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1) Manchester United
2) Manchester City
3) Tottenham
4) Chelsea
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18) Sunderland
19) Burnley
20) Hull

Bottom two is exactly the same as @Sam's but I think those two spots speak for themselves. Hull simply don't have a squad and baring a miracle they'll be doomed and I don't think Burnley are good enough to survive although they can prove me wrong. I'm hoping this'll be the year Sunderland finally get relegated back to the Championship but I'd expect another Wiganesque survival.

The top two is hard to call but I've gone for Manchester United to outdo their rivals City for no real reason whatsoever, I think this'll be the campaign Arsenal fail to qualify for the Champions League, losing out to London rivals duo of Tottenham and Chelsea. Liverpool, I think will finish sixth in Klopp's first full season in charge.
The top two is hard to call but I've gone for Manchester United to outdo their rivals City for no real reason whatsoever, I think this'll be the campaign Arsenal fail to qualify for the Champions League, losing out to London rivals duo of Tottenham and Chelsea. Liverpool, I think will finish sixth in Klopp's first full season in charge.


People never learn
I went for...
1. MUFC
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
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18. Swansea
19. Burnley
20. Hull

Not convinced enough by Arsenal or Spurs' back-up options, but am by Conte and Klopp. It'll be close between them for top 4 though - maybe even final day. Swansea I feel have let go of everyone too quickly.
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1. Man United
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Arsenal
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18. Burnley
19. Sunderland
20. Hull
Hull, who we've all predicted to finish bottom, lead the champions Leicester at half time.
Bit late but:

1. City
2. United
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Chelsea
6. Spurs
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18. Watford
19. Hull
20. Burnley
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

OYSTON OUT
Leicester trying to out do their achievement of last season by becoming the first Champions to be relegated.
They're already the first ever Premier League champions to lose on the opening day.

Great performance from Hull, after all the shit this summer. Mike Phelan - managerial genius.
City dropping Hart and Kolorov at centre-back today with Silva in what looks like a midfield 2.

Any other manager and they'd get pilloried buy they'll probably win 5-0.
There's a high chance Agüero could get about 7 goals today
Sunderland will get at least a draw.
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1. Man City
2. Chelsea
3. Man Utd
4. Arsenal
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18. Bournemouth
19. Hull
20. Burnley

Not convinced we'll get anywhere this season, top 4 very unlikely with the lack of transfer business so far. Janssen looks decent but Wanyama is a bit uninspiring. Could really do with at least another winger before the window closes.
Mata starts for us today. But remember that Mourinho *really* dislikes him, that's the narrative.
Is Mikidikiraaarn injured? Why isnt he starting?
Is Mikidikiraaarn injured? Why isnt he starting?


Being eased in I assume.

I said a few times on here when we signed him I don't think he's as good a player as some would have you believe and that I don't think he's a guaranteed success so hopefully its a sign of Mourinho recognising that and being careful with how he introduces him.
Rooney already causing me anguish three minutes in.
Rooney already causing me anguish three minutes in.

Football must be back.
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Well that was better than I hoped.

Lots to work on, but some positives too. Not sure about that front four, but hopefully we won't see much of it.
Good opening win.

First half had no spark, defense did their bit on both sides but no end product for either team. Opening goal was fortunate, absolute mare for Francis not once but twice making a dog's dinner of the situation.

Second half was far more open, United came out of their shell and had far more space in the midfield areas to create chances. Ibra's goal was very well taken. Switched off for their consolatory goal.

Bailly hardly put a foot wrong, deserved man of the match. Excited to see how well they can progress once Smalling and Pogba return but Fellaini has some serious question marks floating over his head about his place in the first team.

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Good opening win.

First half had no spark, defense did their bit on both sides but no end product for either team. Opening goal was fortunate, absolute mare for Francis not once but twice making a dog's dinner of the situation.

Second half was far more open, United came out of their shell and had far more space in the midfield areas to create chances. Ibra's goal was very well taken. Switched off for their consolatory goal.

Bailly hardly put a foot wrong, deserved man of the match. Excited to see how well they can progress once Smalling and Pogba return but Fellaini has some serious question marks floating over his head about his place in the first team.


Thats true but he was comfortably one of the best players on the pitch today. Weird game to single him out.
Thats true but he was comfortably one of the best players on the pitch today. Weird game to single him out.


Debatable, first half he was very poor so he kind of moved up a little bit in the second. Still wouldn't have him in the squad tbf.
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Surely Pogba will just fit into Fellaini' spot? Cant stand the thug anyway
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Schneiderlin should probably take over in that holding defensive midfield role with Pogba and Herrera just ahead of him.
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Surely Pogba will just fit into Fellaini' spot? Cant stand the thug anyway

Who, Pogba or Fellaini?
Rooney and Mata with two blatant dives today btw.
Debatable, first half he was very poor so he kind of moved up a little bit in the second. Still wouldn't have him in the squad tbf.


Nah not having that at all. He was about everything that you'd hope he'd have been today. Broke up the play, moved the ball on quickly, accurately and with little fuss, and generally did his job with little fuss. In fact I'd probably go as far as to say that he performed the role asked of him today better than he ever has in a United shirt.

I'm a long way from a fan of Fellaini, but if he plays like that week in week out he'll keep Herrera, Schneiderlin and Carrick out of the team on merit.
Nah not having that at all. He was about everything that you'd hope he'd have been today. Broke up the play, moved the ball on quickly, accurately and with little fuss, and generally did his job with little fuss. In fact I'd probably go as far as to say that he performed the role asked of him today better than he ever has in a United shirt.

I'm a long way from a fan of Fellaini, but if he plays like that week in week out he'll keep Herrera, Schneiderlin and Carrick out of the team on merit.


That may be, but he needs to do that every week, not just once a month. Inconsistency is not welcome.
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That may be, but he needs to do that every week, not just once a month. Inconsistency is not welcome.


Agreed, but thats not exclusive to Fellaini.
Agreed, but thats not exclusive to Fellaini.


I know it's not but he seems to be the standout for inconsistency. Shaw had a poor game too in terms of control and passing.
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Ramsey offers so much more playing as the number 10 than Ozil does.
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