SS' Kits

We have thousands of individual FM Kit Packs, when you download these packs your copy of Football Manager will be updated with all the latest kits. Not only that but you'll have our famous SS Kits, which we think are the best Football Manager Kits around.

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SS' Kits
NEW Submission System

A new submission system for the SS Kits has been released. Please see this forum topic.


platty8
16 years ago
2 months ago
24
It might be my laptop but that looks like more of a green colour. I think the City kit is more of a yellow.

rywilson
11 years ago
3 months ago
129
Premium
It might be my laptop but that looks like more of a green colour. I think the City kit is more of a yellow.


That is the exact colour of what that picture was as I used a colour picker to match it, if you want it more yellow I could though?
rywilson
11 years ago
3 months ago
129
Premium
Hi, just wondering if anyone could make me some fantasy Portsmouth kits please?

Home - Really clean Nike kit in just standard Pompey blue. Panasonic as sponsor.

Away - Nike kit blue on white base similar to the Cambridge home/away kits - same sponsor

Third - nike kit with black base with white, some wacky design please same sponsor again

Thanks a lot



http://s30.postimg.org/q3mc97bz5/Pompey_H.pnghttp://s30.postimg.org/o0bx1jc69/Pompey_A.pnghttp://s30.postimg.org/7zjbokeap/Pompey_T.png

Not sure which of the cambridge styles you wanted so went with that, on the third kit, the sponsor was a nightmare with anything black and white so went grey. If you want a different design for third kit show me a picture and I'll redo another
Jamie MacLean 97
10 years ago
7 years ago
40
http://s30.postimg.org/q3mc97bz5/Pompey_H.pnghttp://s30.postimg.org/o0bx1jc69/Pompey_A.pnghttp://s30.postimg.org/7zjbokeap/Pompey_T.png

Not sure which of the cambridge styles you wanted so went with that, on the third kit, the sponsor was a nightmare with anything black and white so went grey. If you want a different design for third kit show me a picture and I'll redo another


Thanks a lot man, looks great!
GiorgosXIII
11 years ago
2 days ago
63
Hey, I hope these are ok
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/LMYjAk7gtNuObZy8x2RehtVorg4pWc9jyPL9VViF.pnghttps://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/xJWLmCVuYgbvJBBZSdG7mE6hM3XplU1FOsppQxT4.pnghttps://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/wgSshDdiWlcHaon2YcMkKDRYB4sZBEbc4Q6I6rWQ.png
I couldn't find the same camouflage as the one you sent so I had to make my own.
If you want anything changing please let me know
Cheers
rmb!

Thank you mate much appreciated
GiorgosXIII
11 years ago
2 days ago
63
Thank you mate much appreciated
Mate please one last request may I have 3 kits for Parma?? I want the home one plain white with blue cross and yellow details the away one like the camo one that you made me before with white cross and details and the third one plain blue with yellow cross details?? the sponsor will be the image I'll give you. Also I want this logo for the team! Thank you mate for improving our game!!
to3i
10 years ago
2 years ago
12
Premium
Hi, I am looking for a Leeds Kit.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/d/de/Leeds_United.svg

http://www.serviceplan.com/files/serviceplan.com/06_Press/Press-Releases/15-01-22_strongbow/Stronbow_Logo_white.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--b2cidsS-ao/VZJbeC4AytI/AAAAAAAAk3E/tPOPIiDNUrU/s1600/AS-Roma-15-16-Away-Kit%2B%25283%2529.jpg

Please change

Home

Red to Blue
Orange to Yellow
Strongbow in Blue

Away

White to Yellow
Red to Blue
Orange to White
Strongbow in Blue

3rd

White to Blue
Red to Yellow
Orange to White
Strongbow in Yellow
turya
9 years ago
2 years ago
143
Hi, I am looking for a Leeds Kit.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/d/de/Leeds_United.svg

http://www.serviceplan.com/files/serviceplan.com/06_Press/Press-Releases/15-01-22_strongbow/Stronbow_Logo_white.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--b2cidsS-ao/VZJbeC4AytI/AAAAAAAAk3E/tPOPIiDNUrU/s1600/AS-Roma-15-16-Away-Kit%2B%25283%2529.jpg

Please change

Home

Red to Blue
Orange to Yellow
Strongbow in Blue

Away

White to Yellow
Red to Blue
Orange to White
Strongbow in Blue

3rd

White to Blue
Red to Yellow
Orange to White
Strongbow in Yellow

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/AA7ytJNZzm4adUcNuYNb45k1Lmq81gYYBIH1KFF6.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/mZ5eaJpSUcaHLfwuhfSUssedz0WLUjTjf1AW5iG3.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/gNTgBEi3siY8HuiM3F0DdndjgzqMvI1sOqZGsStB.png
to3i
10 years ago
2 years ago
12
Premium
Imonsh
10 years ago
1 year ago
33
Just took over Gosport Borough and want some kits

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JL7DmjUjeg8uDPx1ADnVJIr4dPYbEr2TrVKRTivU.png

Logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Gosport_Borough_F.C._logo.jpg

Sponsor: aerial direct

The rest is up to you
Waz
11 years ago
3 months ago
15
It is cool the way you did them before, no need to change the colours. Just add the sign, thank you very much


Sorry it took so long. Screwed my shoulder.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad2/VienKush/dres4_zpsmqsd6jbf.pnghttp://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad2/VienKush/dres3_zpspanqffva.png
Waz
11 years ago
3 months ago
15
Just took over Gosport Borough and want some kits

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JL7DmjUjeg8uDPx1ADnVJIr4dPYbEr2TrVKRTivU.png

Logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Gosport_Borough_F.C._logo.jpg

Sponsor: aerial direct

The rest is up to you



You want to keep those colours?
Imonsh
10 years ago
1 year ago
33
You want to keep those colours?


Yes I want.
NeimanMarxist
10 years ago
1 year ago
3
Premium
Hello!

Looking for some custom Real Sociedad kits.

I already have the kits with logos and manufacturers, all that is missing is the sponsor.

Here are the kits:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/R0HE9ORgSrcSqWoBD6cePqkr1jBWMqzCXSXF921R.png

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/kM4goClEik46kWnWC1nZLHMDU5srbuM8WHG4NNhp.png

Please use this as the sponsor: Eitb corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EITB#/media/File:Eitb_corp.png

Please keep the kits the same colors. You can change the sponsor logo color so that it looks good with the kit colors.

Thanks in advance!

Also, I notice the OP says you should only make requests every two months? Is that still true? Is there a limit on how often you can make requests?

EddyH
15 years ago
4 years ago
76
Team: AFC Wimbledon

Club logo

http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255476435136F3C11C24DD

Current SS kits for your reference, and for the colours of the kits.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/bxROYVHOO5O3KvkQbn9NpuqzLrEB5qxMHyLWWctV.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/Ar68MWruEBrsQZ9fAAjtvEw78UpWpx6Pe1OnfDif.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/wbmyWPPF2gwHETvU2IDqJsoSUrh21BpG6NF090CH.png
Home, Away & Third

I am an AFC Wimbledon fan, and I've just started a new save to see how far I can take them.
Wimbledon don't usually wear a striped home kit, but I've decided that I would like the away and third to be striped.

Kit Manufacturer - Nike

Sponsor
Please use the same sponsor for the home kit (Football Manager - a great sponsor to have!), but could you make it slightly bigger than on the kit above?
Sponsor image for the home kit (here's the link because it is a big image) - https://inthegame.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/football-manager-14-logo1.png

- For the home kit, could you keep the sponsor the same colours as on the real life kit?
- For the away kit, could you use the Sports Interactive logo, preferably in the original colours - http://segaretro.org/images/2/2b/SportsInteractive_logo.svg
- For the third kit could you use the FM Touch logo (without "2016" ), and like the home kit make it bigger than on the current SS kits - http://tinyurl.com/fmtlogo

Home

Colours - Blue shirt with yellow/gold trim.

I would love to have a home kit that is very similar to the one below. I would like the design to include the same fire effect, because AFC Wimbledon's crest is a two-headed phoenix and AFC Wimbledon rose from the ashes of Wimbledon FC. The gold will need to be more yellow probably, and the red needs to be a blue similar to the blue on the real life SS home kit I have included above. The blue on the real life SS kit that is linked above, is actually slightly too dark, so I'd like the blue to be the smallest bit lighter if you can.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/e6qiyY0pFj44aD9xOoOL8PqzichMFUM6Af5cOyT9.png

Please could you make the yellow lines on the arms of the shirt go all the way down the sleeve, so no space for a sleeve badge.
And if possible could the collar be more like below, so a yellow v-shaped collar.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/LvVHZmUyetG0IFyyx3KKALHfPEpD3itN0PrVHClI.png

Away

Colours - White shirt with blue pinstripes and trim.

This one I would like to be 'pinstriped', and I would love a design similar to Eintracht Frankfurt's kit from this season. I like this because there are not that many stripes, but it looks smart.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/8PHmsawsVr0vW28Kz0VjFwT4v9Bi50nl7Bdmas4O.png

How it looks on FM.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JdqD9vARTmzIhckAZWUR5k8ZJoyUjRIPrUZp8prP.png

Blue Nike tick, and a collar similar to the Frankfurt kit would be perfect.

Could you put the Sports Interactive sponsor logo the same size and in a similar position to the Alfa Romeo sponsor?

I'm not sure if the sponsor will be lost if we use the Sports Interactive logo, as it will be almost the same colour as the pinstriped design.
Feel free to put a thick/thin white circular outline around the sponsor if you think it does overlap or interfere. If that doesn't work you could use the "Football Manager" sponsor in black or something.

Third

Colours - Lighter 'fluorescent' green with thinner, darker green zigzags, with darker green collar & trim.

I would love to have the same design as this Inter Milan fantasy kit I found.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/213n6dz.jpg

Colours should be light green as the main colour (instead of the blue on the Inter Milan shirt), with thinner darker green stripes, but would it be possible to make the darker green zigzags thinner?

If possible could I get a collar like the one below, but in the darker green colour you used for the zigzag pattern.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/DjDAftomRy5ZYWZLxsqyiObdZrbtIdP7r5lXwEhw.png

For the sponsor please use the "Football Manager Touch" logo (without "2016" ), so that there are three different sponsors, like in real life. I'm not sure if Football Manager Handheld is even a thing any more(?!?).
FM Touch logo (remove the "2016" from it) - http://tinyurl.com/fmtlogo

All three kits shouldn't have a label inside the neck, if you can make that happen.
Instead, could you put the Nike "Dri-Fit" writing like has been done on the inside of the Eintracht Frankfurt image?
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/KhRe29igj0YxETrIs3onGvt5XKBShq2Zq9zHEx6X.png

I trust you'll come up with three great kits for me, and I am expecting to wait a while for them, so no rush at all.
Please feel free to simplify any of my demands, because I realise I have been quite specific with my request.

Thank you very much.
Nathan Doe
8 years ago
4 months ago
3
Hope they're ok
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/Gb1NUk4XeFbVDcbrM2FqNwjL3b54Lomow3dlDmAU.pnghttps://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/h48jjWS4mOSCeEq22PW2YqRvIobRQj2NJDxDpKsM.png
Cheers
rmb!


Awesome, thanks!
Waz
11 years ago
3 months ago
15
Just took over Gosport Borough and want some kits

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JL7DmjUjeg8uDPx1ADnVJIr4dPYbEr2TrVKRTivU.png

Logo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Gosport_Borough_F.C._logo.jpg

Sponsor: aerial direct

The rest is up to you


http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad2/VienKush/gos1_zps6mly4yst.pnghttp://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad2/VienKush/gos2_zpsqzqozyjt.png

If you want changes let me know.
Wonders00
11 years ago
6 years ago
19
I've just finished my first season at Man United an would like some new kits please

Could you try to make them as close as the descriptions of these websites. Thanks
Home Away Third
The Home and away kit descriptions are pretty straight forward I think. The pattern on the third could be more complicated but just do your best. Im sure it'll be great.
If you cant do any for some reason just make your own but with the same colours.
rywilson
11 years ago
3 months ago
129
Premium
I've just finished my first season at Man United an would like some new kits please

Could you try to make them as close as the descriptions of these websites. Thanks
Home Away Third
The Home and away kit descriptions are pretty straight forward I think. The pattern on the third could be more complicated but just do your best. Im sure it'll be great.
If you cant do any for some reason just make your own but with the same colours.


http://s17.postimg.org/hwkqunxjz/Utd_H.pnghttp://s17.postimg.org/68qp048f3/Utd_A.pnghttp://s17.postimg.org/yzniq6e8v/Utd_T.png

That's what I got from the descriptions, made the third so if you want the pattern elsewhere or any changes on any of them let me know
Wonders00
11 years ago
6 years ago
19
http://s17.postimg.org/hwkqunxjz/Utd_H.pnghttp://s17.postimg.org/68qp048f3/Utd_A.pnghttp://s17.postimg.org/yzniq6e8v/Utd_T.png

That's what I got from the descriptions, made the third so if you want the pattern elsewhere or any changes on any of them let me know


They're perfect thanks
turya
9 years ago
2 years ago
143
Team: AFC Wimbledon

Club logo

http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255476435136F3C11C24DD

Current SS kits for your reference, and for the colours of the kits.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/bxROYVHOO5O3KvkQbn9NpuqzLrEB5qxMHyLWWctV.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/Ar68MWruEBrsQZ9fAAjtvEw78UpWpx6Pe1OnfDif.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/wbmyWPPF2gwHETvU2IDqJsoSUrh21BpG6NF090CH.png
Home, Away & Third

I am an AFC Wimbledon fan, and I've just started a new save to see how far I can take them.
Wimbledon don't usually wear a striped home kit, but I've decided that I would like the away and third to be striped.

Kit Manufacturer - Nike

Sponsor
Please use the same sponsor for the home kit (Football Manager - a great sponsor to have!), but could you make it slightly bigger than on the kit above?
Sponsor image for the home kit (here's the link because it is a big image) - https://inthegame.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/football-manager-14-logo1.png

- For the home kit, could you keep the sponsor the same colours as on the real life kit?
- For the away kit, could you use the Sports Interactive logo, preferably in the original colours - http://segaretro.org/images/2/2b/SportsInteractive_logo.svg
- For the third kit could you use the FM Touch logo (without "2016" ), and like the home kit make it bigger than on the current SS kits - http://tinyurl.com/fmtlogo

Home

Colours - Blue shirt with yellow/gold trim.

I would love to have a home kit that is very similar to the one below. I would like the design to include the same fire effect, because AFC Wimbledon's crest is a two-headed phoenix and AFC Wimbledon rose from the ashes of Wimbledon FC. The gold will need to be more yellow probably, and the red needs to be a blue similar to the blue on the real life SS home kit I have included above. The blue on the real life SS kit that is linked above, is actually slightly too dark, so I'd like the blue to be the smallest bit lighter if you can.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/e6qiyY0pFj44aD9xOoOL8PqzichMFUM6Af5cOyT9.png

Please could you make the yellow lines on the arms of the shirt go all the way down the sleeve, so no space for a sleeve badge.
And if possible could the collar be more like below, so a yellow v-shaped collar.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/LvVHZmUyetG0IFyyx3KKALHfPEpD3itN0PrVHClI.png

Away

Colours - White shirt with blue pinstripes and trim.

This one I would like to be 'pinstriped', and I would love a design similar to Eintracht Frankfurt's kit from this season. I like this because there are not that many stripes, but it looks smart.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/8PHmsawsVr0vW28Kz0VjFwT4v9Bi50nl7Bdmas4O.png

How it looks on FM.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JdqD9vARTmzIhckAZWUR5k8ZJoyUjRIPrUZp8prP.png

Blue Nike tick, and a collar similar to the Frankfurt kit would be perfect.

Could you put the Sports Interactive sponsor logo the same size and in a similar position to the Alfa Romeo sponsor?

I'm not sure if the sponsor will be lost if we use the Sports Interactive logo, as it will be almost the same colour as the pinstriped design.
Feel free to put a thick/thin white circular outline around the sponsor if you think it does overlap or interfere. If that doesn't work you could use the "Football Manager" sponsor in black or something.

Third

Colours - Lighter 'fluorescent' green with thinner, darker green zigzags, with darker green collar & trim.

I would love to have the same design as this Inter Milan fantasy kit I found.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/213n6dz.jpg

Colours should be light green as the main colour (instead of the blue on the Inter Milan shirt), with thinner darker green stripes, but would it be possible to make the darker green zigzags thinner?

If possible could I get a collar like the one below, but in the darker green colour you used for the zigzag pattern.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/DjDAftomRy5ZYWZLxsqyiObdZrbtIdP7r5lXwEhw.png

For the sponsor please use the "Football Manager Touch" logo (without "2016" ), so that there are three different sponsors, like in real life. I'm not sure if Football Manager Handheld is even a thing any more(?!?).
FM Touch logo (remove the "2016" from it) - http://tinyurl.com/fmtlogo

All three kits shouldn't have a label inside the neck, if you can make that happen.
Instead, could you put the Nike "Dri-Fit" writing like has been done on the inside of the Eintracht Frankfurt image?
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/KhRe29igj0YxETrIs3onGvt5XKBShq2Zq9zHEx6X.png

I trust you'll come up with three great kits for me, and I am expecting to wait a while for them, so no rush at all.
Please feel free to simplify any of my demands, because I realise I have been quite specific with my request.

Thank you very much.

Hi,I try to do my best, I hope it will suit you.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/ZfndtrcuMTHtS8oEn8T1HRaHUzWFoaxIDMlT6UPN.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/iqWD4FrEVGvOaDqloiSWoBaGzbaYufs4TlatPIl4.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/yLjpsofZEgwZGUZo8R2J7imH1UxyN26n3tFlYswD.png
EddyH
15 years ago
4 years ago
76
Hi,I try to do my best, I hope it will suit you.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/ZfndtrcuMTHtS8oEn8T1HRaHUzWFoaxIDMlT6UPN.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/iqWD4FrEVGvOaDqloiSWoBaGzbaYufs4TlatPIl4.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/yLjpsofZEgwZGUZo8R2J7imH1UxyN26n3tFlYswD.png

Thanks so much. They are fantastic.

Would it be possible to reverse the blue on the fire design on the home shirt? So that it is lighter are the top, and darker below.
Like on the original reference I provided.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/e6qiyY0pFj44aD9xOoOL8PqzichMFUM6Af5cOyT9.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/ZfndtrcuMTHtS8oEn8T1HRaHUzWFoaxIDMlT6UPN.png
turya
9 years ago
2 years ago
143
Thanks so much. They are fantastic.

Would it be possible to reverse the blue on the fire design on the home shirt? So that it is lighter are the top, and darker below.
Like on the original reference I provided.
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/e6qiyY0pFj44aD9xOoOL8PqzichMFUM6Af5cOyT9.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/ZfndtrcuMTHtS8oEn8T1HRaHUzWFoaxIDMlT6UPN.png


https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/eD1qwLuFDxtVAmiluBIdZzBjzDkabX9v5f06w1jF.png
EddyH
15 years ago
4 years ago
76

One million thanks to you. That is perfect. I am very happy.
AbDaveilliers
13 years ago
3 weeks ago
35
Premium
Hi,

Would it be possible to get a kit with the following badges please?

Badge 1
Badge2
Badge3

Badge three is my preferred choice but the black and white version if possible please. If that is too difficult than badge 2 is the next preference. Colour would be the same blue as you will see in badge 2, a light blue and with white.

No sponsors as I hate sponsors on shirts.

Home: Blue and white

Away: White and black

Kit Maker: Adidas
turya
9 years ago
2 years ago
143
Hi,

Would it be possible to get a kit with the following badges please?

Badge 1
Badge2
Badge3

Badge three is my preferred choice but the black and white version if possible please. If that is too difficult than badge 2 is the next preference. Colour would be the same blue as you will see in badge 2, a light blue and with white.

No sponsors as I hate sponsors on shirts.

Home: Blue and white

Away: White and black

Kit Maker: Adidas

Hope it was you expect :

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/1quwB6aQ2I33v6KAXou8qi9xgJ4jDIE3E9m0y6Rr.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/h0LsJCdMbRxIBPtjimFsNECuUh5HiWtdwnfFGFS4.png
AbDaveilliers
13 years ago
3 weeks ago
35
Premium
Hope it was you expect :

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/1quwB6aQ2I33v6KAXou8qi9xgJ4jDIE3E9m0y6Rr.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/h0LsJCdMbRxIBPtjimFsNECuUh5HiWtdwnfFGFS4.png


Not what I expected at all mate but they are of exceptional quality! Thank you very much, I am very grateful and I look forward to using them! Now I just need to get that badge sorted out for the official club badge!

Legend sir!
turya
9 years ago
2 years ago
143
Not what I expected at all mate but they are of exceptional quality! Thank you very much, I am very grateful and I look forward to using them! Now I just need to get that badge sorted out for the official club badge!

Legend sir!

Thanks for your back, here is the badge in normal and smallest sizes :

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/uxgZUCkG01TwJdFBggiuPaieJUqo8wnuqTVZTs1h.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/oga45TeX7rDCYdtzn03f4PHevEYKpKJU9EAgigNV.png
AbDaveilliers
13 years ago
3 weeks ago
35
Premium
Thanks for your back, here is the badge in normal and smallest sizes :

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/uxgZUCkG01TwJdFBggiuPaieJUqo8wnuqTVZTs1h.png https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/oga45TeX7rDCYdtzn03f4PHevEYKpKJU9EAgigNV.png


Legend! Thank you! Have ask you in 2 months time to do kits and badges for the other two in my original post. I know the rules state only once every 2 months! So I shall return

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