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Guardiola's Bayern 4-1-4-1 (4-3-3 on the pitch)
I tried to replicate the style of Bayern in the current season, and so far it worked really well.
The tactic became fluid in the first match of the season!
It relies on high pressure and not allowing the opposition to even reach your side of the pitch, so i dont know if it will work with a weaker side, but
i would enjoy feedback on that.
I used to go with the usual 4-3-3 formation but i didn't like how the wingers work defensively, they rarely track back an atacker, so with wide midfielders is better, cause u can use a more defensive player and role to disable a good opponent's winger. The space between midfield and striker is compensated by the high pressure and you could also use a DLF or F9 if u dont like the Complete Forward.

For a weaker side, you can switch to Drop deeper and remove the offside trap if your defence is slow, you can try with "Be more expressive" if ur attackers are missing creativity, and "stick to positions" might be a good choice if your team fails to cover spaces when players change positions.

1.1 I added "Be more disciplined", because i think there was too much unnecessary flair, which caused too many risky passes and off target shots.
Also added corner and throw instructions but they are by my personal preferences.

2.0 Added some player instructions, removed pass into space, removed run at defence, removed get stuck in, changed defending corner instructions.


What to look for when building the right squad for a tactic like that:
  • Goalkeeper needs to be quick and with a good rushing out ability, otherwise he wont be able to intercept through balls or crosses or he will be caught away from the goal and you will receive some very long shot goals. (funny fact my Lewandowski scored 3 matches in a row from the half line when their keeper rushed out and cleared, unbelievable coincidence)
  • Defenders also need to have good pace and acceleration, as well as the obvious stats(marking,tackling,positioning), that's if you wanna use high defensive line and offside traps. Team cohesion training is good for defenders to sync better. Passing is good as well to help increase possession( especially for the BPD role )
  • Full backs, the basic stats for a full back, quickness, crossing, tackling, positioning, stamina, passing can be good stats here also so they don't miss many passes to give away possession.
  • Half back, positioning, tackling, passing, vision, good mental stats are a plus also.
  • DPL or BMW, the role here should depend on your team's strength and if u like it more defensive. For dpl good stats are vision, passing, tackling, positioning, long shots, off the ball. For the bwm you can look for higher tackling, positioning and marking, as well as passing and long shots( not so important but can produce goals )
  • AP role, nothing special here, just the regular stuff, technique, passing, vision, flair, dribbling, long shots, off the ball.
  • Wingers, if good long shots and finishing u can train them to cut inside, like Robben does, or u can make them cross more if crossing fits your players better. Good dribbling, passing, off the ball, technique, quickness are also key stats for a winger.
  • The Complete Forward, needs to be a striker that can litteraly do it all, crossing, finishing, passing, long shots, quickness, off the ball, composure, strength, jumping, heading... If you don't have such a striker, assign a more appropriate role for him.
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This is my setup usually, but u can experiment with different player roles and duties, if u want to play more defensive against a tough opponent.[/b]

http://i.imgur.com/NEud1bq.jpg?1

Average positions on the pitch, as u can see its more like 4-3-3

http://i.imgur.com/rh0GIid.jpg?1

First season results:
http://i.imgur.com/GuSeHPK.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/KV0x6ti.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/ow3vP84.jpg?1
Won the league 5 games ahead first season.The other competitions were really unlucky, lost semi final champions league to shakhtar on penalties, after 2 matches of extreme missing of chances. Lost supercup to dortmund also on penalties... Lost to leverkusen for the german cup after playing with 9 man since 60 min due to injuries and got turned around from 1-0 to 1-2.

http://i.imgur.com/bkrExtr.jpg
Discussion
Is this for FM 2015? I can't open the file as a .tac
Yea it is, i dont know why u cant open. Try the new file, or the fmf file in the description.
Yea it is, i dont know why u cant open. Try the new file, or the fmf file in the description.


Works now. Thanks.

HAve you got na aalternative tactic for a weaker team perhaps?
Hm, for a weaker team it can work also, if u got the right players for the positions, maybe try to experiment with "Be more expresive" or "Drop deeper" if ur defenders are too slow, and remove the offside trap. But if i change anything else it would be different play style. The goal here is to create a tactic with high possession and pressing. You can make it more defensive oriented through player roles, maybe use defensive wingers or ball winning midfielders. But for a weaker team in away games or versus a stronger team maybe a counter atacking tactic will be better.
How do I find the average player positions page?
When in a match, Analysis > Performance and then under event select average positions.
Cheers. Really useful.
Hm, for a weaker team it can work also, if u got the right players for the positions, maybe try to experiment with "Be more expresive" or "Drop deeper" if ur defenders are too slow, and remove the offside trap. But if i change anything else it would be different play style. The goal here is to create a tactic with high possession and pressing. You can make it more defensive oriented through player roles, maybe use defensive wingers or ball winning midfielders. But for a weaker team in away games or versus a stronger team maybe a counter atacking tactic will be better.


Thx. This is indeed a good tactic.

Can you eventually tell me where I can find a tactic (Counter or similar) to play against real strong teams?
Thx. This is indeed a good tactic.

Can you eventually tell me where I can find a tactic (Counter or similar) to play against real strong teams?

http://sortitoutsi.net/forums/topic/11646/4-1-4-1-defend
Check out this one its for 14 but it can work, main instructions for counter is direct passing, quicker tempo, drop deeper. Optional is hassle or stand off, stay on feet, be more disc and stick to positions, also play narrow and clear ball to flanks can be useful.
http://sortitoutsi.net/forums/topic/11646/4-1-4-1-defend
Check out this one its for 14 but it can work, main instructions for counter is direct passing, quicker tempo, drop deeper. Optional is hassle or stand off, stay on feet, be more disc and stick to positions, also play narrow and clear ball to flanks can be useful.


Thx. Can't download that one. Got any made for FM 2015?
Thx. Can't download that one. Got any made for FM 2015?
i know, i meant look at the pictures, u can see the tactical instructions and make your own tactic
i know, i meant look at the pictures, u can see the tactical instructions and make your own tactic


Can you or somebody get me a link for a kind of counter tactic for my weak team? This tactic is working fine when playing equal teams but against stronger ones nedd to change things around abit.

Thx.
I can the .tac file not in my fm15 importen..What can i do ?
please can i have this tactic with FMF extension ???

Thx Man
dogue pour la vie
I can not import the tactic
here it is http://www.mediafire.com/download/uro1g0qkatkw199/bayern+style2_CA16C42D-20F1-460D-8012-149404A6D789.fmf
but i have not tested it with the new patches so i dont know how it will work now, it is 3 months old
Thx Denis

i try and i report

have fun in game
dogue pour la vie
tryin it on ma southampton save
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