I don't think I have felt as poisonous, venomous or angry about anything political in years. And my social media is full of people telling me to calm down, to develop perspective, to accept the result... frankly, these clueless cunts can and should fuck off.

#335522 EU Referendum

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By Shola | On 22 June 2016 - 23:33 PM BST

C'mon mate that was bad - are you really suggesting that the UK isn't a democracy?

Are you suggesting that it is?

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By Franck | On 23 June 2016 - 00:15 AM BST

This referendum will become a textbook example of why referendums are a terrible idea in the future.

Yeah. Scotland's was a bit of a shitshow all round but this is next level.

I've heard Sinn Fein suggesting that they might push for a referendum on leaving the UK and rejoining the Republic of Ireland. Bet that will only go well.

#335455 EU Referendum

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I have absolutely no idea whose winning. I'm also not bold enough to predict, given I genuinely thought Scotland would vote to leave in 2014, and that we'd get a Labour-lead coalition after last year's election, and never expected Trump to go far, so predicting seems like a fallacy. Also doesn't help the opinion polls are utterly incoherent - and I used to work for one of them, so I really feel like they're bollocks - and both campaigns have been utterly hateworthy.

I'm voting Remain - Leave lost me weeks ago.

#334806 Nous sommes les champions... (Euro 2016)

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Been excellent so far. Keep it up.

#334770 The General Games Discussion Thread.

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I agree its a bit repetitive at times but I do find the stories interesting, the main protagonist likeable and enjoy enough of it to keep me going. I think The Last of Us is the best Naughty Dog game, but they're still very good.

I'm aware there's a few things different for Uncharted 4 - it looks like a different world entirely, and there appear to be a few things removed from it. But we'll see how it is when and if I can be arsed to get it.

#334769 Euro 2016 tournament thread

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Doesn't seem like something that will abate any time soon - there's a fair few articles online mentioning that the Croatian FA and fans currently hate one another, and a rumour has been circulating their fans were planning something like this to get them fined.

#334645 The General Games Discussion Thread.

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Not been gaming for a while but been having a go with the PS4 remasters of Uncharted 1, 2 and 3. Been great fun so far.

#334407 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread

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I swear it was mentioned somewhere Liverpool might have to swap venues for their game with Burnley to it being a Burnley home game, as Liverpool's new stand won't be finished in time.

By Shedender | On 15 June 2016 - 13:07 PM BST

It's days like today you realise you're not a Premier League club for at least a season.

Yeah.

Whose idea was it to put the FL fixtures out next week?

#334408 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread

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I swear it was mentioned somewhere Liverpool might have to swap venues for their game with Burnley to it being a Burnley home game, as Liverpool's new stand won't be finished in time.

By Shedender | On 15 June 2016 - 13:07 PM BST

It's days like today you realise you're not a Premier League club for at least a season.

Yeah.

Whose idea was it to put the FL fixtures out next week?

#334233 Euro 2016 tournament thread

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The fact there's been fighting in Lille being Russian and English/Welsh fans hardly inspired confidence.

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Thinking about it, a lot of the attacking players for England are through the middle, and only Sterling - whose form has fallen off a cliff - is a natural wideman. So someone has to be shoehorned into that role. I thought Lallana was the obvious option, and he wasn't terrible, but his finishing was. Milner is too defensive now, Rooney, Vardy, Sturridge and Alli all look more comfortable in the middle, and Henderson and Wilshere feels like an experiment too far.

I don't know what the obvious fix is, really. Ordinarily I'd say its changing the formation, but the players look better suited to something like a 4-3-3.

Also, this goes without saying, but Kane on corners? Really?

By K3VO | On 10 June 2016 - 08:42 AM BST

Not underwhelmed, but I guess being older and having more 'responsibility' as an adult I've maybe not got caught up in the buzz surrounding a big tournament. I've also just started a new job on Tuesday, so I won't be able to watch as many games as I could have before.

Ireland to win it though

I kinda get that, but not out of being older as I was pretty excited for the World Cup, even despite all the bollocks before it.

Certainly, England v Wales at 2pm... fuck's sake. That's the game I was hoping to see, if only as I have been saying for months I think someone shit like Simon Church will score a winner for Wales in that game.

Its not been helped by how bizarrely violent its been. Hopefully UEFA will do more than fine the Russians for last night's behaviour.

By .verse | On 12 June 2016 - 10:00 AM BST

Also the English commentary that was on the feed I watched was so full of entitlement it was beyond a joke.

If that was ITV then that's par for the course. They have such appalling commentators.

#333843 Euro 2016 tournament thread

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Welsh game was really good between two teams who looked promising. England really should've won, and looked promising, then fucked it up again.

Makes Thursday even more interesting. Despite the fact everyone's gonna be at work.

By SpinSwimScream | On 11 June 2016 - 23:01 PM BST

Football!

Yeah... its a fucking shame.

#333062 The Lower League Thread

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By Vercoe | On 05 June 2016 - 11:57 AM BST

We've been away on our first game for years IIRC. June 17th is when the official fixtures come out I think.

That's what I thought but apparently that was the date last season's came out. Oddly, the Football League's come out a week after the Premier League's, which are due out June 15th.

#332142 What Was The Last Film You Saw?

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Saw the two main X-Men trilogies in the last week. X-Men was good, X2 was excellent, The Last Stand was crap, First Class was very good, Days of Future Past was good, if flawed, and Apocalypse was entertaining but messy and made very little sense.

#332138 The Lower League Thread

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So far, I've variously predicted Brighton, Bradford, Portsmouth and Sheffield Wednesday for play-off wins.

Good luck Barnsley and Plymouth.

#332135 2016/17 Kit Thread

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Looks better than our current home kit tbf. No stupid blue diagonal stripes or weird blue flaps.

I still prefer Newcastle kits with more black than white though. Dunno why, just do.

#331585 The Lower League Thread

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By Poe | On 24 May 2016 - 19:57 PM BST

We're dragging this Rafa thing out a bit aren't we?

We dragged out appointing him, sacking McClaren, appointing the Yarm Donald Trump, sacking Carver, confirming Carver as Pardew's replacement, and confirming JFK in the DoF role. I'm used to it by now.

#331184 FA Cup 2015/16

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Pardew doing a dumb dad dance then losing anyway... ah the nostalgia. Although for Newcastle that would usually come in Round 3 than in the Final.

#330961 The Lower League Thread

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So, the FL wants to replace the current 3x24 structure with 4 tiers of 20... I get the fixture congestion argument but overall I'm not sure why.

#330884 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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That looks pretty hideous and unappetising. And the chicken isn't great looking either.

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By BR. | On 18 May 2016 - 16:23 PM BST

1-0 Hull is my prediction.

Would probably rather Sheff Weds get promoted though, only because it's somebody different in the PL.

Both, tbh - would rather SWFC went up, but think Hull probably will.

#330575 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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I think the whole thing with 2009 was less the unfortunate health issues JFK suffered - although his loss was a bow as he would've kept us up that year IMO - and more the fact that an inexperienced Chris Hughton and Colin Calderwood were left to struggle solo for 2 months while the suggestion that Kinnear may or may not return was not really solved. Don't know if they received a prognosis or not, but there was an unwillingness to commit.

Maybe it was a case of dithering then, but this season was a worse example of dithering. It might have been better for Benitez to be appointed during La Manga, as that would've given him around 2 weeks to get familiar with the team on neutral territory, plus a friendly with some Norway-based team and games against Stoke and Bournemouth would've been an easier baptism/interlude to find a system and players that worked then games with the eventual champions and a pair of six-pointers.

8 games may well have not been enough in 2009, but I'd say the position was more favourable then. That year, we went down by one point despite being ahead with two games to go, given a pair of winnable fixtures, and with a better GD. In comparison, we always had an inferior GD, and Sunderland only lost two of their last 13 (that being to West Ham and Leicester). I agree we should've got more than 2 points than we got from the Sunderland/Norwich/Villa trio, but it feels as much like those 2 wasted games at the Britannia and against the Cherries while McClaren was in a full dead rubber place cost us badly.

Although then again, you could say the same about Bobby Madley giving Sunderland a cheap penalty that Adam Johnson scored and handing Coloccini an incorrect red. And yes I know its the domain of the sore fucking loser to lament that incident from 7 months ago, but damn it why the fuck not?

I'd say the worst case of too little time was Norwich in 2013/14, given they sacked Hughton months after it became apparent they couldn't score for shit, and gave Neil Adams five games to keep them up (a six pointer with a Fulham team they never seem able to beat, then Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal)

As for Benitez staying, I still remain thinking he won't, but we'll see. Early signs are good at least.

#330571 The Lower League Thread

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Could be interesting if it was a relegation/promotion one like the one between 3rd from bottom of the Bundesliga and 3rd from top of the 2nd tier.

#330479 The Night Thread Mk. IX

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By Eric Portapotty | On 14 May 2016 - 17:17 PM BST

OOHH, Jimmy Carr's coming to Singapore, not sure if it's worth playing >$100 to shout at him about his taxes though...

Saw him in 2013. The entire first 15 minutes were about taxes. So its not as if it isn't anything he's done before.

#330475 The Lower League Thread

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Probably sums up Brighton's luck that they had 27 shots but could only score one, and Wednesday duly levelled with a fluke.

Still, although I thought the Seagulls would do it, I've felt for a while that Wednesday would be dark horses for promotion this season or the next one. Clearly, we're a step closer to seeing if such a thought held water. Even despite the fact they inexplicably lost games to MK Dons, Bristol City, Rotherham and Charlton in the regular season.

#330352 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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I mean, tbf, I would say they were right to call this off, but this is also very darkly hilarious. GMP have confirmed this was a device being used to train sniffer dogs, which really does raise questions as to what the hell they were playing at.

#330327 The Lower League Thread

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92nd minute winner for Plymouth sends them to Wembley. Very impressive way to get it indeed.

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By Ninja | On 15 May 2016 - 18:32 PM BST

The experts' assessment has now concluded and found that the device wasn’t viable. A full search of the stadium is ongoing. #mufc
— Manchester United (@ManUtd) May 15, 2016

I think the second tweet makes it clearer that they don't want to guess at motivations. Whether it was a hoax or whether it was a genuine attempt to kill people its a relief to know that it would not have worked.

This is true. I guess all we can do await to see what the official investigation into this reveals, and what the motivations of the person who left it there were.

Maybe that'll stop the bizarre quantity of jokes into all this, which were going on live during the initial evacuation of the ground. Or not.