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11 Apr 2016 20:25:12

Siem de Jong has joined in with criticising his teammates.

If open criticism from manager, players and what feels like the entire media doesn't provoke a reaction from certain players against Swansea, then frankly nothing will.

By Shola | On 11 April 2016 - 20:09 PM BST

It's not factually true but why not?

Which aspect?

#324855 Newcastle Thread

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11 Apr 2016 17:25:29

It appears Daryl Janmaat left St. Mary's with his arm in a sling after breaking two fingers by punching the dressing room wall. Would've summed up our shitty season more if he'd missed and managed to hit himself in the face tbf.

Meanwhile, Wijnaldum has come out and said he thinks certain players don't try hard enough. Though he lacked the self-awareness to add himself to that list.

If only we had someone with the effort... hard to believe Ben Arfa has 18 goals in Ligue 1 less than 2 years after Pardew sold him to make way for Remy Cabella.

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10 Apr 2016 23:00:09

I think if anything sums up van Gaal's year of going backwards, it has to be Ashley Young as a lone striker.

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By Shola | On 10 April 2016 - 15:56 PM BST

Pardew gets so much stick for having a good season with Palace. - Comfortably surviving two years running with a poor side after spending a relatively small amount of money and now with a trip to Wembley?

Like I've seen no one have a go at Sanchez Flores for having essentially the exact same season. (One point more than Palace - and spent more money) - No criticism for 'next England manager' Eddie Howe for also spending more money and no trip to Wembley (4 extra points, 1 extra game played)

Pardew 26 points from 19 games - 52 points per season
Carver 13 points from 19 games - 26 Points per season
McClaren 24 points from 28 games - 33 Points per season
Benitez - 1 point from 4 games - 10 points per season.

For comparison Pardew is set for a 45 point season this year - and with Palace took 32 points from 19 games - set for a 64 point season last year with Palace

There's a pretty major logic deficiency running through this post that its a real job to know where to begin.

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10 Apr 2016 14:50:06

Today's win means Leicester are 3 wins from the Premier League title, and are (for the moment) ten points clear of Spurs.

I'm still genuinely amazed these are statements I am writing.

By Poe | On 10 April 2016 - 13:02 PM BST

Pardew is a terrible manager, we've just somehow managed to find 2 worse than him since in Carver and McClaren, its really quite something.

Players like Shelvey and Wijnaldum are good players but theres too much individuality. We dont have a team at all, we just have a group of individuals going out and trying to play football.

It doesn't help that we refuse to buy defensive players, be it in defence or midfield.

Club is a mess from top to bottom and it won't change until Ashley either leaves or hands full control over to someone who knows what he's doing and understands football. Charnley is fucking hopeless, as is Ashley and Graham Carr is leaving a lot to be desired too.

We've been sliding ever since we spent 6m on Vurnon Anita and presuming our squad was good enough to cope with Europe 2 years after getting promoted.

I do like Jamaal Lascelles, though.

Its not that Shelvey and Wijnaldum are terrible players, but as well as the attitude problems, I don't think they can co-exist as a CM pairing. They need someone with bite alongside to allow them to do more creative stuff. Alas, Tiote is shit, Anita is insipid and Colback is rubbish. Yesterday, I can only guess Shelvey was the DM, and then illustrated why it was a bad idea when Shane Long walked past him on his way to the goal.

There's a worrying culture of losing in Newcastle United FC and has been since that 5th place season - 19 league games lost in each of the last three full seasons, and now 19 already for this one. We are in a fucking mess in the football side of things, and all presided over by a mass stream of incompetence in dugout and boardroom by everyone involved. This culture that requires a colossal shift in mindset, maybe even a mass clear-out of a playing squad that has had many of the same names for most of it and who have failed time & time again.

Would rather this be done in the Premier League than the Championship, but we clearly never learned from the sins of those three campaigns, and appointing McClaren pretty much invited a repeat.

By bmg033 | On 10 April 2016 - 15:33 PM BST

Remember when people called Pardew the next England manager

I thought that was just us being sarcastic.

Then again Patrick Barclay seemed genuinely crushed and angry we dared to criticise Pardew.

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By Shola | On 09 April 2016 - 22:31 PM BST

Mr. Humble himself - said that he was struggling to motivate the squad. (Remy, Sissoko and Debuchy were shameless back then) - that should have set off warning signs.

Really like Lascelles - Newcastle should rebuild around players like him next year.

Also really liked Shelvey's interview - true captain material that lad.

And yet we kept with it. I still maintain Pardew had reached his limits - hence the mild amusement at some Palace fans going #PardewOut with a straight face during their recent winless sequence - but it was also quite clear certain players were cowardly fucknuts that were content to use the "stepping stone" angle as an excuse to not do anything, and yet a lot of them are still there, or have bought new signings down to their level really quickly.

Says a lot for how woeful a defensive pair Janmaat and Taylor are that both were cheered off when substituted. A non-existent midfield was also pretty unhelpful. Sissoko looks better at full-back, even if yesterday he actually looked like he was trying - maybe he thinks he'll get a move there - while Shelvey is an ill-fitting deep role (all 3 goals have other bigger targets, although he did not help for goal 1 with a piss-poor tackle) and the invisible man that Wijnaldum has turned into was a bad choice for CM.

Makes it more inexplicable a few results going the right way gives us the possibility of survival. Not that we deserve it.

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09 Apr 2016 20:09:16

Lascelles was the chosen player to go before the media and said a lot of the squad lack heart, desire & hunger, and that's pretty bang on - in the first half, nobody looked like they gave a shit. Steven Taylor and Janmaat were horrific, nobody in midfield did anything of use and Mitrovic might as well have not bothered given nobody knew where he was. Top marks to Ayoze for being put off a promising dribble by running into and then over Koeman. That was an achievement.

Pardew was seen as underachieving in 2013/14 because of 5 wins in 20, or whatever it was, and it was a fair point that we had switched off badly. But that was relative to then. This is underachievement on a whole other level.

By Suffolk Seasider | On 09 April 2016 - 20:45 PM BST

Loved the Villa fans phoning in to have a go at Robbie Savage after he said they were the worst team in Premier League history! Think he has some gall after the Derby team he played in finished with less points than this current Villa team and I think were arguably worse.

To be fair, I suppose there's a contextual point in that Derby went from 20th in the Championship in 2006 to promotion and kept more or less that squad... was never going to end well in hindsight, even with Sam Allardyce's generosity. But on a points basis, yes - Villa aren't the worst (3rd at present).

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09 Apr 2016 19:13:28

One thing I wasn't entirely expecting is that Southampton's ground is across the road from a cement factory... pretty stinky.

I mean, we're not out of it and we can still do it, but we were worse than useless in the first 45, and Southampton should've won by a similar margin to the twin 4-0's Pardew managed in 2014.

By Suffolk Seasider | On 09 April 2016 - 20:02 PM BST

Well, he can't be the most deluded fan in the world - listening to 606 and the West Ham fans phoning in are insistent that there is corruption spreading from FIFA to UEFA to the FA and referee's association that is stopping them from getting into the Champion's League positions!

Aye I heard this on the radio. Where do they find these people?

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By Suffolk Seasider | On 06 April 2016 - 19:48 PM BST

All they did was remove the word "Prepared" ? Plus they think that was a bargain at around £80,000?!

Some are claiming £2million.

Looks rubbish.

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03 Apr 2016 14:51:54

I still like the idea of it going to the final day just so the league title is handed over at Stamford Bridge. But yeah, they'll most likely win it before then. Still pretty fucking nuts its seemingly about to happen - not least given they were 7 points adrift this time last year.

... maybe there's hope for Newcastle after all. Ha. I wish.

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03 Apr 2016 12:12:05

Its naive to think there isn't some kind of doping stink in the BPL, and maybe this enquiry being commissioned will help, but you need more than one potentially unreliable source's claims to back up a big investigate journalism piece. This has the potential to make The Sunday Times look pretty amateurish.

Then again it was expected that Leicester, Arsenal, Chelsea and Birmingham City (the 4 involved in this) would deny involvement.

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02 Apr 2016 18:31:42

Shelvey has said before he's staying if we go down.

Can't think who else will though. Although frankly if Sissoko wants to leave now then good fucking riddance.

By Shola | On 02 April 2016 - 19:22 PM BST

It's happened the last two times we showed #Ambition. - Souness and the Fat Controller spending £50m to secure us as midtable dross for the forseeable future, and Allardyce spending £50m on terrible players to put us on an inevitable path to relegation.

So, by that logic, we'll invest as little as possible each year, finish in continual midtable and be stuck with Mike Ashley from now until the end of the world. Scuse me while I go watch paint dry instead.

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02 Apr 2016 18:13:05

They're so going to not names. Although tbf most of our players often play like they're taking downers.

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Typical NUFC to barely spend any money for 4 years, then spend tens of millions all at once on a wide variety of internationally capped players, and bring in an extremely high calibre manager, and we end up staring down the barrel of a gun in the one year Premier League relegation is financially ill-advised.

If Charnley and Carr stay it might well be time to plan for League One. But can imagine next year we'll be like Fulham or Blackburn even with them gone - masses of player transactions, no gelling process, end up stuck going nowhere in the middle or worse.

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By Shola | On 02 April 2016 - 16:54 PM BST

Would like to see him sacked.

I'd take John Carver now if offered.

Fucking come off it - if Carver had been given the job we'd be much closer to Villa.

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02 Apr 2016 15:52:47

Oh fuck me football is such a cunt.

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02 Apr 2016 14:51:22

We're fucked.

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By bluemoon. | On 02 April 2016 - 14:29 PM BST

Not saying he's great by any means but they're clearly getting something out of him. Kind of suggests Newcastle weren't getting the best out of him.

To be fair there's been a long list of players in recent history who've done substantially better after leaving St. James' Park.

Not able to watch the game but we've sounded very much second best so far... eep.

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By Franck | On 31 March 2016 - 20:46 PM BST

You do realise that the Leicester side that currently tops the table was built on that philosophy, right?

Its obviously a key part, yeah, but Villa seemed to think cheap imports found with an emphasis on this side of things and the whole "replace quality with quantity" approach would work. Apparently not, given they're naturally going to have John Carver taking them towards League One this time next year. Then again, its probably easier to wonder if Aston Villa actually had a transfer policy last year, given all the shit they've bought.

Meanwhile, I've spotted all the pundits saying "Villa need a British manager", forgetting the origins of Sherwood, Lambert and McCleish.

Not that I care, given next season, we'll probably be there, given we have such a crap defensive unit.

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30 Mar 2016 18:31:45

To be fair both Krul injuries were international duty related (last season's was the fault of a fucking friendly as well). But its a colossal pain in the arse regardless.

A number of Notts Forest fans on Twitter incidentally seem to think we're screwed and will be turning up there in a few months if we're relying on Darlow. Yippee.

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30 Mar 2016 18:30:26

Villa were screwed the moment they decided to replace Benteke and Delph with what they did.

I know the ideas behind Moneyball and using sabremetrics to spot cheap players that can be superstars are good n all and work in other sports, but maybe its time to not use that philosophy.

#323016 What Was The Last Film You Saw?

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29 Mar 2016 22:08:44

Batman v Superman

Essentially some good performances thrown in a blender with a convoluted plot, an annoying villain, way too many CGI explosions, and an eardrum-bursting bombastic score. Not as bad as some critics are saying, but not great.

#323009 Newcastle Thread

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So, Elliot was stretchered off during an Ireland friendly and is likely to be out for the rest of the season.

Which leaves Darlow (shaky in his only appearance) or Woodman (18 yo)... I'm getting a feeling we're not going to survive this blow.

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By Eric Portapotty | On 26 March 2016 - 07:34 AM GMT

Oh and Amy Adams was pretty hot for some reason.

If she can make the trashy 70's vibe of American Hustle look hot, then this shouldn't be as hard.

I'm not sure about whether I can be arsed with it tbh, even if I liked the Nolan Batmans. I wasn't impressed by the first trailer for BvS and also find the character of Superman to be annoying in the first place, but the uninspiring reviews from critics, friends and social media has me thinking it might be just something to skip.

#321987 What Was The Last Film You Saw?

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24 Mar 2016 21:38:46

Saw 10 Cloverfield Lane last night. Very interesting and somewhat claustrophobic film. Few plot strands that went nowhere, but the 3 performances at the heart of the film kept me interesting.

Dunno about seeing BvS. The reputation of Zack Snyder as a director/hack is not assuring, and I thought Henry Cavill's Superman looked a dour bore in the trailers for Man of Steel. Might just wait for Captain America: Civil War for the superhero kicks. Or go re-see Deadpool.

By Number 1 | On 18 February 2016 - 21:54 PM GMT

The Revenant is probably going to win the Oscar for Best Film though.

Well... shows what I know, clearly.

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By Suffolk Seasider | On 22 March 2016 - 19:35 PM GMT

Forums were the social media. Just like before them, emails were the big thing. Now it's all Twitter, etc. So is it the death of the forums, or the evolution? Maybe we're just the heavy-browed neanderthals who are clinging to our past glory!

Personally, I love forums . Not into the Twitter thing at all

I'm a huge user of Twitter and Facebook - much to excess. I prefer forums for specific chat though.

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21 Mar 2016 19:54:01

Seems to be a problem for forums everywhere - a lot of the music forums I used as a teenager are really quiet now in comparison, and those are the ones that still get traffic. Others elsewhere are pretty dormant.

Shame, really.