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How many stickies do there need to be? Plus, there's 3 or 4 further unstickied threads with more views than this one - why shouldn't they be stickied as well? A line has to be drawn somewhere tbh...

That said, I'm happy to sticky it if more people deem it worthy of such

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I've just recently noticed that there's some new cutters who could've used this thread and without it being sticky it's easy to miss. I agree that there's already quite a few stickies though and having too many of them kinda removes the purpose of them, but I also think that this thread is essential for new cutters and should be stickied as such. But let's see if anyone else shares my opinion or if the only one thinking so.

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I see what you mean. Ideally it'd almost be near the top of the unstickied threads, but it's not always the case.

I've stickied it for the time being to make it more evident and hopefully attract more new cutters with the advent of FM15
I am trying to cut images without background like this and i cant, refine edge on photoshop cant work easily.

http://www.ergotelis.gr/assets/players/71287-gentsoglou.png


Can anyone give me a tip how to work images like them?
Refine edge for these should be the best thing possible normally. How do you use the technique ?
Could i get some feedback on my cutting. I used CS2 with the plug-ins from page one and using the extract tool.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvements/8083.png - Original

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvements/47035191.png - Original

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvements/47041015.png - Original
Could i get some feedback on my cutting. I used CS2 with the plug-ins from page one and using the extract tool.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvements/8083.png - Original

Ciro is done much better than the one you've done him recently.I'm not the best with hair so this one looks very good,after checking on dark background.One of the "problem" I saw on most images from you is that you are leaving too much empty space between top of the head and up edge of the cut.In the future try to make them as much closer you can to the up edge.
http://i.imgur.com/6F0ills.png
https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
Could i get some feedback on my cutting. I used CS2 with the plug-ins from page one and using the extract tool.

They are quite good and don't need that much of improvement to be honest. As BajaHater said, crop the images so there's very little empty area left on top and there was also a little bit of snow left on the first two images. Those are easily fixed with the Clone Stamp Tool though. Just lock transparent pixels and use Clone Stamp tool in Darken mode to darken that little bit of snow and you are good to go really. There was a little bit of leftovers from the background too, which ain't very visible in 180x180 pixels, but generally speaking you should zoom in and check if there's some. There's a lot around the head in the second cut (can be seen on a dark background), altough it can't be seen very well in a smaller size. You also want to rotate the image if the head is tilted sideways.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvement%20Mixpack%20Thread%201%20-%20examples/83000005.png http://s25.postimg.org/i44i03mij/83000005.png

Here's an example from your mix pack. The second one is a bit fuzzy because I had to overscale it after croping the empty space, but I suppose you get the point.

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Adding to what both Jubez and Baja have said, do avoid the chicken neck effect, i.e. Having a neck without including a little bit of collar.

Also, if you have a look at the image posted by Baja, I strongly suggest that you use black and grey transparency instead of white and grey, as the former let you see at a glance whether the cut contains any snow...

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I am trying to cut images without background like this and i cant, refine edge on photoshop cant work easily.

http://www.ergotelis.gr/assets/players/71287-gentsoglou.png


Can anyone give me a tip how to work images like them?


Acceptable?
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/tuodi8shi/71287-gentsoglou.png

Yes

After you've got all these tips,now is the best to re-done that mixpack again by using them
https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
Thanks for the helpful tips gents i'll have a blast at that mixpack again later today
Thanks for the helpful tips gents i'll have a blast at that mixpack again later today

Also,if you can't handle with every image,then do what you can,and send me back those you can't.
https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
Also,if you can't handle with every image,then do what you can,and send me back those you can't.


I've had another go at Improvement mixpack thread 1. I left out 8083, that hair is tough and if someone's already done no point in me only getting a half good cut. I got a different source image for 23063755 which i think is a better image than the one in the zip file. One of the images gave me some trouble, see what you think. let me know what i could do to improve it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvement%20Mixpack%20Thread%201%20-%20examples%20v2/33008085.png Original. its better than the one in the database 33008085

Here's the link to download all the images. If you guys are happy with them i'll post this link on the Teampack request thread and move on to another set of images
They certainly look much better and I think tuodi8shi can take the pack off the request list Perhaps you could post the 8083 request in the improvement image request thread as a stand-alone request.

A general comment - always try to center your images when possible. A good way to do so is by ensuring that the distance between the ears and the site of the cut is the same on both sides. Also, some of the images could be brightened a little bit more.

This is merely nit-picking, however, and these are things I can take care of when checking the images before inclusion into the MP. Great work and welcome to the cutting team - looking forward to seeing more of your work
They certainly look much better and I think tuodi8shi can take the pack off the request list Perhaps you could post the 8083 request in the improvement image request thread as a stand-alone request.

A general comment - always try to center your images when possible. A good way to do so is by ensuring that the distance between the ears and the site of the cut is the same on both sides. Also, some of the images could be brightened a little bit more.

This is merely nit-picking, however, and these are things I can take care of when checking the images before inclusion into the MP. Great work and welcome to the cutting team - looking forward to seeing more of your work


Thanks mons
I've had another go at Improvement mixpack thread 1. I left out 8083, that hair is tough and if someone's already done no point in me only getting a half good cut. I got a different source image for 23063755 which i think is a better image than the one in the zip file. One of the images gave me some trouble, see what you think. let me know what i could do to improve it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73244893/sortitoutsi%20examples/Improvement%20Mixpack%20Thread%201%20-%20examples%20v2/33008085.png Original. its better than the one in the database 33008085

Here's the link to download all the images. If you guys are happy with them i'll post this link on the Teampack request thread and move on to another set of images

Now all looks much better at my opinion,and also 8083 wich you've done yesterday (that's Ciro Ferrara) is good.Only guy you've cut too much details is 5780932 and he ain't be improvement,so I'll save him for some future mixpack.All the others are improvements If you decide to do more improvement mixpacks,just let me know,so I can tell you wich images you shouldn't do,and again if someone is too hard just leave him,let me know,and I'll save him for same as 5780932

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https://i.imgur.com/7TeM2re.jpg
Now all looks much better at my opinion,and also 8083 wich you've done yesterday (that's Ciro Ferrara) is good.Only guy you've cut too much details is 5780932 and he ain't be improvement,so I'll save him for some future mixpack.All the others are improvements If you decide to do more improvement mixpacks,just let me know,so I can tell you wich images you shouldn't do,and again if somone is too hard just leave him,let me know,and I'll save him for same as 5780932


Will do and thanks
How to reduce the image size from ~100kb to ~50kb without hurting the quality?

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How to reduce the image size from ~100kb to ~50kb without hurting the quality?

At least Photoshop asks if you want to use compression when you are saving in a png format. It reduces the file size to about half, which in case cut outs is around 50kB.
At least Photoshop asks if you want to use compression when you are saving in a png format. It reduces the file size to about half, which in case cut outs is around 50kB.

http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/10/10/2014-10-10_-055854.png
I can't see the option of it... I am using Photoshop CS5
Got to image and then image size, make sure your setup looks like this
http://s11.postimg.org/xgwnninqb/image.png

Hope this works
Can anyone remind me of the trick to fix the size of pics on the Northern Ireland website?
http://www.irishfa.com/international/squad-profiles/profile/2050/dean-shiels/
Pics are available of all nations on the Uefa site but some missing that are available here.
Can anyone remind me of the trick to fix the size of pics on the Northern Ireland website?
http://www.irishfa.com/international/squad-profiles/profile/2050/dean-shiels/
Pics are available of all nations on the Uefa site but some missing that are available here.

http://www.irishfa.com/fs/img/library/rs-150x168n/dean-shiels-290714wc.png
delete size info from url and change png to jpg
http://www.irishfa.com/fs/img/library/dean-shiels-290714wc.jpg

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Is there a step by step tutorial for Photoshop CS2 please
Here my first official cut out try:

Which one fits more the wished style?

http://imahost.net/images/13134369fi.png http://imahost.net/images/13134369se.png

ID: 13134369

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I moved your post here to avoid cluttering the other thread

For a first time cutter, that's very good. Ideally we prefer the cut to have some collar (like #2) but with the chin as close as possible to the edge of the cut (like #1), but that's not a deal-breaker. The cut's not too bad, although there is some stray colour around the neck which can be easily fixed by watching the remove snow video in the OP. Also, pay attention to the ears, there's small bits of the edges which are transparent, and that's not ideal.

Altogether, however, a very promising debut and I hope we see a lot more of you in the future

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I am getting a faint border around my cuts please can anyone tell me how to get rid of this.
There's a video on how to remove snow in the OP, that could do the trick
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