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Welcome back to the Premier League. Another week, another shit ref costing us.

Haderjonaj fouled on halfway. No free-kick. Haderjonaj needs treatment. They play on (presumably exempt from actual fair play and sportsmanship, southern cunts) and win a corner. Haderjonaj has to go off, man who he would have marked scores. Cheers, Lee Probert, you pathetic little spunktrumpet.

Second ghoal - 3 offside. Fuclk off. Just fuck off.

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Haha I just came on here to see if that was you I could hear angrily typing @terriersmad
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Blimey Pulis' defensive nous has fallen off a cliff so far this season.
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Blimey Pulis' defensive nous has fallen off a cliff so far this season.


Would it be too harsh to sack him after losing to Chelsea?
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Would it be too harsh to sack him after losing to Chelsea?

I guess if they were to, West Brom fans would argue it would be the fact they seemed to have taken their foot off the gas since hitting 40 points in the back half of last season, and then not got back into the swing of things for this season.

Probably not of great help for him that their next game is at Spurs.
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Haha I just came on here to see if that was you I could hear angrily typing @terriersmad

Mate, it's unbelievable. Every week. Kachunga has a good goal ruled out, costs us two points. Mounié nearly has his head taken off, not even a card never mind the straight red it should have been. Fer deliberately knees our keeper in the face when the ball's in his hands and only a booking. Offside goals given. Players cut down when clean through and nothing given. Martial only booked for a kick and a punch off the ball - Smith booked for being in the way, I assume. Schindler sent off for nothing. McLean only booked after sprinting 80 yards and two-footing Ince. No foul on Haderjonaj, offside for second goal. By my reckoning, they've been responsible for a 6-goal swing against us in the first 12 games of the season - at least 4 points. We've not had a single decision yet this season and we're a third of the way through. We'll lose this afternoon because the officials have fucked us over with both goals along with that frankly fucking stupid rule about players having to go off (same for all, I know). Probert does his job and it's 0-0 10 v 11. But no. That's too much to ask from these arrogant knobcheeses who are only interested in keeping the money men happy.
As I say that, Probert finally sends Francis off. After his mate the 4th official told him to. When he'd been looking straight at the obvious booking and decided that despite the fact he flew into VLP and got nowhere near the ball, that didn't quantify a foul. I've had more intelligent things come out of my arse than Lee Probert.
I guess if they were to, West Brom fans would argue it would be the fact they seemed to have taken their foot off the gas since hitting 40 points in the back half of last season, and then not got back into the swing of things for this season.

Probably not of great help for him that their next game is at Spurs.


4-0 now, and the owner is there too in a rare visit. Doesn't bode well for the bus driver.
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2-0 to the referee, 4-0 to our own suicidal defending. And our inability to put a bloody decent ball into the penalty area when we have 3 6'3" plus strikers waiting in there. One decent ball and it's a goal.

On the plus side, none of our players are going to be kneecapped by the bent Russian mafia man who owns them. Said it before, will say it again: fairytale my arse. Come back when they've got to this division like we have and without breaking FFP and human rights laws.
Salah is the fucking man, knew he'd be good but didn't expect this.
Well... that went downhill fast.
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Paul Pogba

Two players away from full strength. Bailly and Jones.

On a non-United note, Sean Dyche is doing such a great job at Burnley. It's remarkable what they've done so far this season and I hope they keep it up. Also good to see that Eddie Howe has turned Bournemouth around after their poor start. Had no doubt that he would, future England manager I reckon.
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To be fair to our mob, we didn't look that bad against a side featuring two players that cost more than our entire starting line-up by themselves, but the second half just seemed to get away from us very quickly.

Saying that, our recent uninspiring form means we need to be getting points off Watford and West Brom.
4-0 now, and the owner is there too in a rare visit. Doesn't bode well for the bus driver.

The odd thing is that if WBA had been managed by anyone else, Pulis might be tempting man to call at this point. He probably deserves a smidge more time, but I can see why WBA fans think he's had enough time to this point. They seem to be the team that limps over the line after getting 40 points one year, then doesn't shake the hangover. Which kinda makes the case for why Watford like changing managers when they do that.

To weigh in on events in Dorset, I don't think Wilson was offside before his second goal, but a part of me wasn't entirely convinced it was a free-kick against Mooy in the first place. The one from Daniels before the first goal was a definite foul, but for all Bournemouth goals, the defending was pretty poor.
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Good to see Benitez back to his best and firing up the PR machine - such organisation skills and efficiency when it comes to blaming someone else.


Isaac Hayden played all right - but he seems to offer no actual protection when Newcastle are under pressure. He seemed to disappear against Bournemouth and did so again. Lejeune still looks a donkey to me - numerous bits of questionable defending. Jacob Murphy is still a raffle winner. Shelvey actually ran a football game (for 30mins) at least - one of his few games where he doesn't flatter to deceive. Gayle looks sharp.

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To weigh in on events in Dorset, I don't think Wilson was offside before his second goal, but a part of me wasn't entirely convinced it was a free-kick against Mooy in the first place. The one from Daniels before the first goal was a definite foul, but for all Bournemouth goals, the defending was pretty poor.

Wilson was offside. Not convinced it's a foul either, but then we can't expect that to go our way at the moment and I have more time for those errors than offside decisions - more human error/judgement. We played the offside trap perfectly. In any event, there are three in red and black offside. I'm mystified how the bloke who is there entirely to distract the defence can't be deemed to be interfering with play, and how a bloke who sticks the ball in the net from an offside position when the ball is played isn't offside (although there's every chance the two are linked, with the bloke also being there to distract the linesman). Whole law needs scrapping and starting again - I know I'm like a broken record but it really is a complete mess. If you're in an offside position when it's played in, you're offside. End of.

Daniels was lucky to be on the field. First view it was a definite yellow. Second view I'm leaning towards red, the way he dives in and traps Hadergjonaj's ankle. Such is life that Probert's view was obscured and the linesman was, at best, picking his nose and chewing it at the time. No idea how the linesman missed it. No excuses there. Stupid rule comes into operation that means Hadergjonaj can't defend the corner, we're punished doubly by the mistake. Serious criticism for Bournemouth for not even having the sporting nature to knock the ball out. I may be the last of a dying breed, but when an opponent is injured and you know about it, you knock it out of play and let them receive treatment, so long as it's obvious they're not taking the piss.

Anyway, it was our fault we eventually conceded 4. No excuses for Malone pissing about, no excuses for the 4th. We threw caution to the wind because of the circumstances and didn't break down a flat back 10 that broke with pace. We were playing 1-4-5 (because we had to) and didn't create any proper chances. We miss Kasey Palmer's invention and Kachunga looks out of his depth. We didn't get the ball in with real quality (recurring theme) and Depoitre and Mounié were starved of service. We cocked up taking off Williams and ended up horribly unbalanced. Next week we should at least have Schindler, Hogg and Palmer back, with Hefele and Stankovic close enough that Cranie might find himself back to being backup to the backup. In January we need a creative winger who can put a cross in, a central defender and a quality holding midfielder to operate alongside Mooy and Hogg/Williams. I think that covers it.
So, Pulis is back to bus driving.

Michael O'Neill was favourite for the Scotland job, but is now favourite to replace Pulis. Derek McInnes is next, followed by Allardyce and Pardew.

Hardly going to be a season of good cheer in West Brom this Christmas I think!

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Pulis had to go, 2 wins in 20+ games was it....terrible. He might never have been relegated from the Premier League yet but that's where West Brom were heading under him.
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Pardew seems to be the early favourite. Would be a fairly curious appointment - did well initially at Palace to get them out of danger, then seemed to double back and effectively helped start the problems they're in now. Bit like Pulis, really.

Maybe that's just how it is for the majority of Premier League clubs - just keep out of the danger zone for as long as possible.
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Thoughts on the Niasse decision? For me, slightly hard done to. Definitely exaggerated the contact, but Dann did step across him and there was contact blocking Niasse off. Not sure it's a penalty either, to be fair, and I can see why the FA concluded he did dive.
Thoughts on the Niasse decision? For me, slightly hard done to. Definitely exaggerated the contact, but Dann did step across him and there was contact blocking Niasse off. Not sure it's a penalty either, to be fair, and I can see why the FA concluded he did dive.


I agree it's harsh. Not a penalty but not a proper dive.

Will be interesting to see who else they punish soon...
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Trust the talk of takeovers to coincide with form going to shit.
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United playing like Mourniho's title winning teams. Only problem is that City are a level above anyone else so they just won't beat them to it.
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Pretty shitty day of football today.
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Fair result in the end but disappointing to not hold on, Moreno impressed me tonight as well considering how poor he was Tuesday night.
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Anyway can't score, can't defend, and Mo Diame was our best outfield player
Don't think anyone who started that game was any good (subs are irrelevant because they all came on too late to do anything). I don't know if from the highlights the key factor was Watford playing well - except perhaps Gray, who should really have got 3 or more - or Newcastle being top-to-bottom garbage. Could well be both.

Seemed a bit of a weird day all round. Man Utd's goal was a bit of a joke, WBA taking a point from Spurs and arguably having better chances to win was a turn up for the books, and the referee in the Swansea v Bournemouth game was pretty bad.
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We weren't good enough yesterday in my opinion. Think the subs should have been made ten minutes earlier. Bakayoko was useless second half, and I didn't understand his urge to go into the box the whole time.

Fluke goal saved us, we should have done much much better.
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Southampton 1-0 up v Everton.

Southampton are pretty dire, so Everton must be really bad.
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Gutted. Deserved more. Man City created nothing of their own and for all their possession didn't look like scoring. Until Mr Pawson gifted them a penalty for what was probably a foul but definitely outside the box (until a little rat threw himself inside from minimal contact).

Man City are probably the most cynical side I've ever seen. Money might buy good players, but it certainly doesn't buy class or respect. They walked off without shaking hands (although considering how chaotic the end of the game was, I think there's an excuse there to be honest - Mr Pawson really covered himself in glory by mishandling a dead straightforward situation). Their play was punctuated by cynical fouls - De Bruyne lucky not to see more than one yellow card for a number of cynical fouls breaking up the play and the most cynical handball of the season so far to stop a break out, Walker somehow getting away with almost murdering Van La Parra, Delph not being booked for a cynical lunge on Ince. When VLP was down injured they made one of the most cynical moves I think I'll ever see - twice they motioned that they were going to put the ball out, only to bring it forward and play on 40 yards up the pitch.

The VLP red card is also a joke. Handbags. Nothing in it. It's a silly little push to the chest. But Pawson's mishandling was atrocious. Speak to them both or book them both. To book the instigator and send off someone for something that isn't a sending off is a joke. But then, that's refereeing at this level - biased to the big club. Mr Pawson is a cheat.
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