only from set pieces. We played 4-4-2 which we should never, ever do. It doesn't work. We were uninspired and played poorly. Moyes took off Rafael and put Tony at right back, despite the obvious fact being he isn't a right back, and we conceded a goal from the right back position.


We weren't great, but played better than you're suggesting. We were the better team in the first half, and there was a period in the second in which Everton couldn't get out of their own half. They defended deep at times which we struggle with, and they did it well.

If we'd have scored from the right-hand side, Moyes would be praised for moving a more attacking player to right-back - it at least showed he was going to win the game, which he's been criticised for not doing before. Although I found it odd 'cos Rafael is a pretty attacking full-back himself. Maybe wasn't fully fit or something.

We were poor in the final third 'cos Valencia was shit and Welbeck isn't fit, and Kagawa obviously playing on the left. Don't know why Januzaj didn't start.

Need Carrick back asap, and to play with Jones in the middle until we buy someone else.
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Januzaj needs to cut out his diving, it will lead to him getting a reputation which will only encourage more fouls on him by defenders. That won't be good for his development
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Nah, he was shite for both teams imo, so evened itself out.

Also:

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/601178_10202840770685456_347421427_n.jpg

\o/


Yeah, he didn't affect the result he's just an appalling referee who just doesn't have a clue.

It was just sheer luck that in a string of utterly bizarre decisions last night he didn't make one that ruined the game.
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I think a sin-bin should be put in place for 'professional' fouls i.e. intentionally stopping a counter attack
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The most important question, would you get five for fighting?

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