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Looks like us lucky people in the UK get a general election this year, I imagine it'll pass tomorrow and be official anyway.

Can't see how May is going to gain from this? I guess she is after some stability for the next 5 years rather than 3, but all I can see is another shitty coalition happening.

Thoughts?
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

We're all doomed.
Looks like us lucky people in the UK get a general election this year, I imagine it'll pass tomorrow and be official anyway.

Can't see how May is going to gain from this? I guess she is after some stability for the next 5 years rather than 3, but all I can see is another shitty coalition happening.

Thoughts?


Huh?

She has absolutely nothing to lose from this election, she'll win with a massive majority (early predictions suggest 100 seats). So she can more or less do what she wants when she wins and has to negotiate Brexit, also she won't have to stand by Cameron's manifesto promises any more, so we can expect that National Insurance hike for the self employed in next years budget, among other tax increases no doubt. As things stand she has a tiny majority and a lot of her own party have been challenging her when it comes to the Brexit negotiations.

The only damage i can see for May will be reputational, reneging on her promises that there won't be a general election will weaken her standing a little but it ultimately wont matter (aside from within the party) because the Tories will have a massive majority.

The only good to come of this will be Corbyn will finally have to step down when he loses, which will inadvertently damage May in the long term because there will actually be an opposition for a change, and Carswell will lose his seat (whilst Arron Banks also loses in the same constituency, small mercys i know)

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I can see how she is trying to capitalise on weak Labour leadership, but will the general lethargy and lashback against Brexit see an up turn in votes for the Lib Dems again? The lack of any opposition should see her through but on the back of something like Brexit I still think it is an all or nothing gamble.
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

I can see how she is trying to capitalise on weak Labour leadership, but will the general lethargy and lashback against Brexit see an up turn in votes for the Lib Dems again? The lack of any opposition should see her through but on the back of something like Brexit I still think it is an all or nothing gamble.


Lib Dems will gain a lot of votes but it'll be more at the expense of Labour than it will the Conservatives. At least UKIP will officially be dead after June 8th though, but most of those UKIP votes will now go to the Tories because May is all for hard Brexit, despite the fact she was against it before she was PM.

Also i don't think there's as much as a lashback against Brexit as we would think, much like the ref campaign last year its a lot of talk in an echo chamber, i still think a lot of people are for it and will vote Tory purely because Corbyn is the leader at Labour.

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Lib Dems will gain a lot of votes but it'll be more at the expense of Labour than it will the Conservatives. At least UKIP will officially be dead after June 8th though


Every cloud, etc.

Can Labour act fast enough to get some sort of act together? Oust Corbyn and have Dave Milliband ride in on a white charger

EDIT: Wrong brother.

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Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Every cloud, etc.

Can Labour act fast enough to get some sort of act together? Oust Corbyn and have Ed Milliband ride in on a white charger


We can but dream At this point it wouldn't even surprise me if he didn't step down after a landslide loss, he's that out of touch. Just need Clive Lewis to step up and go for the leadership.
David Milliband works with refugees ffs. Better chance of electing a nonce.
Its a sink or swim moment for anything not full-on right wing, and given how the last 10 years have been going in general for anything left of Thatcher even without the Brexit vote, I don't really fancy the chances.
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btw mental how mental some of the 'London Elites' are saying Tories will clean up in the North after UKIP's implosion.

Many people would rather die than vote Tory in the North
We can but dream At this point it wouldn't even surprise me if he didn't step down after a landslide loss, he's that out of touch. Just need Clive Lewis to step up and go for the leadership.


He might be about to lose his seat

Norwich voted Remain solidly and the constituency flipped in 2015 from Lib Dem to Labour.

What's worse for him though is a strong Conservative second place in 2015 and a reasonably strong UKIP vote (~10%) which could fuck him if the Lib Dems split the vote.

Coincidentally he's the MP in one of the two constituencies I can vote in so I guess I'm going to have to vote Labour then...
btw mental how mental some of the 'London Elites' are saying Tories will clean up in the North after UKIP's implosion.

Many people would rather die than vote Tory in the North


Because they are idiots. They still believe that Thatcher screwed them despite the truth being easily available.

They will instead vote for Labour whose leader has friends bombed the country and their neighbours and next day he kept inviting them to drinks at the House of Commons.
I'd like a link to this easily available truth, to prove myself wrong about Thatcher and the Tories.
30 things about the Tories you should know
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Because they are idiots. They still believe that Thatcher screwed them despite the truth being easily available.

They will instead vote for Labour whose leader has friends bombed the country and their neighbours and next day he kept inviting them to drinks at the House of Commons.

Mmm, this is the good shit.

Been away for a while, good to know somethings haven't changed.
Well today is local elections, wonder how they will reflect the outcome of the general election in a month.

In all honesty, I've never voted in a local election but I do vote every general election. I believe that's probably true with most of the populace but could be wrong?
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

I voted today in the local elections, may be pissing away a vote but I didn't vote for any of the big parties, but for a local one because they actually give a fuck and get stuff done.
My town chucked out Labour and elected 3 independents - just took a bit of organisation.

Anyway I know local elections don't correlate with generals but some reasonably surprising places voted Tory in Northurmberland - and they were only stopped from having overall control via a drawing of straws.

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http://i.imgur.com/u1fKVZx.jpg
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Does Theresa May know you're supposed to lie in the run up to the election? Fair play for her honesty in just how terrible everything will be for everyone.
Try this lads, brilliant. This quiz tells you who you should vote for, created by "I side with" ...


http://uk.isidewith.com

I got:

78% Labour
76% Green !!!
68% Lib Dem
48% UKIP
41% Conservative
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Try this lads, brilliant. This quiz tells you who you should vote for, created by "I side with" ...


http://uk.isidewith.com

I got:

78% Labour
76% Green !!!
68% Lib Dem
48% UKIP
41% Conservative


I (and others) have always found that one sadly lacking in originality and the questions are very leading. You are better off finding out where on the political spectrum you come from and I quite like spekr.org
I (and others) have always found that one sadly lacking in originality and the questions are very leading. You are better off finding out where on the political spectrum you come from and I quite like spekr.org


Just copied the opening bit from another forum, as soon as I tried it and it gave me 76% Green party I figured it wasn't that accurate!
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

Anybody watching the debate thing on Channel 4? First time I've ever watched one; has Jeremy Paxman always been a bit of a knob when he interviews people? I always heard he had a reputation of asking hard questions and not giving anyone an easy time but at least let them answer the bloody question without interrupting!
He used to be really good but the past few years he's been an absolute ballbag when interviewing people, Andrew Neil would have been so much better.
Asks a question and just interrupts during the answer, when asked if they can finish he just babbles
Q: How many Tory U-Turns does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Under the Strong And Stable™ leadership of Theresa May there will be no changes to any lightbulbs.

Clarification: Under the Strong And Stable™ Leadership of Theresa May all changes to lightbulbs will be means-tested.

Re-clarification: Under the Strong And Stable™ Leadership of Theresa May the number of changes to lightbulbs will be capped. Details of the cap will be announced after the General Election when we are pretty sure that voters will have forgotten about the original Tory Policy on changes to lightbulbs.
Sometimes you have to stand in the shadows; to see the light.

I'm really not feeling positive at all. So no change there then.
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Labour will win
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