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Is he the Man Utd version of Carroll?
By Crane | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 21:18 PM
Is he the Man Utd version of Carroll?

By zeonflux | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 20:58 PM
if he player for a smaller club like West Brom or Wigan he wouldn't have been in the team let alone the starting 11


People could say the same about other players. Seen it said for Welbeck often.
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Thought Welbecks work off the ball was great, worth noting that Dani Alves was invisible until Welbeck came off.

Cleverley and Wilshere in midfield was pretty sexy.
By Dutton | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 07:44 AM
Thought Welbecks work off the ball was great, worth noting that Dani Alves was invisible until Welbeck came off.

Cleverley and Wilshere in midfield was pretty sexy.


They really did dominate the midfield, made Brazil look quite average.
England played stuff nice stuff tonight.

By KEV0 | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 21:46 PM
They really did dominate the midfield, made Brazil look quite average.

Don't take this the wrong way, but why were you staying up to good only knows o'clock to watch an England friendly?

Unless its the morning in Australia now, in which case disregard.

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Enjoyed watching England tonight for the first time in a while - really excited about the Cleverly-Wilshere partnership, just a shame Gerrard and Lampard are getting on. They decided it would be a good time to play well together tonight

Welbeck wasn't the best but he was playing wide left and he's just not a winger - I'd have liked to see Oxlade-Chamberlain there instead, especially with it being a friendly. Same with Walker and Johnson at right back. Although saying that, Johnson had a good game.

Nice to see Baines get some pitch time too - he's a better option than Cole for the future, although I'd say they're around even in ability at the present.

Good performance all in all

Oh, and if Zeonflux makes one more moronic statement he will be receiving a warning. The only one I'll ever hand out in 2013 probably.
By Ninja | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 08:58 AM
England played stuff nice stuff tonight.

Don't take this the wrong way, but why were you staying up to good only knows o'clock to watch an England friendly?

Unless its the morning in Australia now, in which case disregard.


Morning time in Australia and I got up anyway to watch the Ireland friendly.
By Poe | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 23:08 PM
Enjoyed watching England tonight for the first time in a while - really excited about the Cleverly-Wilshere partnership, just a shame Gerrard and Lampard are getting on. They decided it would be a good time to play well together tonight

Welbeck wasn't the best but he was playing wide left and he's just not a winger - I'd have liked to see Oxlade-Chamberlain there instead, especially with it being a friendly. Same with Walker and Johnson at right back. Although saying that, Johnson had a good game.

Nice to see Baines get some pitch time too - he's a better option than Cole for the future, although I'd say they're around even in ability at the present.

Good performance all in all

Oh, and if Zeonflux makes one more moronic statement he will be receiving a warning. The only one I'll ever hand out in 2013 probably.

I know it's not going to happen, because he's captain 'n all. But I'd love to see a Carrick/Cleverley/Wilshere midfield combo tried out. That would produce some of the sexiest football I will have ever seen from an England team.

That with Rooney up the top and a pacey combination of Walcott/Welbeck/Chamberlain either side of Rooney will be fun, if nothing else.
By Ninja | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 23:19 PM
I know it's not going to happen, because he's captain 'n all. But I'd love to see a Carrick/Cleverley/Wilshere midfield combo tried out. That would produce some of the sexiest football I will have ever seen from an England team.

That with Rooney up the top and a pacey combination of Walcott/Welbeck/Chamberlain either side of Rooney will be fun, if nothing else.


Holy shit, we'd have a good team.
Gonna win the World Cup tbh
By Blaze | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 00:03 AM
Gonna win the World Cup tbh

Clearly.
By Ninja | Permalink | On 06 February 2013 - 23:19 PM
I know it's not going to happen, because he's captain 'n all. But I'd love to see a Carrick/Cleverley/Wilshere midfield combo tried out. That would produce some of the sexiest football I will have ever seen from an England team.

That with Rooney up the top and a pacey combination of Walcott/Welbeck/Chamberlain either side of Rooney will be fun, if nothing else.


Aye, said that to my housemate tonight - tbf Gerrard offers a bit more than Carrick still and has been playing well this season. I agree with your policy on Ruud Gullit sexy football though. Carrick-Wilshere-Cleverley would definitely be interesting.

Hart
Johnson - Smalling - Cahill - Baines
Carrick - Wilshere - Cleverley
Walcott - Rooney - Ox/Young/Welbeck




NO MORE JAMES MILNER UNLESS HE'S CENTRE MIDFIELD TOO PLEASE THANKYOU
Wilshere was untouchable tonight - the way he bursts from the midfield and beats play with ease is reminiscent of Gascoigne from his heyday. Good performance from the team overall.
By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 13:30 PM
Wilshere was untouchable tonight - the way he bursts from the midfield and beats play with ease is reminiscent of Gascoigne from his heyday. Good performance from the team overall.


The only thing I could see that he needs to add to his game is using his right foot more, if he does that he's going to be unstoppable, I mean his passing with his left foot is 99% of the time spot on and you could tell tonight that Brazil were uncomfortable every time he started running at them. I'd go as far to say that Welbeck on the left outside of Wilshere will get a lot of chances in the future as he did tonight because Wilshere has the ability to drag defenders out of position and play little inch perfect reverse passes.
Good to see Wilshere show to people (that are not Arsenal fans) just how good he is. I personally feel that having Welbeck on the left offers little if anything to the team imo, he's simply not a winger and is also completely right footed which makes him even more awkward playing there.
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By A Little Bit Of Merson Magic | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 16:21 PM
Good to see Wilshere show to people (that are not Arsenal fans) just how good he is. I personally feel that having Welbeck on the left offers little if anything to the team imo, he's simply not a winger and is also completely right footed which makes him even more awkward playing there.

Nah he's not.

When he remembers that your supposed to put the round thing between the white things not over it he'll be an option at least, mostly because I don't think any of the players we have are traditional wingers.
VP absolutely detests Welbeck and will never say anything positive about him.
By jumberto | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 16:32 PM
VP absolutely detests Welbeck and will never say anything positive about him.


Really? As i quite clearly remember praising the finish from him against Belgium and saying he should certainly be our main striker in the last Euro's if he can do that. And it was Ninja who played him down, a lot.

For me, Chamberlain or maybe Young would offer a lot more than Welbeck on the left. But then im going by how we play with someone like Podolski out wide with Walcott opposite.

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You just seem to slag him off at any opportunity, fair enough if you haven't though.

I think Welbeck has proven himself a lot more than Oxlade-Chamberlain, he's had a tough season and only the goals are missing really but he's playing wide a lot and learning a new role and the rest of his game is brilliant.
I think Welbeck has the potential to be a good player, he just needs to work on his finishing. I think he's wasted out on the left as well.
I'd also rather have Ox or Young than Welbeck on wide left - he's got no left foot.
By A Little Bit Of Merson Magic | Permalink | On 07 February 2013 - 17:55 PM
Really? As i quite clearly remember praising the finish from him against Belgium and saying he should certainly be our main striker in the last Euro's if he can do that. And it was Ninja who played him down, a lot.

For me, Chamberlain or maybe Young would offer a lot more than Welbeck on the left. But then im going by how we play with someone like Podolski out wide with Walcott opposite.

I think iirc all I said was one swallow doesn't make a summer and one chip vs Belgium doesn't make him a great finisher, which is correct.
Sturridge

Ox Rooney Walcott

Cleverley Wilshere


Should be the front 6, maybe Welbeck instead of Sturridge in the future, but atm Sturridge should be ahead.
By Carroll. | Permalink | On 08 February 2013 - 13:06 PM
SturridgeW

Ox Rooney Walcott

Cleverley Wilshere


Should be the front 6, maybe Welbeck instead of Sturridge in the future, but atm Sturridge should be ahead.

I think we need a more defensive-minded midfielder in the central pairing. Not sure Cleverley can operate in that role if Wilsshere is bursting through from deep.
I dunno I sense both Wilshere and Cleverley to be of the creative type. So for England they both would have to play a deeper role sort of to accommodate for this.
Yeah that team is far too attacking.

Rooney Sturridge Walcott

Cleverley Carrick Wilshere

For me.
Not sure about Carrick, Cleverley & Wilshere being defensive enough. Maybe Jones or Rodwell in at DMC if they ever get fit and ready. (Behind Wilshere and Cleverley)
Thing is, especially with Wilshare, I think he can become a great box to box player, he's obviously good in attack, but he also looks decent defending, if he just ups his work rate a little he could turn out to be similar player to Gerrard when he was at his best, while Cleverly can play a more attacking role.
By Carroll. | Permalink | On 08 February 2013 - 14:14 PM
Thing is, especially with Wilshare, I think he can become a great box to box player, he's obviously good in attack, but he also looks decent defending, if he just ups his work rate a little he could turn out to be similar player to Gerrard when he was at his best, while Cleverly can play a more attacking role.

Wilshere is wasted if you try and use him as the holding player in a midfield three, seeing as his best qualities come from him breaking forward from deep and involving himself with link up play between himself and the attackers. That's obviously going to leave a huge gap in midfield if he's breaking forward and is meant to be the holding man. At Arsenal, he's always been given a licence to roam with one of Diaby, Ramsey or Arteta sitting deeper and covering when he breaks forward. England would need to employ a similar strategy, with either Gerrad or Carrick occupying that role. Ideally, we'd have someone younger in there, but Rodwell barely plays anymore and Jones doesn't convince me as a holding midfielder.
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