O'Leary's Trainee - Comments

Udo Lattek (895864)

DONE by BajaHater

Thanks, man!

If that's the case you've done something wrong when installing the pack. Either you overwrote the default folders and messed up the config's, or the config files got messed up in some other way.

If you overwrote the default hairs, you could have the baldness because you no longer have any configs that allows the game to read the original hairs, and all previously created regens should have default hairs. Check your folder structure to make sure you have all the default ethnic folders (afro, asian, hispanic, euro, mixed race) and my 'olt hairpack' folder in ADDITION to these. Within my folder you should again see the same ethnic folders. If that's not how it looks - you've installed it wrong.

Hope you get it sorted.

Well, I've been working on some Botswana files, and have made some cuts. Released most pictures in the facepack release thread, but wanted to offer the improvements I've done as well.

So - these aren't really requests, since they're already cut and done - but there's no thread for posting improvements that I know of. Let me know if you want these types of posts to be elsewhere.

Mompati Thuma (12001385) - Not sure old picture is right person
REPLACE

Modiri Marumo (12007676) - Old picture is NOT Marumo (and was a duplicate) This IS Marumo.
REPLACE

Alex Matshameko (12007677) - Should probably be an alternate. Terrible source, same picture - closer cut.
REPLACE

Tshepiso Molwantwa (12007686) - Still not great - but better.
REPLACE

Stanley Tshosane (13101138) - Botswana national manager.
REPLACE

Rahman Gumbo (28071531)
REPLACE

Phenyo Mongala (65002378)
REPLACE

Botswana MixPack - 38 Images

Players, Coaches and Referees (All previously missing from megapack)

Varying quality



DOWNLOAD (MediaFire)

Players don't change hairs as they grow older, except that some players seem to get grey hair as they grow older - but this is very rare. When they do, it seems they are assigned a random grey hair instead of the one they've had, which may not look anything like the style they sported earlier.




Hope you get it sorted. Sorry, but I'm at a loss as to what could be causing it.

What? That's very odd indeed.

I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to fathom where you have gone wrong to accomplish that. My pack should not affect real player pics in any way - and if the regens are showing the hairs, that should indicate that you installed it correctly. It's got to be something else.

And, to think - the horror! Cristaino Ronaldo everywhere... what a nightmare!

We're looking at this:

http://www.athletic-club.net/web/main.asp?a=1&b=8&c=0&d=0&idi=2

(he'd just double pasted the address)

Looks like a good enough source for refs as far as I can tell.

Thanks, guys.

Glad you're enjoying the pack.



Yeah, I know Those beards kind of look weird on the kids, but I figured that for the most part of their footballing careers they'll be fully grown adults able to grow a full face of hair... I feel I'd rather have a few hairy kids around, than a whole world full of baby-faced adults.

And, yes - I agree. This is an essential add-on for my FM enjoyment (if I may say so of my own work). Especially for those long-term saves, or when downloading leagues where a lot of real players are missing. One needs a bit of variety on the looks of players so we can get a clear "imaginary" picture of who they are. My only problem... I can't get enough hairs to be satisfied.

That's a known issue that happens sometimes (as mentioned in the OP).

I'm sorry it's happened to you, but (probably) what happens is that when you remove the hairs it retains the information as it should have done when you installed it. Only now it retains info of images that no longer exist... hence the bald players.

I had the same thing happen in a game a while ago. All one can do is get used to the new haircuts on the existing players.

Glad you got it working.

As for a couple of players missing the shirts. Did you download the default replacements pack? If you didn't, the regens that are assigned one of the default hairs will not be wearing a shirt, so you need to download that pack as well. Link in OP, ReadMe in file for install instructions.

There is also a problem, as I mention in the OP, that most of the time bald headed players are not assigned a hair image file at all, and that means they don't get the shirt either. This I can't do anything about, sadly.

Looks like you've done it just right.

If you're looking at a save game that had regens - the file should not replace the hairs on those already created in game, so you would only see the new hairstyles on new players that get added to the game during season updates.

If you're not seeing them while starting up a new game (with fake players), then most likely you need to go into Preferences. Untick the cache and reload the skin on confirm - that should load up the new pictures (once done, you can revert your settings)

Let me know if this doesn't work.

To make it clearer what this file does...

ALL that it does is add a shirt to the default hairs that come with the game. It doesn't change the way the original hairs look (except, obviously, that they will now wear a t-shirt). See picture:

Thanks. Hope you'll enjoy them!

Yeah, the default replacements do absolutely nothing but add the same shirts that my hair files add. So they look exactly like normal, except they now have a shirt. That way they don't stand out as different.

But, yeah... gimme a minute and I'll fix up a screenshot and add to that upload.

Didn't realize that uploading the file created a forum post... Sorry about the double posting here - but please keep discussion about this pack in the release thread - rather than in this one.

http://sortitoutsi.net/forums/topic/2009/released-olt-expanded-hair-pack-v3.0-the-dress-up-edition


----


(Since I didn't add the extra information I feel needed into the upload description)

VERSION 3.0 HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED!

Please turn your attention to version 4.0, which can be found here:
OLT Expanded Hair Pack v4.0




OLT Expanded Hair Pack v3.0:

I always thought there were way too few hairstyles to offer any variety in NewGens in the game, and while I rectified most of that problem with Version 1 AMD 2 of my OLT Hairpack, I still feel more are needed. I focused on more afro's for this version, since that is where I felt they were most needed.

Here is a short breakdown of what V3 brings to the popular OLT Hair Pack:

IMPROVED THE OLD HAIRS:
I've spent a good time going through all the previously released hairs to improve them. I've made sure to remove all the white borders you'd get when using a dark skin. This should be a welcomed fix for the multitude of players who have always used dark skins, and didn't enjoy this pack as much as I want them to. I've also tried to clean them up a bit and tried to correct some unrealistic colors for a more natural look to them.

SHIRTS:
I never liked how the regens looked like they had no bodies from the neck down. They always looked like heads on a stick to me, so I experimented with adding some shirts to them so that they got a hint of shoulders in the pictures. This worked out extremely well in my opinion, so I had to go through it ALL again and add shirts.

I chose to do a very basic grey colored t-shirt style. This is to prevent any colors that associate to any team. Instead, they appear as if the picture was taken when they wore nothing but their undershirt...

In addition to my Hair Pack, I also decided to offer an additional download to add shirts to the default hairs as well. It looks kind of weird if only players with my hairs get realistic shoulders, while the defaults still appear as heads on a stick. So make sure you get the default replacements as well!

Further more...
I DO have some ideas. I'd like to use the same method that the default logo's use, and add an additional code to the player pic widgets where a default shirt image would display with the correct team colors - so that all players would be dressed in proper team shirts. Perhaps even add the ability to put team specific shirts in there, just like you can do with logo's. This is why I kept all the hairs without the shirt addition as well - in case I want to do some changes to how the shirts work.

I don't know if this will ever be a possibility. Especially since the shirt image would have to be wedged in between the hair image and the actual face image... which I think facegen renders as one. However... it's an idea for the future expansion of this facepack, and any ideas are welcome from those better at coding .xml than I am

Of course... this idea would require a custom skin.

MORE FACIAL HAIR:
I wanted more "character" to the players. So this time around I got a little more bold, and tried to add more advanced facial hairs to the game. It was a tough thing to do, because the faces can be very different, and I had to balance things back and forth so players wouldn't get the moustache on the tip of their nose. From my tests, it works absolutely wonderful, but occasionally (very rarely), you might find a player who looks a little bit weird.

Also... Yeah, I know - it looks kinda weird for a 16 year old regen to have a thick beard on his face - but, for most of their playing careers they won't be teenagers, and older players should certainly have more facial hair than we've been used to. It certainly adds a LOT more character to their appearances.

MORE BALD STYLES:
Put in a bunch more bald hair styles as well. These would be bald headed players who's got some facial hair, or a hint of shaved down hairlines. Little things like this add a lot to the realism of the newgens.

There is one problem with this, though. The game more often than not doesn't use the bald hairstyles from the pack... but rather chooses to not add a hair-picture to the player at all. This means that most bald players will NOT have the shirts on that everybody else has. They'll still appear as the old "heads-on-a-sticks" that we've been used to.

NEW MIXED RACE CATEGORY:
The new mixed race category for hairs... well, I simply copied the entire afro folder for that. Looking at the default SI hairs... they do the same (so I wonder why they separated them to begin with). Apparently these hairs are for Afro/Caucasian mixed ethnic groups, and can be found in just about any nation. Sometimes these players are a little too pale skinned for my preference - so they look a little odd with the afro hairs. But, that's beyond my ability to control.



You can't go wrong using this, guys!
Enjoy!


DOWNLOAD HERE:

- OLT Expanded Hair Pack v3.0
- OLT Expanded Hair Pack v3.0 (No Shirt) (Only download this if you don't want shirts on the players)
- OLT Default Replacements - Adds Shirts to the default hairs!

Newgens will never look the same once you install this!


FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ALREADY INSTALLED A PREVIOUS VERSION:
Please delete the old "olt hairpack" folder before installing this one, to prevent any unwanted effects. Further instructions on how to install below.



------------------INFO--------------------


Install:
- Extract "olt hairpack" folder into the following directory:
- [YOUR FM INSTALL FOLDER*]\data\facegen\hair
- DO NOT OVERWRITE THE EXISTING ORIGINAL FOLDERS (afro, asian, euro, hispanic). You should have the "olt hairpack" folder in this directory IN ADDITION to the other ones, or you will mess up your game.

* Steam Users (default):
- C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\football manager 2010
* Others (default):
- C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2010

Note: In the facegen/hair folder, you should notice four folders already (afro, asian, euro & hispanic). These are the default hairs for the game. You should add the "olt hairpack" folder to those four in there so you don't write over the original hair styles. So DO NOT extract the "afro", "asian", "euro" & "hispanic" folders from within the "olt hairpack" folder directly into the "facegen/hair" folder. Extract the actual folder "olt hairpack" into this directory.

If you have a previous version of the OLT Hairpack installed, I recommend deleting the "olt hairpack" folder before installing the new one (all old hairstyles will still be there).

New hairstyles will (should) take effect immediately upon loading up the game. But only newly generated regens after the install will appear with the new hairstyles.


- You may redistribute this file, provided you distribute the original .rar file, including this readme.

- Enjoy




-------NOTES----------

Known issues:

- Regens sometimes change hairs upon installation of new updates, but as long as the hair folders remain the same, so will the hairs.

- Bald hairstyles are only used sporadically. More often than not, it uses no extra image for the balds, which means they'll wear no shirt.

- Rarely, some extreme featured faces may not align 100% with the hair image. Most notably with the bearded ones. But, 99% work just fine!





------VERSION HISTORY--------




Version 3.0:
(Including white border removal on old hairs + shirts!)

Afro: 83 NEW (133)
Asian: 18 NEW (121)
Euro: 118 NEW (420)
Hispanic: 20 NEW (118)
Mixed: 6 NEW (6)*
*All afro's currently used for mixed as well...

TOTAL: 804 new hair styles




Version 2.0:

Afro: 1 NEW (50)
Asian: 99 NEW (103)
Euro: 44 NEW (302)
Hispanic: 2 NEW (98)

TOTAL: 553 new hair styles




Version 1.0:

Afro: 49
Asian: 4
Euro: 258
Hispanic: 96

TOTAL: 407 new hair styles

-----------



PS. Anyone who wants to see a specific hairstyle with my next release are welcome to post a picture of it here, and I'll get it done for use in the game.

The picture has to be a "mugshot" type picture - head held up, looking straight forward.

I'll even do YOU (You can blur out your face to protect your identity) I'm in there from the initial release... always a good chuckle when I recognize a player with my own head of hair...

Also noteworthy... it's better if the picture has good contrast and lighting - colors are important too, but I can fiddle with those so it's not that big of a deal (most hairs come in different colors from black, dark/light brown and blonde... and redheads of course).

Hi. The previous version was released a couple of years ago, and I've decided against re-uploading it since I wanted to touch those old hairstyles up a bit. They needed to be compatible with dark backgrounds as well, since I had been a bit sloppy originally and only did them for the default skin. Now that the default skin also has dark backgrounds, it is simply needed that I remove the white borders around the hairs.

But - progress is coming along fine, and I'm about to finish things up in the next couple of days. So keep your eyes peeled, and it should soon be available.

Darn, am I having problems getting these files to the general public

I've uploaded to mediafire instead... should work now.

LEEDS REPLACEMENTS

LEEDS NEW PICS

Still can't upload to siosi servers either... is it down or something?

This should be compatible with FM11. Started this when FM09 was released, and as of yet nothing has changed with the format. Apart from the new Mixed Race category, which I don't understand myself yet...

Hello!

Just wanted to pop in here and give you a heads up. I've started working on another update for the hairpack. The new pack will mainly focus on the afro hair styles, though many hairs for the others will also be done. I think this might turn into the biggest update yet. Further more, I have touched up the old hairstyles to remove the white borders you'd get when using dark skins. With the new FM default skin showing pictures on both white and dark backgrounds, it has become necessary to ensure they work on either... long overdue improvement.

I also noticed there is a new category for mixed-race hair. Since I don't have FM13 yet (should arrive in the mail next week), could someone tell me what kind of players are generated as mixed? The official facegen hairs are simply copies of afro's, though... Is it just basically lighter skinned blacks?

Also - if you've got a specific hair you'd like featured in the new pack - feel free to post an image that I can use. Whether you want your own hair in the game, or some specific players hair. I can't guarantee they'll make the pack, but I can try.

PS. I will not update the link for V2 at this time, since the new version should be out in a couple of weeks or so, and I would recommend you get that one instead.

Here is just a teaser pic of a couple new hairs I've done that will be included in the pack:

PrtScn

Bit of a hassle, since the drop down menu tends to fall on top of the top of their heads, but clicking to remove it makes it bounce a bit, and then you just have to time the print screen button to grab it when it's hidden.

They're mostly off the official Leeds site. Others were found searching like mad... Youth players, for example, are a few twitter account pictures and so forth.

Here's where I got the first team pics:
http://www.leedsunited.com/page/MatchGallery/0,,10273,00.html

I've done the Leeds United players based on this season's profile pictures. Many replacements, as well as a few new players that are not in the Megapack (feel free to include them in a future update).

I've divided the pack into two files... one for replacements to the MegaPack (No confiq file included), and one file with the new player pictures only, which comes with a finished config file.

LEEDS REPLACEMENTS

LEEDS NEW PICS

PS... unable to upload to sortitoutsi server right now... so you'll have to settle for these links for now.




To mons... (couldn't reply in the other thread)

I've considered doing some more to my hair pack. I will definitely update the existing one to improve where there is white borders/snow now that we got dark backgrounds in the default skin.

Mons edit: I've spoilered the list Looking forward to that back and hope you'll host it on our servers!

EDIT: To Mons... good call Thanks - made things tidier.

Updated the link! Had both links pointing to the New Pics only.

Sorry... I'm on it now. Been out of the FM loop for a while

I've done the Leeds United players based on this season's profile pictures. Many replacements, as well as a few new players that are not in the Megapack (feel free to include them in a future update).

Paddy Kenny 4001574


Jamie Ashdown 5512093


Tom Lees 5134490


Lee Peltier 5118010


Paul Green 5101322


Zac Thompson 28047412


Adam Drury 2003976


Jason Pearce 5123135


Danny Pugh 5101728


Patrick Kisnorbo 135123


Rodolph Austin 81000113


Aidan White 29038413


Sam Byram 28059134
NOT YET IN MEGAPACK


Michael Brown 2003598


David Norris 5100633


Joe McCann 29036353


Robbie Rogers 37002735


Ross McCormack 5204783


Dominic Poleon 28059138


Luke Varney 127930


Andy Gray 2015314


Luciano Becchio 7453282



And here are a few New Additions that I made of some youth team members... varying quality here, based on pictures I've been able to find.


Ross Killock 28059136


Simon Lenighan 28059137


Chris Dawson 29090317


Eric Grimes 29090318


Luke Parkin 29090320


Lewis Walters 29090321


Tyler Denton 29113873


Ali Amiri 29113874


Afalobi Coker 29113876


Lewie Coyle 29113877


Brad Dixon 29113878


Kalvin Phillips 29113879


Corey Roper 29113881


Eoghan Stokes 29113883