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Surprised McClean isn't pro-Queen now that its confirmed she's a Nazi
Surprised McClean isn't pro-Queen now that its confirmed she's a Nazi

I'd heard about that on the BBC, fuck me what a ridiculous nothing story.
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Mourinho says his rivals are buying the title.

He's a bit boring these days.
Mourinho says his rivals are buying the title.

He's a bit boring these days.

But he does have a point...
But he does have a point...

Not really. Pretty much every team that wins the league has 'bought' the title nowadays.
But he does have a point...


I agree too, I feel his pain. Its such a shame he's only been able to spend over £200m himself since he came back to Chelsea. I dunno how they make do with signings like Fabregas, Costa, Matic and Cuadrado. Come to think of it it's amazing how much success Chelsea have had over the last 10 years considering how little they have spent.

In all seriousness though, meh, it's the new normal. I agree with Sam though, it's getting boring. Most other managers/people just ignore him now. Since Fergie retired it's only ever really interesting when he goes after Arsenal as him and Wenger genuinely seem to hate each other.

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Mourinho is boring as fuck. Can't believe the English press pander so much to him.
But he does have a point...




He did the exact same in 2004/2005.
Every team that has ever won it has normally bought it.

He still riles Man Utd fans up by saying it, as everyone calls him boring.

He's far from boring.
I dunno, I think he has mellowed a bit since coming back to the Premier League. Maybe this season there will be more of a challenge and get him going again!
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Most of the time Mourinho doesn't annoy me, he is a brilliant manager and comes across as a cool guy - like his BT Sport interview was really good.

But it's when he goes into his moaning old man routine he gets annoying. Yesterday he moved onto having a go at pre season and taking digs at Wenger and Pellegrini. He used to be entertaining at this sort of thing.

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Chelsea

2013/14: Andre Schurrle £18m, Marco van Ginkel £8m, Cristian Cuevas £1.7m, Willian £32m, Isaiah Brown £209,000*, Christian Atsu £3.5m, Nemanja Matic £21m, Mohamed Salah £11m, Kurt Zouma £12.5m.

2014/15: Cesc Fabregas £30m, Diego Costa £32m, Mario Pasalic £3m*, Felipe Luis £15.8m, Loic Remy £8.5m, Juan Cuadrado £23.3m.

2015/16: Asmir Begovic £8m, Nathan £4.5m*, Danilo Pantic £1.25m*.

Total: £234.259m.

Arsenal

2013/14: Mesut Ozil £42.5m, Matt Macey £100,000*.

2014/15: Alexis Sanchez £35m, Mathieu Debuchy £12m, David Ospina £3m, Calum Chambers £16m, Danny Welbeck £16m, Krystian Bielik £2.4m, Gabriel Paulista £11.2m.

2015/16: Petr Cech £10m.

Total: £148.2m

*Reported fee
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Chelsea have sold considerably more than Arsenal, tbf.
It's not as if we were never big spenders. The 10m we spent on Thierry is probably like 20m+ in todays market. Contrary to popular belief Wenger will spend and did so before our move to the Emirates consistently. 16m on Reyes, 13m on Wiltord etc.

It's just that we had severe constraints on our spending from 2006-2013, something Mourinho has never had to worry about. All of our funds are self-generated too, unlike Mourinho when he made Chelsea title contenders/winners. We're now in a position where we can spend around 60-70m a year without any detriment to the club or the clubs future. We have around 200m in cash reserves and we'd have to spend something ridiculous like 300m in one season to break FFP.
Yeah to be fair, net spend is very different.

They've made about 30m in sales this summer already and last summer was about 80m.

He's just doing it to get a reaction though, which is working.
Yeah to be fair, net spend is very different.

They've made about 30m in sales this summer already and last summer was about 80m.

He's just doing it to get a reaction though, which is working.


Yeah, but to be fair the difference between the two clubs net spend is like £6m. It's hardly worth slagging the club off over.

Also I find net spend a bit over simplistic; Chelsea paid roughly £30m more in wages than Arsenal did the season before last its a weird thing to discount when you're talking about their financial weight.
I think an easy way to see it is this. We were a couple million off being able to sign and afford Eden Hazard in the summer before he was sold to Chelsea.

As a result, we signed fucking Gervinho instead. We still probably can't really afford to pay the wages Hazard is currently on either (I'm guessing he's on around 200k p/w now).
It's just that we had severe constraints on our spending from 2006-2013, something Mourinho has never had to worry about. All of our funds are self-generated too, unlike Mourinho when he made Chelsea title contenders/winners. We're now in a position where we can spend around 60-70m a year without any detriment to the club or the clubs future. We have around 200m in cash reserves and we'd have to spend something ridiculous like 300m in one season to break FFP.


Arsenal didn't have to do this. I'm amazed that the Arsenal board got away with it.
Didn't have to do what?
Move to the Emirates.

Or finance the Stadium in the way they did.
It's not as if we were never big spenders. The 10m we spent on Thierry is probably like 20m+ in todays market. Contrary to popular belief Wenger will spend and did so before our move to the Emirates consistently. 16m on Reyes, 13m on Wiltord etc.

It's just that we had severe constraints on our spending from 2006-2013, something Mourinho has never had to worry about. All of our funds are self-generated too, unlike Mourinho when he made Chelsea title contenders/winners. We're now in a position where we can spend around 60-70m a year without any detriment to the club or the clubs future. We have around 200m in cash reserves and we'd have to spend something ridiculous like 300m in one season to break FFP.

Mourinho had spending constraints the summer we signed Sidwell, Ben Haim and Pizarro. Which was like 07/08. Pretty sure the only money he spent that season was for Malouda and Belletti. Which was literally all off-set by the sale of Robben and Glen Johnson. Then we got Anelka and Ivanovic in the Jan window, which would have been when Grant was in charge.

While he's pretty much operated within a budget since returning, funded largely by the sales of first team players like Mata, Luiz, KdB, etc. We've taken FFP seriously and maintained the aim of becoming more self sufficient as originally intended. Which has taken longer because of the considerable revenue we miss out on with Stamford Bridge being the size it is.
Move to the Emirates.

Or finance the Stadium in the way they did.


We had to move it was just a matter of when. If we wanted to progress to the next level in terms of stature there's no chance we could've stayed at Highbury.

We got no help from the government and the stadium cost was £430m. We got £100m from Emirates (15 year deal from 2004) and was only getting around £13m a year from Nike since 2004 on a 10 year deal. We also had to regenerate the surrounding areas too. The only way we could fund that was by spending as little net profit as possible each window whilst simultaneously achieving CL football each season.

Thanks to Wenger miraculously keeping us in there with shite like Denilson & Djourou being played over the years, our debt is a lot more manageable now and we can afford to spend 60m each season with our new commercial deals like the Puma one which gets us 30m per season. I'm guessing once the Emirates deal ends we'll also be able to get a large amount from our next shirt sponsor. So things can really accelerate in the next few years to help us progress to where we want to be, which is a Bayern Munich-esque model.
Could Arsenal not have just taken on more debt? Or raise money externally?
We raised money through re-developing then selling on property and also from turning Highbury into flats. I think Wenger could've invested the money we had more wisely into players but I think we got good money for pretty much all of the players we sold apart from Cesc really.

Didn't help that Cesc fucked off to the Spanish GP & went on strike forcing a move though meaning we got a lot less than we wanted for him. I think it was all to accelerate the minimising of debt. We've got some really big commercial opportunities coming up though so it'd be worth it in the end.

We've had it quite hard in comparison to the likes of West Ham paying essentially fuck all for a stadium they won't be able to fill.
I reckon West Ham could fill it, although not through West Ham fans. Tourists will probably want to get in just because its the Olympic stadium and in the process they'll create a dull and shite atmosphere.
1 week to the start of the season and we're still weaker than when we started last year.
How have you figured that one out then?
Santon, Ryan Taylor and Mbiwa left in defence during last year and we've only brought in Mbemba.

I meant defensively.

We need another centre back and quickly, Taylor and Williamson are absolute horror shows.

De Jong and Wijnaldum looked good today mind, another complete no show from Sissoko, though.

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tbf Santon and Mbiwa played a combined a 0 PL minutes iirc, and Taylor looked finished unfortunately. And Lascellas too.


If Mbemba is half as good as promised. The defence will have improved dramatically.
We still need somebody to play alongside him though?

Coloccini is 33 and well on the decline.

Taylor and Williamson aren't good enough.

We also had Lascelles last season, and yeah they did - but they still haven't been replaced yet.
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