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Handy stuff.
Now you get notified when someone is making your request and when it's finished.
Great job guys
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2wo93c2.jpg
Handy stuff.
Now you get notified when someone is making your request and when it's finished.
Great job guys

All credits to Rob

It's still a work in progress as there's a couple of small features still to be added in due course to increase functionality but this is broadly how the system will be from now on - and I'm very happy with the way it's all turned out

Any more feedback anybody has, now is the time to say it
Great job, it surely will help to keep things a little bit more organized.

I just have one question: is there something similar to the ID search tool in the new request section? I mean not just for searching requests but also old cuts, I can't find it and if there isn't I think that the old search tool topic should remain sticky.

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Great job, it surely will help to keep things a little bit more organized.

I just have one question: is there something similar to the ID search tool in the new request section? I mean not just for searching requests but also old cuts, I can't find it and if there isn't I think that the old search tool topic should remain sticky.

There's an easy way how to search for cuts; just have a look at the attached screengrab
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There's an easy way how to search for cuts; just have a look at the attached screengrab


thanks,didn't noticed it either .
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2wo93c2.jpg
Thanks, I totally missed it.
@Rob you did a stunning job! I really like this new layout for requesting new cuts.

I have a suggestion (but I don't know if it's already on your to-do-list): I think you could implement a button to upload a new version of the cut (and maybe make it available only for the cutter who originally cut the image). Sometimes it happens that after I upload my cuts,I find some little inaccuracies (e.g.: too much neck) that can easily be fixed. But,as of now, I can't re-upload the edited cut, unless I just post it below, in a comment.
Would it be possible to add this kind of feature?

Thanks again and keep up the good work!
This very well the new mode requests but, how many requests can be made? Is there a maximum? More than anything strictly follow the rules.

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@Rob you did a stunning job! I really like this new layout for requesting new cuts.

I have a suggestion (but I don't know if it's already on your to-do-list): I think you could implement a button to upload a new version of the cut (and maybe make it available only for the cutter who originally cut the image). Sometimes it happens that after I upload my cuts,I find some little inaccuracies (e.g.: too much neck) that can easily be fixed. But,as of now, I can't re-upload the edited cut, unless I just post it below, in a comment.
Would it be possible to add this kind of feature?

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

Editing a submission would be good, i'll add it to the list

  1. Make submissions editable
  2. Make emails optional
  3. Notifier requester and cutter when there is a comment
  4. Moderator feedback when rejecting a request
  5. Show preview of cut with ability to change background to black
  6. Highlight downloaded cuts


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@Rob you did a stunning job! I really like this new layout for requesting new cuts.

I have a suggestion (but I don't know if it's already on your to-do-list): I think you could implement a button to upload a new version of the cut (and maybe make it available only for the cutter who originally cut the image). Sometimes it happens that after I upload my cuts,I find some little inaccuracies (e.g.: too much neck) that can easily be fixed. But,as of now, I can't re-upload the edited cut, unless I just post it below, in a comment.
Would it be possible to add this kind of feature?

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

I can imagine it's a bit difficult to code, for example for deciding who can be allowed to submit cuts. You can always re-submit an amendment to a previous submission under separate cover too.



This very well the new mode requests but, how many requests can be made? Is there a maximum? More than anything strictly follow the rules.

We don't have a limit as such, but please be reasonable. If you have a large amount of requests, it's best to collect them and request them as a mixpack. Based on your most recent requests, please also try and make sure you submit the best sources available
Another idea:when doing a team request,the requester should upload a preview pic in the comment so cutters can already view the quality of the images provided.
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2wo93c2.jpg
I have just added a Mansfield Town U21, Youth, Coaches - Missing & New team request with photos attached. When completed do these also get added into the Cut Out Player Megapack on the next version update or will I have to save the cut outs in addition to the megapack in my folder directory?

Cheers
I have just added a Mansfield Town U21, Youth, Coaches - Missing & New team request with photos attached. When completed do these also get added into the Cut Out Player Megapack on the next version update or will I have to save the cut outs in addition to the megapack in my folder directory?

Cheers

When they are completed, you will receive a notification telling you about it. Any resulting cuts will be compared with the existing megapack cuts, if applicable, and any deemed as improvements (as well as any missing images) will be added to the next update pack
can anyone get the chelsea faces

The Chelsea team mostly have recent cuts from high-quality sources; they don't really need new cuts. If you manage to find new images which are genuine improvements, then I'm sure they'd be cut quite quickly
When they are completed, you will receive a notification telling you about it. Any resulting cuts will be compared with the existing megapack cuts, if applicable, and any deemed as improvements (as well as any missing images) will be added to the next update pack


that's great thanks for the quick explanation
Another idea:when doing a team request,the requester should upload a preview pic in the comment so cutters can already view the quality of the images provided.

That already does happen, unfortunately it only works for zips not rars

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Rob,I think that we should reconsider situation about putting a limit on number of requests.At start there was some order,and people was reasonable with those numbers,(maybe because there was a limit on old forum),but after some while many of them started to abuse that freedom without limits.Right now we're stucked with bunch of requests.Limiting will encourage people to make teampacks\mixpacks as they probably should do when they are asking 5 or more players from the same team,or just having 10 or more random missing\improvement requests at time.Also on that way all requesters will have equal chances to get their requests done.Maybe other cutters should give their opinion about that?

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https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
As a cutter I have to agree with Baja. There are too much requests wich we all (cutters) can't handle. Number of those requests from some users is far from reasonable.
I'm happy to take that on board and add a limit, @mons would you like any input, confirm a number, 3 or 5 or something presumably.
I'm happy to take that on board and add a limit, @mons would you like any input, confirm a number, 3 or 5 or something presumably.

That's sounds great mate.I think that 5 would be good,no matter if they are missing or improvements.Or if we need to put separate limit on each one of those two submissions then 3 sounds good.Ofc when some of those requests are completed or rejected,that means that requester have one or two less,so he can request again...Looking forward to this,and thank you very much in advance
https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
3 and 3 sound fine to me.
Fantastic stuff

Can I suggest two minor amendments?
a) possess is spelt like this (pedant alert!)
b) Could you insert another sentence along the lines of: "If you would like to make more requests, you are still able to collect source images and request them as teampacks or mixpacks". ?
Love the new request system. Good job

It's easier for everybody.
https://i.imgur.com/3kNqZ2l.jpg
Just a suggestion...

Is there any way to removing requests from the request page once complete instead of just marking the file as completed in green?

There are currently 77 pages worth of requests and it is growing quickly each day with a lot of uncompleted requests being lost inside those 77 pages. Wouldn't this help clearly display the requests outstanding and help clear down the list of 'to do's?

Thanks
AlwaysAStag
Just a suggestion...

Is there any way to removing requests from the request page once complete instead of just marking the file as completed in green?

There are currently 77 pages worth of requests and it is growing quickly each day with a lot of uncompleted requests being lost inside those 77 pages. Wouldn't this help clearly display the requests outstanding and help clear down the list of 'to do's?

Thanks
AlwaysAStag

This is quite easily doable by filtering by status, as per the attached screenshot. It's thus easily to see at a glance what still needs to be done
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Hi, I'm writing in this thread to voice my concern that comes from the new system. The system is very good, accessible and easy to understand and allows to easily request a cut and to upload the completed cut by any cutter that chooses to make it.
That's where my complaint comes from - not all the cuts have the quality of the megapack as they're done by unexperienced cutters. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that someone puts their time and effort into making the cuts that were too hard to do them myself or simply I hadn't have time to make them. But when I make I request I would like to get the cuts done to have some quality.

For example, I made two requests, provided sources good enough to make a decent cut
These requests were:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/request/1369
https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/request/2839

My requests were completed but the cuts' quality was... disputable.
First one had some weird shadows behind it and the rule of "just-to-the-chin" wasn't kept
The second one was in overall ok, but the cutter didn't frame the cut-out at all, leaving the whole torso with it's arms cut off

These cuts are bearable at best but it's deffinitely not up to the quality this megapack is associated with
I think that we should encourage people to try to pick up making cuts but this should be made under some moderation
In the past, when the requests were posted in the form of posts in the forums this wasn't an issue as if some unexperienced cutter submitted a cut that was deemed "no good enough", other cutters corrected his cuts or made them from the scratch to fit the standards. Nowadays if the cut is uploaded it goest straight into the pack as seen in the first example.

In my opinion this should be somehow moderated - f.e. I thought of a new status for the members like "cutter". Basically if someone uploades his first cut it should be reviewed by the moderator to check if it fits the standards. If the moderator decides that the person knows how to cut, he could give him a status that would allow him to upload completed requests freely. If the cut wouldn't have the needed quality the moderator should reject it, give some feedback to the cutter and the request should be left opened.

It's just my feedback both as a user and an occasional cutter
@Sopel, in order to ensure the MP images are of the sufficient quality, I personally compare every single improvement image with the previous megapack cut to ensure that the new image is a genuine improvement to the megapack, in terms of recentness, quality etc. I also center, brighten and clean snow from many, many other cuts to ensure the quality remains as high as we are all accustomed to.

On the other hand, however, ever since I have been taking care of the MP, I have tended to include all new images supplied for the very simple reason that I believe that a poor cut is better than no cut at all. When there is not an equivalent MP image, a cut has to be really atrocious for me to not consider adding it. It's not easy to strike a balance between keeping the quality of the MP high and not pissing off budding cutters, after all. On the other hand, I don't think there's anything wrong, and it happens quite frequently, that we speak to a cutter in order to assist him in improving his cutting technique and therefore increasing the quality of his output. I can name plenty of regular cutters whose work started off quite poorly but which has improved considerably since then.

Therefore, I have to disagree with your assertion that the new system is leading to all the cuts going straight into the pack, irrespective of quality. Believe you me, worse cuts than those were included in the MP, even in recent weeks.

Rest assured, however, that we moderators have already flagged this issue in many cases. Without wanting to mention names, for example I know of two separate cutters in the past couple of days whose cuts were not considered as doing justice to the source from which they are cut. The good thing about the completed requests section is that it allows me and BajaHater to see if there's a "new" name completing cuts and whose cuts may thus potentially not be as good as we are used to. What I can do, and I certainly intend to start doing more frequently, is to manually individually check all completed missing cuts on a regular basis to ensure that the sources are dealt with "appropriately" and that cases similar to yours' don't slip through the net without some sort of remedial action. I agree with your assessment for those two cuts and have put them back on the market, so to speak. We're closing in on 100 pages of images in just over 2 months, so you can appreciate there's bound to be some which get by me and BajaHater, as in these cases.

We did consider a system such as the one you're proposing when the new request system was being formulated but iirc it involved a lot more work on the programming side of things than was strictly viable and so it was shelved.

I'd like to take this opportunity to encourage you and all requesters to let us know if a source you have provided has not been cut to as good a standard as you deem possible, either via PM or through the comments system. Although if you use the latter system, please use the @name system when speaking to me, as there's no way of knowing if requests on older pages have comments added to them other than going through all the pages all the time, which I'm sure we can agree is not very practical
Hi...
I love this package, every year I downloaded and play with it
So, in order to collaborate with this package, I'm sending a humble input with a few new faces that doesn't exist in the current package.

Regards, Lichunter.
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