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Jesus wept, that's really awful.. who thought those shorts were a good idea, and why on earth can they not decide on where to put the sleeves? The collar shape is a pain as well, means there's not really an easy way to get lines on a round collar, can't just use the circle tool and cut away what isn't needed.. bugger!!
Read through a little of this and other than maybe the odd problem with the socks, will the older kit version still work ok with FM20?
http://www.liveonlineradio.net/wp-content/themes/Music_Covers/images/music2.gif -------- http://rs648.pbsrc.com/albums/uu204/JeWeL1980_photos/7505xjc54lf3np.gif~c200 -------- http://www.liveonlineradio.net/wp-content/themes/Music_Covers/images/music2.gif
Read through a little of this and other than maybe the odd problem with the socks, will the older kit version still work ok with FM20?


It'll technically work, but socks have an issue, sleeves will be the wrong way around on some kits with sleeve sponsors or different sleeves, shorts will be jumbled around and there'll be odd bands of different colours where the templates don't quite line up.
It'll technically work, but socks have an issue, sleeves will be the wrong way around on some kits with sleeve sponsors or different sleeves, shorts will be jumbled around and there'll be odd bands of different colours where the templates don't quite line up.


Shame as a bit more than I thought then, will still give them a go though.

Also keep the amazing work you lot do here (though it seems to have just got a bit harder)
http://www.liveonlineradio.net/wp-content/themes/Music_Covers/images/music2.gif -------- http://rs648.pbsrc.com/albums/uu204/JeWeL1980_photos/7505xjc54lf3np.gif~c200 -------- http://www.liveonlineradio.net/wp-content/themes/Music_Covers/images/music2.gif
For the kits already made, I'm not a Photoshop expert by any stretch of the imagination but I reckon that an action could be created automatically moving the sections which have changed into the new format, so that at least that work isn't "wasted". You could then have all the old kits changed automatically into the new format
Manchester United FM20
H / A / T

https://i.imgur.com/fFKeTZ2.png

https://i.imgur.com/2j1YNgO.png

https://i.imgur.com/piDKOsl.png
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For kit makers;

Here's the first basic layout of FM20 3D kit. In my personal opinion, it's just terrible. A round collar in game needs to be drawn almost like a "V" to get it round. Back number and player name are oversized and badly placed so no space for sponsors between collar and player name. Texture mapping on shorts is a mess that is hard to understand. Whoever made this, he certainly doesn't care about details.

Also, not a problem for itself, but it needs to be pointed out that left and right sleeves switched places, so pay attention when remaking half-half designs for F20

https://i.imgur.com/vwsEH8g.png

Hey @bolid74 - where can I download a PSD of the template to start working on any 3D Kits?
Hey @bolid74 - where can I download a PSD of the template to start working on any 3D Kits?

Nowhere yet, I barely started working on it
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I stay with FM 18, 19 !!!
Not gonna have the chance to make many kits with the fact I've now got a job, but the red stripe on top of the socks was annoying me so here's the york kits, originally made by Bolid but adapted for FM20 by me, I'm not farting about with the collar because whatever shape SI want the round ones to be, I hate it. Genuinely this template is terrible to work with, at least between FM18 and FM19 there was obvious improvements, this is a step backwards in terms of the kit making. Now I'm gonna try to enjoy the weekend!

https://i.imgur.com/bmRaL9t.png

https://i.imgur.com/bDMQPUD.png

https://i.imgur.com/RUUY4ac.png

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Nowhere yet, I barely started working on it


AH! No worries buddy - there's me hoping one was hidden in the fmf folders somewhere!
For the kits already made, I'm not a Photoshop expert by any stretch of the imagination but I reckon that an action could be created automatically moving the sections which have changed into the new format, so that at least that work isn't "wasted". You could then have all the old kits changed automatically into the new format


It could work (potentially, I'm not sure how actions work myself) but I imagine it would potentially look scruffy. To get it all to fit the kit seams actually need to be resized/stretched in places as the shirt texture is now wider by a little bit, as well as the collars being in odd positions, the front of the collar and the back seem to be slightly mismatched in heights, or at least that's how it seems to me after staring (in disbelief mainly) at the new one for a while. It could work fine I might just be a perfectionist, but if someone could get that sort of thing working I'm sure it would be fantastic as a stand-in for most kits, though more detailed kits may need more attention.
Aston Villa FM20 home

https://i.imgur.com/48SYyaP.png
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I'll be doing some of the teams I come across (on weekends at least because that's the only time I'll get to play now), not sure how many I'll do but here's 2 more from National North, by no means gonna be the quality of Bolid because that collar can.. go away nicely

Alfreton
https://i.imgur.com/wBFHXkx.png

https://i.imgur.com/EYufYAt.png

Spennymoor Town
https://i.imgur.com/qGpPIYG.png

https://i.imgur.com/iKlDIku.png
Another addition due to a random friendly game I've just played, Tamworth

https://i.imgur.com/gperwf2.png

https://i.imgur.com/kWrDeVr.png
Thanks @A11_Smithy & @bolid74 for your quality creations as always.
Bolid, you are using Premier League outdated badge for your FM20 kits. I remember you used the correct one when you released the 2019/20 English 3D pack for FM19.
It could work (potentially, I'm not sure how actions work myself) but I imagine it would potentially look scruffy. To get it all to fit the kit seams actually need to be resized/stretched in places as the shirt texture is now wider by a little bit, as well as the collars being in odd positions, the front of the collar and the back seem to be slightly mismatched in heights, or at least that's how it seems to me after staring (in disbelief mainly) at the new one for a while. It could work fine I might just be a perfectionist, but if someone could get that sort of thing working I'm sure it would be fantastic as a stand-in for most kits, though more detailed kits may need more attention.

so I make kits without texture, so that in the future it would be possible to fix something, change the color or add a sponsor for example!
Aston Villa FM20 away & third

https://i.imgur.com/WpFMnzv.png

https://i.imgur.com/94Z1LpJ.png
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Bolid, you are using Premier League outdated badge for your FM20 kits. I remember you used the correct one when you released the 2019/20 English 3D pack for FM19.


Can't really spot the problem here...

https://i.imgur.com/EFJKkuy.png
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Leicester FM20 home

https://i.imgur.com/SrSAsSo.png
Bolid74 Youtube channel - kit making videos and kit installation instructions
so I make kits without texture, so that in the future it would be possible to fix something, change the color or add a sponsor for example!


Good idea that, just depends on your style I suppose!
Leicester FM20 away & third

https://i.imgur.com/Wtsibic.png

https://i.imgur.com/GZfUQLE.png
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Wolves FM20 home

https://i.imgur.com/huPAI9C.png
Bolid74 Youtube channel - kit making videos and kit installation instructions
Why does Sports Interactive keep doing this, do they not realise how long it takes kit makers to make all these kits just to change the templates every year they bring out a new game. All those kits that have already being made for older versions of FM are now pointless and unless the kit makers will still do the 3D kits for the older versions as well the game will not be the same. So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, Sports Interactive, yes tweak the game to make it better but stop messing about with the kit templates.
Why does Sports Interactive keep doing this, do they not realise how long it takes kit makers to make all these kits just to change the templates every year they bring out a new game. All those kits that have already being made for older versions of FM are now pointless and unless the kit makers will still do the 3D kits for the older versions as well the game will not be the same. So PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, Sports Interactive, yes tweak the game to make it better but stop messing about with the kit templates.


It's a kick in the tits for sure, largely it feels like they don't care about this side of things. We'll adapt and move on, it just cripples kit makers until the next year comes.
Kidderminster Harriers kits, probably the ones I'm most pleased with out of the remakes.

https://i.imgur.com/DJWGPa0.png

https://i.imgur.com/vxMBCPE.png
Bradford Park Avenue

https://i.imgur.com/5AVSql4.png

https://i.imgur.com/WpUIAIi.png

https://i.imgur.com/3aBVv6K.png
Hello,everyone.I'm a fresher in graphic and I always wonder why we couldn't make 3d kits for goalkeeper?
Hello,everyone.I'm a fresher in graphic and I always wonder why we couldn't make 3d kits for goalkeeper?


SI never made that possible, and people rarely asked for it.
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Wolves FM20 away & third

https://i.imgur.com/91Kgv2N.png

https://i.imgur.com/kWgSexi.png
Bolid74 Youtube channel - kit making videos and kit installation instructions
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