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#321380 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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20 Mar 2016 17:07:25

I know Man City fans say their academy is doing really well - surely one of them can't be any less of a disaster than Demichelis has so far been.

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By Based Jorge | On 20 March 2016 - 16:28 PM GMT

Can't wait for Rashford to be never heard of again once Mourinho comes in and spunks £150m on a new attack

This, essentially.

#321335 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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20 Mar 2016 15:27:14

I'd lost all hope long before the 80th minute so good to see we've at least got something. Makes Norwich away in 2 weeks even bigger.

#321328 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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20 Mar 2016 15:15:50

Hooray we're not losing!

#321317 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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20 Mar 2016 14:58:38

What a bunch of frauds.

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20 Mar 2016 14:21:09

I said our best hope was Defoe getting injured... if only that had happened. Fuck... guess its a game at Burton Albion on Channel 5 next season then.

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20 Mar 2016 14:15:11

Bollocks

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20 Mar 2016 13:50:25

Colback is looking increasingly vulnerable against Borini... this is not good.

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20 Mar 2016 11:01:54

Really really really not looking forward to this game. Hopefully my pessimism is ill-founded, but I was really optimistic before the reverse fixture and wound up being exceptionally furious as a result of that fucking farce.

And yes, Coloccini's red card in that one was rescinded. We then got fined for failing to control our players after that decision... work that one out.

By Shola | On 19 March 2016 - 21:26 PM GMT

Gutierrez' suing the club. - If he wins could this not basically change football?

ie any injury prone or aging player can just claim discrimination?

I think these are exceptional circumstances, hence the suit. There's a difference between cancer and merely injury-prone. Plus, tbf, given we kept Gouffran and Marveaux instead, he would've been more useful.

#321190 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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19 Mar 2016 20:40:53

Yes, one goal in that timespan is correct (Debuchy in 2013). I'm still extremely pissed off by the reverse fixture and the inept referee that turned a quiet game we were dominating into a Mackem rout by ignoring a valid penalty and giving them a substantially more deabatable one, so with that plus all the rest, so we definitely owe them a fucking over. Frankly, we need a win - doesn't matter if its by a rout or a Maradona in 86-esque 94th minute goal, but I'll take three points. Hopefully the Gods will be smiling on us for this one.

Even moreso given Norwich got a belated clean sheet and win away. Winning there in 2 weeks is also a must.

#320673 Newcastle Thread

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16 Mar 2016 11:59:54

If Mbemba and/or Coloccini were fit, then yes, but our only back-up options are untried at a senior level. Hell of a scenario to throw them in to.

#320670 Newcastle Thread

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16 Mar 2016 11:12:46

Is it a bit negative to think our best hope of a clean sheet on Sunday is Defoe getting injured in training?

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14 Mar 2016 21:37:36

I do get the feeling most people will be cheering on Leicester in all their remaining games.

Been a very tight one this one. We've not done too badly tbf, but just can't break through.

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14 Mar 2016 20:52:39

If anything sums up the non-event that is Moussa Sissoko, it has to be when he took out Mitrovic just when he was about to shoot.

There were promising signs in the first half tbf, but we're still behind... so, could make the second half interesting.

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11 Mar 2016 22:21:27

I'll be more excited if & when we get the necesary points to stave off relegation, as I am aware we have a manager with an impressive reputation and trophy haul. But first, we need to stay up.

Plus tbf he'll be more welcome than he was at Chelsea, who actively despised him from the off.

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11 Mar 2016 20:45:17

McClaren was never going to keep us up, much as he bleats to the LMA, so good news he's been jettisoned. As for Benitez, I'm hoping it works. The calibre and reputation is certainly suggesting of such, but the big task is giving those players a massive kick up the arse.

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10 Mar 2016 21:10:54

This whole managerial changeover should have been handled a lot more smoothly. If they wanted to faff around and drag it out for no reason, they had 18 days after the Chelsea thumping to do it in.

I'm still to be convinced as even with all this speculation and reporting, I will only be convinced if or when a press conference unveils him as manager.

#319780 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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09 Mar 2016 18:56:05

I know the expression "dead man walking" is overused, but McClaren is starting to resemble that aged zombie with the legs missing at the start of the Walking Dead pilot.

Also, Lee Charnley is an absolute fuckwit.

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By Shola | On 08 March 2016 - 17:11 PM GMT

I think the whole idea with McClaren is that he's a fantastic coach.

Charnley thought he would be the best man to mould the younger players Newcastle were aiming to sign into reaching their potential. While Charnley gets to keep playing Championship manager and signing players himself. Sounds great on paper as McClaren guides and coaches for example - a side of Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Shelvey, Townsend, Thauvin, Mitrovic to their potential, Newcastle rise up the table and the players are worth rises too - and a genuine dynasty can start to be built. All solid enough theory on paper.

I suspect Charnley-Carr always privately blamed Pardew when a signing didn't work out and haven't learnt any lessons.

I'm not as opposed to Garry Monk as I was to McClaren.

There's been a lot of people saying McClaren is a good coach, and it may well be the case he is, but there do appear to be manager failings.

I assume this philosophy is how a number of European football sides do their player purchasing. It may well be the case we've done it to excess at the expense of team-building, and then made it worse by trying to repeat the Pardrew trick (find a manager seen as on the scrapheap and watch him prove to the world he's still got it, as he did in 2011/12) with someone who couldn't find form to begin with. At an ordinary club, Graham Carr's position would be in question. But he'll still be here regardless of the new appointment.

Meanwhile, a few seem to think we made contact with Benitez. Presumably of a similar note to the discussions with Lacazette, going...
"Do you wanna join NUFC?"
"No"

Fair play for trying at least - you'd like to think he has the calibre to kick our squad up the arse.

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By Shola | On 07 March 2016 - 21:12 PM GMT

Edwards seems pretty sure. He's an absolute walloper and a thundercunt, but his sources are normally reasonably good. Apparently 'the board' is met today without McClaren.

There are quite a lot of different media outlets saying that a McClaren-less meeting was held today and that he'll be gone in the next 48 hours.

We'll wait and see I guess.

By Shedender | On 07 March 2016 - 21:57 PM GMT

Then again, no one would've been stupid enough to appoint him in the first place, especially considering how he bottled potential promotion with Derby last season. Would love for him to be gone before the trip to Leicester next Monday but I doubt that'll happen and even if we was to go, who'd come in to replace him?

Yeah. It was a pretty stupid decision. Surely we could've shown more ambition than a man who bottled promotion with Derby (arguably twice), but no.

I'm going to abstain on listing ideas for successors, although frankly, there are very few people out there even less qualified than McClaren. Its tempting to say Gary Monk because Shola might explode, but after how Swansea imploded, I'm not convinced that would be a good idea.

Moyes or Benitez would be a hell of a coup if we got them, but I don't see either happening. Which leaves Pearson... hmmmm...

#319511 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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07 Mar 2016 19:40:10

There's a Twitter consensus he might be gone tomorrow. But then again there was an actual consensus this time yesterday that he was.

Most clubs would've fired him before he'd even left the stadium after the Bournemouth debacle. Then again saner clubs would've fired him after the 5-1 defeat by Crystal Palace.

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As far as I care, every player who played in a black and white shirt yesterday was a failure by virtue of being in a performance lacking any redeeming qualities. It may well be the case the likes of Elliott and Shelvey weren't as bad as others, as most Tweeters and match reports listed, but what little I saw on MOTD was one long crock of shit. Particular negative marks for Taylor and Lascelles for performances that are up there with the worst centre-back pairings in the club's history.

Meanwhile, it appears the statement given to Sky from the players backing McClaren before kick-off yesterday had no connection with the players or from the NUFC PR department. Obviously the statement of that performance was worse... this is clearly a squad that, for one reason or another, isn't performing. It doesn't help the manager is useless, but so many of those players haven't tried in certain games, and whomever is in charge has to rectify that issue, even if its increasingly clear that person is not McClaren.

#319436 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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06 Mar 2016 21:40:32

A few Tweets have said McClaren has been thrown by the wayside, but no official confirmation. Indeed, since tweeting the final score yesterday, the official NUFC Twitter has posted nothing.

Not sure to trust it yet though. I remember a lot of stuff saying "Pardew gone" after the defeat by Reading in January 2013, so I remain skeptical for the moment.

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By Poe | On 06 March 2016 - 17:21 PM GMT

Absolutely wrong in every aspect of this post

I've seen most comments that Shelvey was the only one in black and white even remotely trying yesterday, and he's done more in 2 months than Sissoko has in the entire season. Then again we're pretty used to contrarian opinions by now, so...

I dunno... I was hoping for a McClaren exit by now, but I guess I'll have to be waiting longer, if indeed it ever comes.

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06 Mar 2016 16:30:00

There are a lot of Palace fans on social media saying its time for Pardew to be fired after the combination of McCarthy falling on his arse and Benteke falling over now means no win in 12. Don't see it happening, but top 6 to bottom 6 in 3 months is quite an achievement, and accusing Geoff Shreeves of trying to antagonise him is another layer on top.

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By Sam | On 06 March 2016 - 10:00 AM GMT

I keep forgetting McClaren is also on the board.

I often moan about the state of United i.e. Woodward, our academy setup etc. but I look at Newcastle and I realise our problems are nowhere near as bad. Newcastle are a mess from top to bottom: the players look disinterested, the manager is failing, no sign of an upcoming star in the academy, the majority of their transfers haven't worked out, Mike Ashley is still there and the confidence is at an all time low. I do feel for the fans, no football fan deserves that shit happen to their club.

Obviously this is an outsider's point of view but that's just from what I've seen!

Seeing as Newcastle loanee Adam Armstrong is currently League One's top scorer, I'd say he has potential, although he did look a bit off in his first team gos last year. Intelligent management is needed though on that front, which is something NUFC don't posses,

.The rest of it does look essentially true.

Moyes is still not my first choice as ideal successor, but would he really be any shitter than McClaren? I mean, we're one point from safety with 10 to go so in theory its doable, but the management staff on board give me no confidence that we'll even draw a game before the end of the season, nevermind win.

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By Shedender | On 05 March 2016 - 18:18 PM GMT

The sad thing about this afternoons defeat to Bournemouth, is anyone surprised?

Honestly, no. And the thing that's most deflating is the fact I don't feel apopleptic, angry or furious. I just saw it coming and expected it, and its deflating to have no confidence and expect results like this to happen.

The dumbest thing is the line before kick-off from the players backing McClaren. Which was always going to lead to a farcical display like this.

#319181 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread

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05 Mar 2016 17:09:48

I think its time to conclude that we're fucked

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By Poe | On 05 March 2016 - 02:50 AM GMT

It's hilarious how he's trying to accuse journalists of 'having an agenda' against the club because they haven't printed anything positive in 5 months.

BECAUSE NOTHING POSITIVE HAS HAPPENED YOU BIG GINGER PRAT

I've always thought it was a sign things are going to shit at the club that the manager decides having a shouting match with the media is the way to go - Kinnear's cuntwave, Pardew slagging off the local media at a press conference at Stoke when filling the block, Carver claiming he was misquoted when he said his shit, and now this.

I'm not sure how much I believe yesterday's story, although its obvious a lot of people are willing for it to be true given the ineptitude of the cretin picking the team. Of course the worst of all worlds is a loss today, but it being false and he's still in charge for the inevitable defeats in the upcoming double-header with Sunderland and Norwich, which will definitely relegate us.

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04 Mar 2016 23:15:21

Oh good - so now McClaren is attempting to fight journalists in his press conferences.

Things really are fucking disintegrating. And like he has any complaint if defeat tomorrow yields a P45 given how he's taken a squad going backwards even further into reverse.