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#329225 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 May 2016 18:48:53

Leicester get the title and Martin Tyler gets his mic cut midway through saying unbelievable. Brilliant.

By Shola | On 07 May 2016 - 18:30 PM BST

18 months later and we're relegated. Winning about 4 games. - It's been a disaster since he left. It's clear he was holding the club together. He's not a world class manager by any means but he was willing to drop people and wouldn't of allowed the club to sleepwalk into danger the way it has.

McClaren was awful - but the only reason he was allowed to stay on so long was Charnley being desperate to prove his decision was correct and the fickle fan desperate not to be seen as fickle.

My hope is the relegation leads to a clear out - Charnley is sacked and replace by a chief exec. who actually listens to the manager - a manager allowed to make decisions, and the squad picked on form rather than on supposed ability. And the club is allowed to be rebuilt like it was last time until Charnley got his hands on it.

Its a two part issue. On the one hand, I don't think Pardew was great and I don't think we were wrong to want his exit. But that was built on the naive assumption we could find someone better, and until they pulled Benitez out of their arse with no real time to change the culture at the club, they couldn't. And that's down the drain too because he could only get 2 points from Norwich, Sunderland and Villa, and just couldn't galvanise them in a way the succession of late-on Mackem appointments has, and next year its obviously going to be someone like Nigel Pearson.

But I do agree with your other point that he was clearly a stronger presence at Newcastle than we thought. The board were clearly not expecting his departure 18 months ago, and ran around like headless chickens for a month before settling for two incompetent freebies in a row. McClaren was a disaster from the start kept in for far too long by Charnley, and that 18 day period off after the Chelsea thumping is perhaps the biggest waste of time possible.

Its pretty clear Charnley has to go and Graham Carr has to be kept away from France, Belgium and Holland. But in terms of the second tier, this won't be like it was in 2009-10 - I'm expecting a closer season to those of Blackburn, Fulham or QPR in recent years, where there's lots of changes, no consistency, and the odd embarrassing defeat to a side going to League One. Even if most the players are tossers who went missing too often, few squads go up on the back of changing everyone.

And sure, I know its not mathematically confirmed yet. But for all the good Everton and Watford will do, why bother getting hopes up.

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By Shedender | On 07 May 2016 - 17:59 PM BST

It seems he's fucking obsessed about Pardew.

No shit. And also thinks Sammy Ameobi is a good player when most Cardiff City fans have fed back from his loan there that he's been mostly shit.

#329202 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 May 2016 16:59:31

Yeah Terry was sent off at WBA in August. Granted that opening month feels like something out of another season, but still...

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By Shola | On 07 May 2016 - 17:20 PM BST

Weird how some people want Sunderland to stay up. They played a nonce for a year ffs.

In an alternative universe, there's a protest against Pardew as a draw at Villa Park sees Newcastle slips to 12th. Why is he picking Sammy Ameobi instead of Gini Wijnaldum, being a major complaint as well as Mitrovic who has been 'Pardewed'.

Oh come on are you still prattling on about Pardew? He was a fucking spent force and getting rid of him was a good idea. As much as buying lamentable cowards was a mistake, it was not getting rid of him - more that replacing him with John Carver and McClaren was a fucking disaster.

#329190 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 May 2016 16:12:52

I could handle it if it wasn't for the fact that odious toad Sam Allardyce has done it too.

#329184 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 May 2016 15:56:02

Well that's it. The spineless cowards have given us one last fucking kick in the pants.

#329177 The Lower League Thread

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07 May 2016 15:35:28

Chris Hughton has said they will be appealing the red card shown to Dale Stephens in that game with Middlesbrough.

Why bother? That looked a nasty one even before you saw the mark it left on Ramirez's leg.

#329176 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 May 2016 15:31:34

Oh eat a dick football.

#328835 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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05 May 2016 15:20:47

Yeah I think that is the right call on Fellaini/Huth. Though as far as Chelsea v Spurs goes, sensible might well have seen Costa, Fabregas, & every Spurs player apart from Lloris and Kane banned.

Meanwhile, Newcastle have released Gabriel Obertan and Sylvain Marveaux from their contracts early. Good riddance.

#328545 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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03 May 2016 16:29:15

Fellaini and Huth both charged with violent conduct.

Least I predicted one thing right.

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By Suffolk Seasider | On 02 May 2016 - 19:21 PM BST

Ipswich could be a club in turmoil next season. I don't think Mick McCarthy will be here, the owner doesn't like to spend money and the crowds are down as fans are bored with the club. Hull are similar, they may well be a decent sized club but the fans are not happy and the owner is unwell. Poor relations between the fans and the board does not make to a conductive season. Also, think Boro is a strange one behind closed doors too - if they don't go up this season I can see them struggling next season regardless of whether Karanka stays as the wheels could come completely off.

Too many "big" teams in the Championship to predict it at either end. Look at Fulham, how are they only 1 place above relegation this season. And of course Bolton and Charlton going down, both of who graced the Premiership in the past. It's a crazy division and arguably better than the Premiership usually (for it's lack of predictability - though disputably not this season!).

Hence why I said predicting is a "bit of a bitch". It usually seems to be the case that at least one of the three teams you think will be promoted fucks it up. Ipswich is a strange one - they look in a position for a BPL surge, but they seem to be in a very uneasy place. Also, yeah, Boro looked in an uneasy place when Karanka nearly walked out.

To be fair, Fulham were a basketcase last season so it was likely they might, even if in entertaining style where they've inexplicably got a top quality strikeforce and a rotten defensive unit.

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By Ninja | On 02 May 2016 - 23:02 PM BST

Spare a thought for Vertout who turned Leicester down this summer to join Villa

Haha yeah forgot about that.

#328427 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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02 May 2016 21:54:42

Danny Simpson - not good enough to displace Debuchy in 2013, Premier League champion in 2016. Jeez.

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02 May 2016 21:06:36

Fucking hell.

Still, fair play to Leicester, and well done to Spurs for finding a truly magnificent way to fuck it up (and with any luck give us an easy win on the final day by getting all their good players retrospectively banned)

By King Luis | On 02 May 2016 - 21:59 PM BST

This is the most fight Chelsea have shown all season

Harsh, but fair

#328389 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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02 May 2016 20:48:33

I swear both sides have tried their best to have at least 3 players sent off.

By bmg033 | On 02 May 2016 - 21:43 PM BST

What did I fucking say? John Terry to score an injury time winner and then turn up in full kit at Leicester next week to lift the trophy.

#328313 The Lower League Thread

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02 May 2016 18:05:47

Fair play to Burnley - they splashed the cash on a top quality striker, have gone 22 unbeaten, and deserve to be back. Plus it never feels like a Premier League season without at least one team from a random town in Lancashire being there.

Of the also-rans in the second tier, I'd say other clubs are in a better place for a play-off challenge than QPR - Cardiff have good money, while Ipswich & Birmingham have the bare bones of a promotion team (if not the consistency). And that's before the fact three of Middlesbrough, Brighton, Hull, Derby & Wednesday will still be there next year, and three absurdly wealthy ex-PL teams are coming down too. Personally, I fancy SWFC to go up either this season or next.

Then again last year, Brighton were lucky to avoid relegation and now potentially a win in the ultimate jackpot game from a place in the Premier League. So it is a bit of a bitch to predict next season before any transfers are made.

#328275 The Lower League Thread

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02 May 2016 16:46:55

So, unless QPR win at Burnley, Middlesbrough v Brighton is a shootout for promotion.

I'd like to see Brighton in the Premier League and they deserve something after going 20+ games unbeaten at the start of the campaign, but equally I think Middlesbrough's team looks better equipped for the BPL, and I can imagine them wanting to avoid repeating being beaten in the play-off final. So... dunno.

#328192 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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02 May 2016 10:56:58

There's a consensus that both might get bans for the incident. Which IMO would be a just punishment.

#327953 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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01 May 2016 14:54:11

Apparently Drinkwater called the referee a cunt... so we can look forward to big philosophical debates on him all next week too. Yippee.

#327938 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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01 May 2016 14:00:41

That really should've been a penalty against Rojo on Mahrez.

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By Shola | On 30 April 2016 - 18:17 PM BST

Sunderland should have also not played a nonce all season (and last)

Also that.

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By BR. | On 30 April 2016 - 17:14 PM BST

If you win at Villa, you should be more or less safe shouldn't you? Unless Norwich or more likely Sunderland get a couple of surprise results.

Ideally, but Sunderland and Norwich have a game in hand (technically the Canaries currently have 2 given their game at Arsenal kicks off in 5).

Hence my worry of how much we're in the potential situation of banking on a double favour from one of Watford or Everton, who play both Mackems & Canaries in the final 2 games of the season. If I was to stick my neck out I'd say its likely between us and Sunderland, as I don't see Norwich getting enough points off of Arsenal and Manchester United, but you can never predict anything accurately in this situation.

I could curse either Bobby Madley's atrocious refereeing at the Stadium of Light, or Mike Dean ignoring Johnny Howson's double handball at Norwich for not giving us a bigger margin, but its our own fault we need other results to go our way as well as winning as many points as possible.

#327698 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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30 Apr 2016 16:03:48

Well... Defoe's 93rd minute penalty may not help, but at least we didn't do something like Villa.

Still, all we can do is win as many as we can, and we did. So thank fuck for that today. Onto the next'un.

#327692 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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30 Apr 2016 15:41:13

Blimey what a goal from Andros Townsend, and what joy to see Yohan Cabaye have a penalty saved.

Still fucking worried we'll fuck it up somehow.

#327676 The Lower League Thread

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30 Apr 2016 13:34:26

Feels like just six months ago Blackpool won 4-0 at Wigan on the opening day of the 2010-11 Premier League season, not (almost) six years.

Time really has not been kind on the Tangerines, huh.

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By Suffolk Seasider | On 27 April 2016 - 14:21 PM BST

I like his show.

Thirded.

#327133 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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26 Apr 2016 10:17:55

The jury in the Hillsborough disaster inquest has returned a verdict of unlawful killing exacerbated by police mistakes, and not caused by fan behaviour.

27 years too late.

#327073 Newcastle Thread

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25 Apr 2016 21:12:04

A possible injury to Dier and ban for Alli means they might be 2 less problems, and with any luck they may have a Euro-related rest. Not that it'd help if Chadli plays, given he usually scores v NUFC.

And yeah, I guess ultimately, Newcastle have to win as many points as possible and if its not enough then its our own fucking fault for being down there. We'll see really. But I guess it only really hit me yesterday that the other two rivals for the drop have to face the same opponents, which I didn't really know until the reinforcement of this fact by all the "Here's the remaining games" stuff.

If we only get 2 points and that keeps us up, then that's a fair contender for shittest end to the season ever from a neutral POV. Not that I'd care, ofc.

#327069 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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25 Apr 2016 21:05:48

It is still genuinely perplexing that Leicester City can win the Premier League next weekend. But good for them.

#326953 Newcastle Thread

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25 Apr 2016 12:19:55

Its just dawned on me how much we need favours from Watford and Everton, given they both play Sunderland & Norwich in their last 2 games. So if they roll over to both, we're fucked. And that's even before dodging Pardew (eep), an attempt by Villa to drag us with them (er...), and Spurs maybe needing a win for the title.

I think we need 9/9 points ideally, though, and even that may well not be enough. Either that or I'm over-complicating things.