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4-3-3 a portuguese tiki-taka Installation Instructions
Give it a try :-)
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Miguel hows the tactic coming along?
Yes, I will share it later this afternoon. Can not do it for now, I am at work :-)
Yesterday I have played 4 pre-season games: 11-0, 4-0, 3-1. 2-1... (all away games). Remember first games of Barcelona with Guardiola? They had even a few losses. My Ball possession always at 60-65%, worse case 20 shots, best case more than 30, long range shots very few (1/3 of total shots even less). Results are normal except 11-0 ( wow!!! ) but as I said players are tired (condition around 80-85% beginning of the game) due to pre-season and not full identified with tactic (bars are not yet full). Strangely they do not have a high number os passes (although a lot of players have pass percentage near 100%) , but I believe is because they do not need to since the teams played against were weak. Let's see the next games, I have 2 pre-season games at home and next Portuguese Supercup. Still, for those who like tiki-taka it is very enjoyable to watch players with this tactic :-) for those who find it boring, they will not like it :-)

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o9k sounds good, i give it a try i am creating a tactic using the base of your second one.
Hi,guys!Try tactics for Ajax.Sorry for my bad English
Miguel have you got that tactic ready yet. Vaseksem let us no how you get on and post some results
OK!I will test in the second season.I will play several friendly matches

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Just running a few more tests and dealing with training of prefered moves, but I am getting there. Wait for it.... wait for it.

Did you try with the instructions I wrote?
What is the possession average and pass completion?

Tiki-Taka has always been very hard to recreate on FM.
Yes, hard, complexe, but possible.
Tactic I shared here, possession average around 65%, pass completion near 90%.

The new one, that I have wrote some instructions, is arround 65-70%, pass completion also 90% (88, 89). I have some players that do not even miss one pass. Although they are instructed to pass to feet (and other specific instructions) they do not make a lot of passes... still :-) This is the part I am working on and I believe today I will have these detalis solved.

Remember, tiki-taka is all about control... control the space, control the ball, always keep the ball. Also it is NOT a rigid system, nor even 10 players plus a goal-keeper. No! And it is all about movement, so you have to keep the ball and keep moving to unbalance the opposite team.

I have read and tried a lot of tiki-taka tactics but they all fail as a tiki-taka system, because the instructions are simply wrong. I am not saying they are not good tactics, I believe they are, but they are not tiki-taka :-)

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Miguel,not tried it.I do not understand English and could not translate correctly instructions
Which one of them?
Miguel,just laid out tactics to the forum and I have it uploaded.
Try these tactics
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The shouts: retain possession, work ball into box, hassle opponents, pass to feet, play out of defence and stay on feet
Vasekem what team our you using this tactics for?
I mean your own tactic and Miguel have you finished your master piece yet and cant wait to try them out.
Miguel could you try my tactic i have played 13 games in the English prem with Southampton and have 23 points sitting 4th in table i believe they would be even better with a better team however i haven't got the funds at the moment, and would like to no some results with a good team such as your Porto team.
Mark,I use these tactics with my Ajax in the second season.
no i mean your own tactic?
Mark,this is my tactic.Test and write the result.Perhaps you have ideas for improvement?
Maybe we've got to similar tactics but, mate, this one is my own creation :-)
what instructions do you give your players when you're wining by a low margin against a dangerous team?
Miguel,I'm sorry,but this is my tactics,brother.I tactics made on the basis of yours-do not argue,but she's mine.I will not argue if you will do the best option,I'll be happy.But we should not ignore until you have experienced.Yes,there are bad results,but there are positive.No need to make hasty conclusions.I think I clearly wrote that he was right.My English is bad,I wrote about this already.So no offense,guys!Miguel,your tactics are very good,but I'm waiting for a newer version.
Experience what mate? I created it and for the fist time I have shared a tactic in several websites. Did you creat one similar? Nice for you.
Lol miguel, hows your new tactics going and have you uploaded them yet mate?
not laughing at you put the comer in the wrong place i am laughing at your blunt response " Did you creat one similar? Nice for you."
What's the problem with these guys??? After 20 years I decided to share for the first time my own tactic and one dude decides to claim it's his tactic.

Mark, I can tell you now. I have cracked it mate. After hours, days of researching, reading, trying, I have finally cracked it. Like everything else, now I can say... and it was so simple :-) There are out there some tiki-taka tactics but although they could be nice tactics, they simply do not work. Why? Well, Barcelona does not play with a rigid or counter-attack philosophy, neither an attacking strategy. It's about control and beeing fluid, two things that I already use in the first tactic. But there is something else extremly important, that makes total difference that nobody in FM uses, at least I never saw it in the other tactics... but this, I will reveal tomorrow with the tactic :-)

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cant you pm it me or email me as a exclusive look at it Miguel, and i no what you mean ive been playing fm since 2005 and championship manger since 98-99 and people who have been playing it for a year or two who use the best teams in every league thing they no best.
just finished my first season with my tactic not the best but very pleased with the outcome.
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Quando fizeres o update dessa tactica actualizada avisa. gostei bastante da anterior

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