Transfer Rumours 2013/14

What a fucking dick

Kagawa is superb - as is Carrick who can pass as well as anybody.

Man Utd have no real powerhouse in there, in the Yaya Toure mould.

How dare he join a better club than you for more money to play Champions League football. What an inexplicable move.

Trust me, we're far more desperate for creativity from the deep in 90% of games than we are Fellaini, Yaya Toure or any 'powerhouse'. I'd argue even if we sign Fellaini there's plenty of games I'd much rather see Cleverley alongside Carrick than him. The lack of real creativity and ability to retain possession from deep is the number one reason why we often look so turgid.

He plays off the left for Japan, I'd hardly argue its a completely alien position for him. Regardless, he's not stamped any authority over his position. I agree with you that he'll come good eventually, but so far there's little he's shown to even put him in the same breath as players like that, let alone by justification for not signing them.

Aye but in the big boy world contracts need to be on paper.

Verbal contracts are legally binding pretty much everywhere, telemarketing literally wouldn't exist otherwise.

The difficulty is proving that a contract was agreed to.

Employment is usually one that has to be in writing. Especially if it's a contract of employment and not for employment.

Yeah, you're not going to get away with verbally agreeing on multi-million pound employment contracts.

What a fucking dick

What's wrong with Carrick and Cleverley for creativity from deep?

I know Cleverley is more advanced than Carrick but surely he's not an attacking midfielder in the traditional sense? Kagawa has that covered anyway.

I think the only thing it has going for it is that no matter how you look at it there is a perception that Dortmund aren't an absolute top draw team, which Gundogan may share. I remember people saying basically that exact line up until virtually the minute before Götze left for Bayern.

I can't adequately stress how unlikely I think it is (I mean, I don't think we're even trying to sign him regardless of anything else) but I'm never really 100% sure when making predictions about Dortmund.

I understand all that and I can see him leaving in the next couple of years, but there's absolutely no chance he's going anyway this summer.

Wiki, always reliable.

He's ok, but his positioning is awful, he fades in and out of games and his range of passing is limited. I like him how England use him, but I don't think he's really good enough at enough things to be a really effective player in a two man midfield.

Bale wants Madrid though so I can't see him going elsewhere. And of course Bale's in Spain for a reason.