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I was talking to a few friends of mine recently and they were saying how bad of a season Manchester United have had.

Now I don't think our football has been marvellous all season, we've been quite inconsistent at times, but I think if City weren't on another planet this season then it wouldn't look so bad surely?? So I did some number crunching and worked out how many points the previous 25 league winners had amassed.

Currently United have 77 points with 3 games to play against Brighton (away), Watford (home) and West Ham (away). I feel we'll pick up 6 points from those 3 games tbh which would see us finish with a respectable 83 points, not too bad. Especially when you consider that points tally would have seen us win the league title in 8 of the last 25 seasons.

If we manage to win all 3 of our remaining games and finish on 86 points that would make us champions in 11 of the previous 25 seasons. Almost 50% of the Premier League seasons we'd have won the league, so it begs the question if we win those final 3 games has our season been as bad as some people say??


Year & Points Total
92-93 - 84pts Man Utd
93-94 - 92pts Man Utd
94-95 - 89pts Blackburn Rovers
95-96 - 82pts Man Utd
96-97 - 75pts Man Utd
97-98 - 78pts Arsenal
98-99 - 79pts Man Utd
99-00 - 91pts Man Utd
00-01 - 80pts Man Utd
01-02 - 87pts Arsenal
02-03 - 83pts Man Utd
03-04 - 90pts Arsenal
04-05 - 95pts Chelsea
05-06 - 91pts Chelsea
06-07 - 89pts Man Utd
07-08 - 87pts Man Utd
08-09 - 90pts Man Utd
09-10 - 86pts Chelsea
10-11 - 80pts Man Utd
11-12 - 89pts Man City
12-13 - 89pts Man Utd
13-14 - 86pts Man City
14-15 - 87pts Chelsea
15-16 - 81pts Leicester City
16-17 - 93pts Chelsea


Premier League Titles By Points
75pts - 1
78pts - 1
79pts - 1
80pts - 2
81pts - 1
82pts - 1
83pts - 1
84pts - 1
86pts - 2
87pts - 3
89pts - 4
90pts - 2
91pts - 2
92pts - 1
93pts - 1
95pts - 1


Personally I'd say our season, if we finish second, would be about a 7.5/8 out of 10.
Arsenal

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7/10 if we hold on to top 4.
6/10

Absolutely awful for the vast majority of the season. A good six weeks in spring though.
I'll be slightly more generous and say 7/10 for the black & whites, because we don't really have the most amazing squad, and the spring run that booked survival has been fantastic, but the run of form between Halloween and Christmas was soul crushingly shit, and the fact beating Arsenal has been the cue to slack off is disappointing.
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0/10

maybe a 1 cause Arsene's finally leaving and Mesut signed a new deal

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I'll be slightly more generous and say 7/10 for the black & whites, because we don't really have the most amazing squad, and the spring run that booked survival has been fantastic, but the run of form between Halloween and Christmas was soul crushingly shit, and the fact beating Arsenal has been the cue to slack off is disappointing.


We're 90% likely to end a season on a five game losing run. - Big issue that it may carry into the new season. - And could easily finish 15th or so. For what it's worth we got 46 points the last time we came up under Hughton/Pardew. And got 41 points the Europa season. And 49 points the season Remy, Sissoko, Debuchy etc. clocked off after Christmas.

I think the squad is an excuse - the vast majority have played in the top flight reasonably successfully or are easily good enough to do so. Pretty much every member of the squad would get offers to stay in the PL.
I suppose in truth, my expectations were hurt by a summer window that promised more than it did. Maybe its a sign of not paying attention, I don't really think many of our summer arrivals have made that big an impact, although Murphy and Lejeune have had their moments. Dubravka and Kenedy in January have certainly been better acquisitions (although we've just about got away with Slimani for Mitrovic, which was definitely an error, and highlights someone better than Gayle is a summer must).

I was happy enough to scrape 17th given my natural pessimism, which is a mindset that carried on first when the form collapsed before Christmas, and then we drew our way through January and February. From that point, I'll take it. But I do agree that this conclusion to the season isn't good enough. Spurs and Chelsea have shown somewhat indifferent form, so I think we might get something off one of them, but they're not first choice games to snap out of this. I'm also aware a hangover can go on. It looks from the outside as though Stoke, WBA and Southampton all slept through the final part of last season and none of them have really woken up for this one.

Saying that, Burnley had a crap second half last season and are now Europa League bound, while Watford rarely win games in April/May but seem to dust themselves off quickly enough, so... who knows. Maybe predicting the future based on this period is a totally fucking pointless exercise.

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Yeah Pards certainly turned round some awful ends to the season and we're normally fine by September.

I know I sound like a broken record - but I feel like Newcastle are just a PR machine for Benitez. He's the first manager ever to need 'talks' every season. He has a contract - he should honour it or offer his resignation. For example do you expect to hear Chris Hughton imply he will leave if conditions aren't met?

Succeed and it's all down to Benitez. Failure and it's Ashley.
5/10 I guess. The FA Cup win isn't enough to make this a good season. We had to finish in the top 4 and failed to do so, no player really shown anything special and the manager was a mess.

This summer will be massive for us and I really do hope we can get our shit together.
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