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So I just ordered FM2020 for store pick up. I figured I would save some time and start downloading the premier league logos so they download while im out picking it up, so I come here only to find out some copy right BS has gone down, fair enough I guess.

( Sidenote = To all the mods in the comments talking down to people and telling them ' read the comments first instead of asking for the download link over and over again ,....how about just have the post and all posts like it removed seeing as they are now nothing but time wasting diversions? instead of talking to people like they are children, not everybody knows what has gone down because they dont spend as much time here a you )

It would REALLY bug me if i had to play this game with those crappy fake not even close logos, is there anyway around it? would an old logo back from 2019 work? ( are the 2019 packs even downloadable? )

what can I do? what have YOU done? Thanks.
So I just ordered FM2020 for store pick up. I figured I would save some time and start downloading the premier league logos so they download while im out picking it up, so I come here only to find out some copy right BS has gone down, fair enough I guess.

( Sidenote = To all the mods in the comments talking down to people and telling them ' read the comments first instead of asking for the download link over and over again ,....how about just have the post and all posts like it removed seeing as they are now nothing but time wasting diversions? instead of talking to people like they are children, not everybody knows what has gone down because they dont spend as much time here a you )

It would REALLY bug me if i had to play this game with those crappy fake not even close logos, is there anyway around it? would an old logo back from 2019 work? ( are the 2019 packs even downloadable? )

what can I do? what have YOU done? Thanks.

What logo copyright issue are you talking about? Not sure I'm aware there's an issue at all

Furthermore, I'm not sure that tone and attitude are warranted when coming in here asking for help.
What logo copyright issue are you talking about? Not sure I'm aware there's an issue at all

Furthermore, I'm not sure that tone and attitude are warranted when coming in here asking for help.


Im talking about the posts saying you can download 2020 logo packs but no longer offer the download link due to copyright claims. If you look at the comments, you will see people asking where the link is, and the mods getting frustrated telling them to read where it says they no longer offer said links. My issue is, why are the posts even up at all if the packs are no longer on offer, it misleads people who do not know about the copyright issues and makes them waste time by looking and asking. These posts should be taken down, or said mods need to realise that it is their own fault for allowing the now useless posts to stay up, thus misleading people who are obviously confused, rightly so.

My theory is that they leave the posts up to bring traffic to this website, because that is the main reason people come here, for the packs.

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Im talking about the posts saying you can download 2020 logo packs but no longer offer the download link due to copyright claims. If you look at the comments, you will see people asking where the link is, and the mods getting frustrated telling them to read where it says they no longer offer said links. My issue is, why are the posts even up at all if the packs are no longer on offer, it misleads people who do not know about the copyright issues and makes them waste time by looking and asking. These posts should be taken down, or said mods need to realise that it is their own fault for allowing the now useless posts to stay up, thus misleading people who are obviously confused, rightly so.

My theory is that they leave the posts up to bring traffic to this website, because that is the main reason people come here, for the packs.

I am aware of no posts on this site "saying you can download 2020 logo packs but no longer offer the download link due to copyright claims" Are you sure you're not mistaking us for some other sites?

We have a number of logopacks available for download here - knock yourself out

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I am aware of no posts on this site "saying you can download 2020 logo packs but no longer offer the download link due to copyright claims" Are you sure you're not mistaking us for some other sites?

We have a number of logopacks available for download here - knock yourself out

yeah, for 83p a month. Not everybody wants to put bank details on a website thats not a legit company and run by fans of the game. Would you give ME your details? did not think so.
If you are a Premium Member then we thank you for your existing donation and we will sell you the game at exactly what it costs us to buy it, giving it to you as cheap as possible and making no profit ourselves.

If you cared about giving people it as cheap as possible, you would not charge £37 and would not have closed my thread telling people where to get it cheaper. If you feel you deserve money for the work you do then that is your issue not ours. Stop trying to suck money from people.

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yeah, for 83p a month. Not everybody wants to put bank details on a website thats not a legit company and run by fans of the game. Would you give ME your details? did not think so.

Your initial point was that we no longer offer 2020 logo packs. Could you please identify where you got this from?

The metallic logopack is available to download for free via torrent. If you don't want to download via torrent, there are a number of mirror sites available from which you can download it and also other logo packs.

83p per month is to get premium membership to directly download the various megapacks through sortitoutsi itself. Bandwidth and file hosting isn't cheap, and we all do this voluntarily, so anybody who wants to contribute to the ongoing availability of the site is most welcome. Payment is via PayPal and secure, and many people have signed up for premium membership without any issues, so it's not entirely fair to describe us a "not a legit company".

If you don't want to sign up for premium membership, it's entirely up to you, which is why we have various other download methods available, as outlined above.
In fact, can you PROVE that this website is actually not buying it for cheap and selling it for £37? How do we know for sure you have simply not paid for one version and copy it every time you make a sale? please prove that you pay exactly what you sell it for because selling it with no profit in mind like you claim seems like a pointless waste of time and I wonder why you even do it all.

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Your initial point was that we no longer offer 2020 logo packs. Could you please identify where you got this from?

perhaps I did mistake it for another site, but i keep getting links to different places and its the same outcome, its either no longer there or comes with a price when i do find it.
In fact, can you PROVE that this website is actually not buying it for cheap and selling it for £37? How do we know for sure you have simply not paid for one version and copy it every time you make a sale? please prove that you pay exactly what you sell it for because selling it with no profit in mind like you claim seems like a pointless waste of time and I wonder why you even do it all.


Troll? mons, think this guy is just on a wind up, and willfully ignoring your polite answers saying he can get what he wants for free.

Still hasn't provided a link to the download he's having trouble with.

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Im guessing i could avoid all THIS bollocks with a premium membership right? - https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/download/3

Look at all those downloads i'd have to do, plus im pretty sure you have to pay the filesharing site to get it done quicker, but if i paid YOU, i bet it would be easier right? one simple quick download instead of 12 or 13, just face it, you are trying to squeeze money from fans while claiming you aint.
If you are a Premium Member then we thank you for your existing donation and we will sell you the game at exactly what it costs us to buy it, giving it to you as cheap as possible and making no profit ourselves.

If you cared about giving people it as cheap as possible, you would not charge £37 and would not have closed my thread telling people where to get it cheaper. If you feel you deserve money for the work you do then that is your issue not ours. Stop trying to suck money from people.

I closed that thread myself because I didn't fancy it going down the road this one is going, with false and belligerent accusations aimed at discrediting this site. If I really wanted to "suppress" it, I would have deleted it, no? I'm sure it's available for cheaper from other places, but that is what it costs us to get a copy. Nobody's trying to "suck money from people", as you mistakenly infer.

For somebody who's just registered on our forums today to come out all guns blazing isn't something which I'm too happy about, and I'm not convinced you're not somebody with a grudge trying to stir some trouble. What is known as a troll, essentially. We're a nice friendly community and if you don't like something in here, then either voice your concerns in a constructive and educated manner or go elsewhere.
Im guessing i could avoid all THIS bollocks with a premium membership right? - https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/download/3

Look at all those downloads i'd have to do, plus im pretty sure you have to pay the filesharing site to get it done quicker, but if i paid YOU, i bet it would be easier right? one simple quick download instead of 12 or 13, just face it, you are trying to squeeze money from fans while claiming you aint.


That's a 7.1GB file mate! Of course it's got to be split up into multiple sharing files. It's not designed to squeeze money from fans, it's the infrastructure around hosting a file of that size. So far your only contribution to this site has been an attack, so I'm not sure where all this has come from when us content creators are just trying to make the game better.
In the time it took me to post all that ^, it became clear that the poster was not trying to engage with us in a serious or genuine manner. Like @Rowan said, a troll.

So that's the end of that

I'm sure he'll be back with another username, trying to push the same agenda
Just a plain weirdo. We probably shouldn't have fed the troll.

That's what you get sometimes.

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Just a plain weirdo. We probably shouldn't have fed the troll.

That's what you get sometimes.

It looked quite clear he was out to stir trouble from his first post but it's happened before that people get the wrong end of the stick and I thought I could genuinely engage with him. However, there are none so blind as those who will not see
I'm going to answer his posts for the sake of posterity and in case somebody else is putting forward the same questions.



perhaps I did mistake it for another site, but i keep getting links to different places and its the same outcome, its either no longer there or comes with a price when i do find it.

Perhaps you should have asked on the other site or wherever/whoever you got those links from.




In fact, can you PROVE that this website is actually not buying it for cheap and selling it for £37? How do we know for sure you have simply not paid for one version and copy it every time you make a sale? please prove that you pay exactly what you sell it for because selling it with no profit in mind like you claim seems like a pointless waste of time and I wonder why you even do it all.

The way Steam works is that the same copy of the game cannot be used with different Steam accounts, thus rendering your whole accusation of us getting one copy and using it every time we sell the game utterly mistaken.

Let me quote below the whole section in our shop from which you quoted from so selectively:

At sortitoutsi.net we try and offer the very best deals on all Football Manager Games and Products. We're not a big business trying to make millions of pounds, but if you buy from us a small percentage of your purchase will go towards keeping the site running and all of its content available to you year on year.

If you are a Premium Member then we thank you for your existing donation and we will sell you the game at exactly what it costs us to buy it, giving it to you as cheap as possible and making no profit ourselves.

If you are not a premium member then we will make a small profit of about £3-5 on the sale of the game. If you sign up for premium membership at the same time as buying the game you'll get a massive discount on both


I don't think there's anything in there which is unreasonable at all. If you're not ready to do so, there are plenty other places online where you can buy the game, and doing so would not stop you from enjoying the many graphic packs (and more) provided on sortitoutsi. I would wager that most if not all FM fan sites operate under similar methods, to be honest...
Basically he's just a complete dick and to be fair we've not had one on here for a while so it was nice seeing someone make an absolute fool of themselves.

I bet he's also a Tottenham fan.
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Basically he's just a complete dick and to be fair we've not had one on here for a while so it was nice seeing someone make an absolute fool of themselves.

I bet he's also a Tottenham fan.

Now, now, there was no need to take it so far
Now, now, there was no need to take it so far


I do apologise to all other Tottenham fans on this site so feel free to mock my own team Arsenal who sadly are not as good as we once was...

The table doesn't lie.
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Keep up the good work fellas. He is probably the same mentality as a shoplifter, thinks he can just get stuff for free.

Ignore the cockwomble
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