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#24033 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 18 November 2012 - 05:28 AM
I'll say this again. We stood back for a good while now, while Hamas kept firing missiles at us. We couldn't wait longer so we attacked. Last time we did this it kept them quite (they still launched missile attacks but a lot less) for a couple of years. This time we are going in harder and hopefully it will keep them silenced.

Hamas are hiding their ammo supplies and leaders where other citizens are, just so they can say "20 kids killed" and so on. Not only that, but the media are falling for their lying. Will post more about that after school.


Can I ask where you read/saw this? As clearly everyone is getting different information so it would be nice to see all sides
#23970 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By Bald Ninja | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 23:29 PM
I understand that neither side is innocent. However, are Israel's actions horrific? I would say that there actions now are more justified than their non-offensive methods of curtailing attacks. The difference between Hamas and Israel is that Hamas attacks the public at large on purpose, Israel on the other hand attacks places that are likely to be used against Israel and people who want to harm Israel and its citizens. Hamas knows how to play the system, they stay in areas that are full of innocent people to ensure that if they are struck the news story will come out that Israel has killed X amount of people. Israel's attacks are by no means and are far from the best, they do it on the basis that they are protecting their soldiers etc because a ground offensive would be more likely to attack the threats of Hamas but of course that will put Israeli soldiers at a greater threat.

I'll go back to the original question though, what's the likely outcome of all of this? Nothing. It will reach a height, probably now or in a few days (I don't see it lasting much longer than that) then it will calm down a bit more and it will happen all over again in about a year or two.


What? What utter tosh!

Israel just fire into Gaza and wipe out large groups of civilians knowingly. They are the ones playing the system and hiding behind their backers but the world is waking up to their tactics.
#23965 The General Games Discussion Thread.
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By Boone | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 20:36 PM
I just noticed Tropico 4 was down to £6.20 on Steam and the reviews were generally favourable. So whilst I wait an hour for it to download, has anybody here played it and able to tell me if its any good?


It's supposed to be good according to the reviewers I have as friends but they do packages of the games at times for about the same price
#23963 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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http://occupiedpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/netanyahu-gaza-colosseum.gif

Sadly true indicative of the world today
#23961 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
#23953 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:13 PM
His problem is he sees in black and white (insert joke here about how everything was in black and white when he grew up) if Israel are bad then in KM's head Palestine must be good.


Actually I think Palestine is the lesser evil.
#23951 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:10 PM
Do you think you could have a debate without trying to provoke people?

This is why people don't take you seriously.


I honestly didn't think that was provoking. Just worded more forward
#23935 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:04 PM
Ya, I live in the North but news keep on reporting about where the missiles hit and all that.

Also live about 30 minutes from one of the biggest Air Force bases in Israel so all you hear is the constant sound of fighter jets flying lower than usual.


Do you think fighter jets are fair given the fact that Palestine has no army per se?

By Sears | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:05 PM
Are you not fearful of being bombed or even killed, or do you live far enough away from the areas Palestine are bombing? I'd be shit scared if we and the North started firing missiles at each other!


Nah the North is largely untouched thankfully (until Iran and the Arab League finally gears up)
#23934 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 21:49 PM
Both sides are suffering but if the Hamas kept quite, none of this would have happened.


That is actually right as nobody would know about the genocide your Government is committing on a daily basis. How dare Hamas want to fight back after decades of aggression!

It must be hard to be an Israeli citizen though with your Government and main media lying to you so blatantly. I know a few from both sides who have managed to escape the region and none agree with the way your Government is.
#23930 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 21:49 PM
Those are exactly the sort of missiles we are shooting down daily. Many were already taken down.

We went in and attacked because that is the only way to stop them from firing missiles at us. Last time we went in and did what we did it worked, until they started firing a mass amount of missiles at us. We don't usually attack them but when we do we do it well and we do what has to be done. We kill the people from the Hamas, we destroy ammo supplies. Sadly, they keep putting the innocent on top of those places.

Hundreds of missiles have been fired at us every day for a good while now, so yes, we do have the right to defend ourselves. We have people that get killed, just a lot less because we are ready for these kind of things.

Most of us see this from only one point of view. Being an Israeli, it is hard for me to defend Palestine, especially when I keep hearing about missile attacks. So why don't you guys try and look at it from different perspectives? Both sides are suffering but if the Hamas kept quite, none of this would have happened.


Put your Jerusalem Post down and read some proper journalism before you get drafted into killing even more innocent women and children.

Netanyahu has said he will agree to a ceasefire if Hamas will agree to stop firing rockets from Gaza. Hilarious really considering the naval bombardment of Gaza is what triggered this particular standoff.

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Funny how they tell Hamas to disappear when bombing isn't it. Clearly wanting extra damage as well.

Oh and:


#23919 English Premier League 2012/2013
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By BR. | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 21:09 PM
Can't believe the mess Hughes has made at QPR. I like him, but he's gotta get sacked, simple as that. It's surprising though because I can't stress how good of a job he did here, he turned us into a very, very good side. Thought QPR would have really pushed on this season. If he does get sacked, which surely he will, I don't know where his next job would be.....he'd probably have to drop down a division or even look abroad.


Sadly I have to agree. I think he be an assistant for a few years personally and get to grips with aspects of the game.
#23910 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By Sears | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 19:47 PM
Why are Hamas firing missiles into Isreal so? Just seems as if Isreal's missiles are more accurate.


Reaction to being imprisoned in a modern day Auschwitz for decades while facing assaults from a major military force intent on genocide. That on top of restricted aid and refusal to let the people use their own land and waters to live.

What is alarming is that Hamas are basically created by Israel due to the aggression shown to the people. They are democratically voted in and the people feel safe under them yet the US and The West fund the attacks on them. How would they react if the shoe was on the other foot?
#23906 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By Franck | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 19:54 PM
The type of rockets Hamas are firing are not the ones you shoot down with a missile-defence system.


Funny. Israel shot down a missile with the Iron Dome defense system yesterday.
#23828 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 19:40 PM
Israel are responding entirely disproportionally as per. I expect a ground invasion to take place in the next week or so.


30k reservists drafted in to invade a country that has no army. Over 50 people dead in Palestine since Israel started this bombardment from air and sea a few days ago which is terrible for a country that says they can see the colour on a womans scarf on the strip with their guidance systems. It's murder not war really considering Hamas were democratically voted into power against an aggressor nation
#23813 This Israel-Palestine bullshit
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According to Franck nobody gives a shit about this but he will talk about his broken cock.

All I am adding at this point.
#23562 The Manchester City Thread
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On the subject of cracking up:

So we finally know who was responsible for winning the Premier League title for Manchester City last season.

Vicka Ivankovic-Mijatovic, one of six people in the Bosnian town of Medjugorje, who claimed to have been visited by the Virgin Mary in 1981.

Devout Catholic Roberto Mancini says she became the crucial difference between his City side and Fergie’s United during the run-in, after he visited the visionary, and she kissed his forehead:

“She smiled at me, looking straight into my eyes. Suddenly, she moved towards me. I had no doubts anymore. Then she kissed me on my forehead. I explicitly felt the sensation of a physical contact with someone I had never met in my life before,” he said.


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#23558 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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By Zog | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 00:36 AM
Wow, no need to be a fucking arsehole about it.

It's hardly the nicest news to receive.


Get Equasym XL. That stuff is decent
#23417 This Is Anfield
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By Crane | Permalink | On 16 November 2012 - 20:17 PM
I love it when people use the "I have black friends so I can't be racist" line. I don't have any black friends.


Well you do support Liverpool
#23416 The Manchester City Thread
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Clearly cracking up
#23414 The Politics Thread
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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 16 November 2012 - 20:23 PM
Well it seems Hamas sent a rocket to blow up the Israeli parliament today. So I'm guessing not great.


First rocket they fired since the truce day before yesterday and the naval bombardment from Israel yesterday.
#23345 This Is Anfield
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Torri, nobody said he was racist. Also he never makes eye contact with him
#23294 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 16 November 2012 - 15:46 PM
Shitting in the shower is frowned upon in most circles.


Why would you do either in a circle anyhow?
#23177 The Politics Thread
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You like Blair and Brown so you are clearly mentally unstable.
#23041 21st December 2012
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You mean the survivalist movement? There are a load of factions around the world. It's not just about 2012 but other major events also
#22965 Republic Of Ireland Thread
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By Franck | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 19:11 PM
Apparently that was the best explanation an Irish hospital could come up with when a woman died after they refused to abort the dying foetus inside her.

Read and prepare to facepalm.


Fucks sake. I hope the cunt who told them that is hit by a speeding car
#22964 Transfer Rumours 2013/14
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 14:04 PM
Rodgers has just rubbished the rumours pretty emphatically in his press conference today. All it probably is is that City have looked at Suarez as a potential target.


Anything he says can be taken with a pinch of salt though. He said that Suarez doesn't dive after all
#22786 The England National Team
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The Mirror are already at it

Only Bressan and Van Basten can challenge Zlatan's last night and none of them are as skilful as Zlatan's.
#22778 Transfer Rumours 2013/14
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Rumours of Ballotelli leaving and Suarez in? Seems plausible to me especially if they get rid of Tevez finally.
#22753 Republic Of Ireland Thread
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By Franck | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 10:14 AM
"Ireland is a Catholic country" http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif


How can a country be religious?
#22475 English Premier League 2012/2013
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