FM22 Cyprus lower leagues (down to 4th level) 1.3

Thanks for your update! Can you please fix yellow card rules? I don't know how its irl, but 1 match ban after 2 yellow cards (and then every additional one)  in different matches seems unplayable 

Hi

Thanks for this hint. I will fix it as soon as possible and reupload.

Sorry, it seems nothing has changed 😢 downloaded new file and checked rule - same one

open file in editor and change the rule

Thanks! Now I get you! I fixed everything.

Sad to see TheNotoriousPr0 on FMScout stole it from me and labelled it as his own, but that's the internet I suppose.

What exactly did I steal my friend?

In case you don't know you me, can find more in this page https://www.facebook.com/TheNotoriousPr0

Before accusing make sure, you double check kiddo, before using my name to get attention. If you compare our files, they have nothing in common.

You are calling a 50 year old guy a kiddo. Kiddo.

We are a community that shares work and achievements, and that is great. But up to 10 there was NO league made, so I wanted to start this rolling with something completely crazy, so I picked Cyprus. 11th you and this other guy uploaded Cyprus pyramid on FM scout with some changes. Oh yeah, total coincidence. Everybody loves Cyprus.

This RealSmokePL was completely shameless, as he just downloaded it and uploaded there without any changes, but… You get me. Cyprus was my first pyramid I spent few hours on and this situation makes me keep all other leagues I do for my own.

Imagine being 50 years old, and making accusations with no proof at all, just mentioning someone's name to get attention.

I firmly believe that you haven't even compared the 2 files. I downloaded your file, and our files are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT with a whole total other changes. I suggest you download my file and check it too, before accusing my of stealing you. You should be ashamed using someone's name who is in the community for almost 10 years. I am Greek and I have been creating the Cypriot format for my packs since 2017. So, OF COURSE I know how to build the format. I don't care about the other guy you are mentioning, just just drop it, and remove my name from your post. Or at least download and make comparisons before talking publicily about me stealing you.

Hellp , did you fix the problem with the yellow cards ? If yes what i have to do ? 

thanks for this, you're a legend, will you be doing the greek lower leagues also?

Hi!

Yes, everything is fixed and file reuploaded, so you should download it once again and if you have already started your save, you gonna have to start it once again.

Hi!

Honestly - no. I just wanted to add my brick to the wall of FM leagues this year, I made Cyprus and Macedonia lower leagues, but that's the limit of my spare time.

Thanks and no need to explain mate 

It's appreciated and if other user want more they can have a go themselves 😉

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/58016/please-read-before-posting 

if you have a request use the request thread

My friend sorry but you forgot the play offs , when the league finish , 2 groups are made , relagation and championship , each one of 6 teams ,and they play again 2 games per team 

Thanks for the effort in making this!

Edit - same as previous poster - the top division should split into two groups as in the base FM game

Sad to see RealSmokePL on FMScout stole it from me and labelled it as his own, but that's the internet I suppose.

This RealSmokePL was completely shameless, as he just downloaded it and uploaded there without any changes, but

Mate, I have no idea who you are nor have I ever seen or used your file and most definitely have not stolen anything, so before spreading random accusations make sure that they are at least correct, I've made my own file as when I was making it there were no other and I enjoy playing in Cyprus.

My file doesn't even go down to the 4th division but the 3rd, so why would I remove a division level if I actually stole it?

I just compared your and my file and they are completely different so before spatting out blatant nonsense and false accusations maybe compare both files beforehand? 

On the images you already see a clear difference, and that's without showing all the rule differences, squad selection/registration differences and literally everything

Now I'd love for you to remove my name from your post as you're accusing me of something I haven't done.

Mate. Don't make people fools. I uploaded this file on 10th, you transfered it on FMScout on 11th - with all my wrongly placed league names and mistakes I was fixing later on. After that, you made your own implementations. On 10th, my Cyprus lower leagues was the only fmf league file that anyone created for FM22. What is the probability that out of 100+ countries, two people were editing Cyprus at exactly the same time?

I remember your file was identical (for example you had A ‘Katigoria) and after two days you changed that name to Cyta (for sponsorship reasons). You also had STOK Elite Division - you just removed it. You just dug into my file and done your fixes. And just as the pr0’s file is different enough so I can get over it (even though I know he also benefit from what I made), you weren't that smart. Get out from here.

I understand our community is sharing their work, but editing a file one day after its release and attributing it to yourself is just plain weak and the only thing I have learned is that it is a waste of my private time to create any other leagues in the future, because there is no even a minimal respect and appreciation.

I won't be involved in this argument anymore because it's a waste of my time again. Both pr0 and you and I know what happened and how it happened. That's it. Just don't be so insolent in the future.

You're very immature for someone that is 50 years old, I didn't even change the league names I just use the default ones in the Name fix from FMscout, only changing Cypriot Lower Leagues to STOK Elite Division since that's the name I found on the wiki, but even than I only changed it in the name fix file https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STOK_Elite_Division

I only ever use this site for logos and kits and only stumbled upon your thread today, what idiotic reason would I have from stealing your file, just what? Precisely, none and I didn't do it.

If you actually looked at my file you would've known that I hadn't changed any names like you claim, only thing I did in the database was add youth leagues and teams, and I looked at your file, it looks like it just made in “basic rules”, now why would I need to steal that? It took me a couple minutes to make it myself, using the CFA site and wikipedia for rules, and proper format + squad registration rules from the help of users on FMScout.

Your and my file are nothing alike, and for no reason you're just trying to blame someone, first Pr0 now me?

Again, quit your blatant lying and maybe accept the fact that other users might make files for leagues you too make, on FMscout there's like 3 files from different users for Poland, but it seems like you just can't accept that fact.

So for the last time, remove my name from this thread and stop spreading blatant lies for no reason other than just the fact that your ego is too big.

If you were just willing to be cooperative you'd take the few minutes of your precious time and compare our files to realize they have nothing in common, you'd be finally able to sleep peacefully and stop falsely accusing people of theft, because I'm not so pathetic to be stealing someone's fmf file and reuploading it as my own, considering I'm quite experienced with the editor and prefer the fun of making my own files,

Here's my file without the FMscout name fix, clearly no changes to league names like you claim, you'd know if you actually looked at my file.

I can confirm that @RealSmokePL did not steal this work, i've compared the two and they're completely different and i've now warned @szymanski9966 because you should be very, very sure before throwing around those sorts of accusations.

In the editor you can load up the file and export as XML and then put it into any text comparison tool to see similarities.

File > Load Editor Data > *select fmf* > File > Export > *save as xml*

Then try something like this: https://www.diffchecker.com/diff 

Here's a screenshot of the two files compared.

 

Excuse me?

Man, my Cypriot league was the first league created for FM22 by customer. The next day it appeared UNCHANGED on FMScout, and labelled as @RealSmokePL  work. In included my descriptions, my bugs, which I was fixing afterwards. Of course, RealSmokePL did the same - he also improved the league, but it doesn't change the fact that he just stole the job at first place. No question, no thank you, no mentioning me.

In your opinion, if I copy the entire plot of Lord of the Rings, but call it Lord of the Apples, replace eagles with lizards, orcs with pigs, and Gandalf with Budalf, that means I did all the work myself? No, that doesn't mean that. Even RealSmokePL itself confirms that he has changed the fmf file on the basis of my file, and he even confirms it in one of his comments above. Is this me getting the warning? Well done.

The only thing this situation has taught me is to just never again spend my private time creating something for the community and sharing it with others. I will still enjoy playing Football Manager, download files, and will never upload anything on sortitoutsi. I know what happened, your warning and Smoke's crying doesn't change that.

Have a good life!

I've not, nor will I ever admit to doing something I haven't done, but since this issue is resolved then I'll just move on and try to forget this even happened. 

Good luck on the rest of your work and a nice day. 

I have had my work ‘stolen’ by various people previously but I was able to eventually have them taken down on various sites

the biggest kicker was one files was extensive continental advanced rule editing which this person was passing off as his own and getting paid for it, so it does happen and will continue to happen

the only way to stop it is for SI to have a way of locking a file-password protected etc I have suggested this to them this way a file is released but cant have any further edits unless it is opened using the password so a file is created by an author who puts his name to the file which can be clearly seen in editor or notepad so there can be no dispute.

I don't agree with locking files, if someone spends months creating a lower league English DB and I want to give Potters Bar United £1b for fun I should be able to edit that, I shouldn't have to redo all the same work to create my own lower league DB just for that one change?

It's also really useful to be able to export/import XML and if they start locking down files they'll have to get rid of that, which would be very destructive to community projects.

You can easily compare the XML of two files to see if they are infact identical because XML is always appended not edited, that should be enough to avoid the very, very few arguments that occur. I definitely don't think it's worth inflicting everyone with locked down files just for those few cases when thefts happen.

We have the ingame editor for that 😉 

The ige fmrte would cover that  or you could create a separate file to run alongside it using the pre game editor

It's happened to me several times and after many hours of work it's a real kick in the guts especially when they made money out of it too 

Yep Pre game and FMRTE would do it too😉

That was just an example, there are obviously lots of examples were the in game editor would not suffice.

Also if I wanted to create a Welsh Lower League DB it's very likely I would look at someone else's Scottish Lower League DB as a guide on how to do it.

Similarly if I wanted to create a new nation with Game of Thrones Characters and someone else has already created one for Marvel Characters is it absurd for me to build on that other person's work?

The idea that everyone has to struggle over the same hurdles is absurd, there's nothing wrong with building on the work of others if credit is given and the community would be alot worse off if that wasn't possible.

And that's exactly something you don't get in here - all my regrets are not about someone developing my job, but that a day later my job was being redone and thrown in as theirs, without crediting me with even one word. That's what I try to explain. A lesson for me for the future.