Telegram Sam
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Compete for what? Top 4 or title?

I've heard Grenier turned down Arsenal, and Kondogbia is third party owned, so there might not be enough time for that deal. Romain Amilifitano may be available though.

Although Arda Turan's agent has just said he expects an English club will meet his release clause.

We'd need five or six really good players to compete for the title, but perhaps three or four decent ones to get top four. That's not good enough though, given the amount of money we have and the ambition we supposedly hold. Spurs will be good again this year, with or without Bale, and Liverpool might even be a threat if Suarez gets back to his best for them.
Ninja
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I think £40m is a perfectly sensible fee for the pair of them considering Everton don't need to sell. Baines was the best left-back in the Premier League last season and considering that he's English £15m seems like a fair deal. Fellaini cost Everton £15m and it's reasonable to expect them to want a £10m profit given how good he's been for them, especially last season.


No matter how you divide up £40m it's too much for either one player or the other.

It doesn't matter how much Everton signed Fellaini for, because as soon as they put the clause in his contract no club is going to pay a penny more for him than that, the fact no club was willing to pay that, either, should tell you that if he's going to be sold then its going to be for less than that. If Everton don't want to sell him fine, but I don't want to see us spunking money in desperation on a player thats not worth it.

This squad romped home last season, if we have to survive another season without midfield reinforcements I'd rather we did that and approach next summer better than buy Fellaini in a ridiculous bid.
Telegram Sam
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No matter how you divide up £40m it's too much for either one player or the other.

It doesn't matter how much Everton signed Fellaini for, because as soon as they put the clause in his contract no club is going to pay a penny more for him than that, the fact no club was willing to pay that, either, should tell you that if he's going to be sold then its going to be for less than that. If Everton don't want to sell him fine, but I don't want to see us spunking money in desperation on a player thats not worth it.

This squad romped home last season, if we have to survive another season without midfield reinforcements I'd rather we did that and approach next summer better than buy Fellaini in a ridiculous bid.

I'm not saying you should spend £40m on the pair of them, I'm just saying that if I was Roberto Martinez I'd be extremely annoyed if we sold the pair of them for less than that considering they're not making a big stink about wanting to leave, nor are Everton desperate to sell.

£40m or not, £28 is far too low. £16m of that appears to be for Fellaini which seems somewhat ridiculous as that is what Everton paid for him, except now he's improved massively and has five years of Premier League experience.
Telegram Sam
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We're supposedly going to offer Swansea £35m for Michu and Ashley Williams - now that's mental.
tmatthew
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As has already been pointed out, all negotiations need a starting point.

I doubt we actually thought we could sign Fabregas for £25 mil, or that Chelsea believed we would sell Rooney for less than that.

I remember Arsenal fans defending this exact same tactic when Wenger offered £6m for Ashley Williams last year.
Slashman X
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As has already been pointed out, all negotiations need a starting point.

I doubt we actually thought we could sign Fabregas for £25 mil, or that Chelsea believed we would sell Rooney for less than that.

I remember Arsenal fans defending this exact same tactic when Wenger offered £6m for Ashley Williams last year.


Nah, that main issue here was you suggesting that it was completely ridiculous for Everton to hold out for £40m+
tmatthew
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Definitely didn't say that.

They're their players, they can hold out for £80 million if they want.

I simply found it funny that someone suggested they were valued at that amount.
Telegram Sam
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They're worth significantly more than £28m, anyway.
Julian.
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£10m for Cabaye is dumb, Wenger.

Cabaye + Kondogbia/ Bender would be brilliant, along with a striker, centre-half, a winger and a goalkeeper. We need at least five players, really, if we're going to compete this season.

Do you think you really stand any chance for the title even if you get five or six players?
tmatthew
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They're worth significantly more than £28m, anyway.


Besides the fact that we don't need Baines, I wouldn't really object to £35m.
Sam
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Scott Parker is off to Fulham. Three year deal.
Ninja
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They're worth significantly more than £28m, anyway.

No one's said they're not.

Just that £28m for both is about £7m less than I'd be happy to pay for the pair, not an absolute mile away like Everton seem to want.
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Thought Fulham could potentially struggle but I can't see it now, Darren Bent and Parker should do well.
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A good signing if wages are not too high
Sam
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Fulham have done really well this summer.

£28M for just Fellaini I'd be okay with, but anymore and we should go for someone else. I just hope we don't waste these finally couple weeks of the window, like we wasted time dithering over Thiago before we made a bid for Cesc and dithered too much on Cesc etc.
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Scotty was a good player but he's not anymore.
Deano
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Obtuse
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Scotty was a good player but he's not anymore.


No he wasn't. His running masked the rest of his game.
Crane
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They spelt letter wrong.
Fantastic
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Banned
Telegram Sam
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Do you think you really stand any chance for the title even if you get five or six players?

I thought even if we had a productive summer we wouldn't win the title but I thought we could at least challenge. If we bring in five or six top quality players, spending £70-80m in the process, then we might just be contenders. It's irrelevant, though, as we won't spend that. I'd be amazed if we spent half.
tmatthew
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I love how they think Moyes would make some kind of agreement when his contract expired anyway.
hammer9
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Wow! Parker to Fulham!
Number 1
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No Cabaye tonight... oh spiffing. Looks like Wenger's shit offer may have achieved the goal of forcing 'an injury'.
Telegram Sam
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Parker, Taarabt, Bent, Stekelenburg, Amorebieta - Fulham have made some impressive signings this summer.
Tommo.
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Dont forget Boateng
Telegram Sam
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Dont forget Boateng

I hadn't, I just don't know anything about him.
RealityCheck
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Obtuse
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You signed Drogba?
Crane
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Quite clearly Ainsley Harriott.

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