Footygamer
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@Girafi did you get a chance to look at the FMF?

M.C
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Bit of a random one…in the SS Kits Browse section, for some reason Jong Alax appear as a team in Ligue 1?

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/2/267

 

I've just looked around and also note that they are in that part of the overall database, too: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/team/856118.

 

Not sure what the process to resolve this would be, so thought I would flag.

Qvordrup
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By maconnolly 25 April 2025 - 10:39 AM UTC 

Bit of a random one…in the SS Kits Browse section, for some reason Jong Alax appear as a team in Ligue 1?

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/2/267

 

I've just looked around and also note that they are in that part of the overall database, too: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/team/856118.

 

Not sure what the process to resolve this would be, so thought I would flag.

@Footygamer Another one to fix when you correct the danish leagues as well 😕

 

om3ga
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Hello guys, I liked your update but I have issues with New Players added. I deleted the fmf file named new players but still they appear in the game. This resulted in several duplicates, which absolutely destroys the game feel

Footygamer
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@om3ga  The new players are no longer in the “new players.fmf” file they are in the “changes” file this allows us to publish new players daily rather than every few months as before.

 

 “new players.fmf” is empty, it only exists is to overwrite previous ones so people don't accidentally wind up with two files and get duplicates. It's easier to include an empty file like this than ask thousands of people to remember to delete a file.

 

People shouldn't get duplicates unless they are using a new players file from another update and i'm not aware of any reason why that should be necessary.

 

But i'm happy to listen to feedback and alternative ideas if people are able to explain in detail what they are trying to do, why and how it can be incorporated into our update without affecting everyone else 🙂

Melih Salih Menteşe
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Hello everyone. The prize money in Turkish Leagues distorts the realism. How can i edit this?

Footygamer
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@Melih Salih Menteşe can you give more details. Has the prize money been changed in one of our files or are you saying the default version of the game has bad prize money set?

 

Can you be specific about what prize money is set now and what you think it should be?

Doddo04
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Hi ,

is it not possible to change the calendar of the game that we start in 2024 and not in 2023 with a new save?

Footygamer
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No there's no way.

 

You may see some people using a “real results” file to fast forward the game but it's not possible to do knockout competitions so the wrong teams qualify for Europe and the wrong teams get promoted and relegated through playoffs.

 

Our way is much better, all the contract dates and birth dates are updated as well as player histories, the only issue is the way the date appears on screen.

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By Footygamer 05 May 2025 - 23:04 PM UTC 

@Melih Salih Menteşe can you give more details. Has the prize money been changed in one of our files or are you saying the default version of the game has bad prize money set?

 

Can you be specific about what prize money is set now and what you think it should be?

 

It has been changed in your files. In the default version of the game, it was like the 2023/24 season. For example, the team that became the champion of the Turkish Super League was earning a little more than 1 million euros in prize money, but in your files, it earns 17 million euros. This has changed in the second league too. These prize money spoils the realism. If you want to learn more about real money prizes, you can learn from chat gpt. It shows many sources.

Footygamer
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@sirEmresto this is from your file I think, can you come in and discuss why you've set the prize money the way you have.

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By Footygamer 02 May 2025 - 14:05 PM UTC 

@om3ga  The new players are no longer in the “new players.fmf” file they are in the “changes” file this allows us to publish new players daily rather than every few months as before.

 

 “new players.fmf” is empty, it only exists is to overwrite previous ones so people don't accidentally wind up with two files and get duplicates. It's easier to include an empty file like this than ask thousands of people to remember to delete a file.

 

People shouldn't get duplicates unless they are using a new players file from another update and i'm not aware of any reason why that should be necessary.

 

But i'm happy to listen to feedback and alternative ideas if people are able to explain in detail what they are trying to do, why and how it can be incorporated into our update without affecting everyone else 🙂

 

Could you please create another version that separates the new players from the other changes? While I appreciate your efforts, I believe the random and inaccurate data for the new players is negatively impacting the playing experience and diminishing the sense of realism. I’d prefer to maintain the original approach.

M.C
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By jeffkei 09 May 2025 - 14:39 PM UTC 

Could you please create another version that separates the new players from the other changes? While I appreciate your efforts, I believe the random and inaccurate data for the new players is negatively impacting the playing experience and diminishing the sense of realism. I’d prefer to maintain the original approach.

 

Could I ask you to elaborate on the comments around ‘random’ and ‘inaccurate’ data, please?

 

For context - I'm one of the staff here and I am currently undertaking some efforts to update some of the New Player data wherever viable. As an example, I have found ~400 that had strangely-formatted names and no natural foot (e.g. both Left Foot and Right Foot were the ‘weak foot’).

 

In terms of random data - of course, there's a level of randomisation in terms of their ability; because many of them haven't had CA/PA configured. Similarly, some of the players don't have positions set. I do intend to turn my attention to those without a position, next. But there are a lot. And the general concept here is that this is intended to be a community-contribution update. So if there are specific players you have come across in-game and you believe they have bad data, I would invite you to submit changes to them - they will then be moderated and, ultimately, the data update becomes more accurate.

 

In terms of inaccurate data - a similar query, but I do not know what the ‘inaccurate’ data would be. There's been validation done to ensure players who are added exist in real life and, wherever possible, things like their name, DOB, Nationality and so on have been verified against reliable, external sources. As above, I would encourage you - and anyone else - who comes across inaccuracies to submit corrections.

 

I am one of the team that moderates these submissions and I would welcome as many contributions as possible. Otherwise, I'll go through them myself - but it'll take some time!

 

Personally, I don't think making the new players separated really solves anything. A better solution is to correct the data to be as accurate as possible - at which point, everyone benefits from the most up-to-date database, with the most accurate data, possible.

om3ga
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By Footygamer 02 May 2025 - 14:05 PM UTC 

@om3ga  The new players are no longer in the “new players.fmf” file they are in the “changes” file this allows us to publish new players daily rather than every few months as before.

 

 “new players.fmf” is empty, it only exists is to overwrite previous ones so people don't accidentally wind up with two files and get duplicates. It's easier to include an empty file like this than ask thousands of people to remember to delete a file.

 

People shouldn't get duplicates unless they are using a new players file from another update and i'm not aware of any reason why that should be necessary.

 

But i'm happy to listen to feedback and alternative ideas if people are able to explain in detail what they are trying to do, why and how it can be incorporated into our update without affecting everyone else 🙂

 

Hi, thanks for the reply, I can't remember all of the duplicate players that I found, but I'll attach one of the ones I remember, I don't have db files with new players created, I don't normally do that because I hate seeing faceless players and unless you start adding pics for new players I'll pass on this FM24 Data Update.

 

 

This Umaró Buaró player is in the original db, the new version of the player has the same d.o.b. except that the new added player is one year older, but clearly the same fellow

M.C
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By om3ga 12 May 2025 - 09:00 AM UTC 

Hi, thanks for the reply, I can't remember all of the duplicate players that I found, but I'll attach one of the ones I remember, I don't have db files with new players created, I don't normally do that because I hate seeing faceless players and unless you start adding pics for new players I'll pass on this FM24 Data Update.

 

This Umaró Buaró player is in the original db, the new version of the player has the same d.o.b. except that the new added player is one year older, but clearly the same fellow

 

Thanks for reporting the duplicate. I have just removed the new player that was submitted (and accepted), which caused this duplication.

 

On the note of the facepack for the new players - that is something that a lot of work is going into behind the scenes. It is absolutely the plan to build a facepack to support those newly-added players - but the first hurdle to overcome was ensuring the Unique IDs were persistent across multiple saves, otherwise there's just no way to actually have the images mapped to the right players, reliably. We think that particular hurdle has been tackled, so watch this space as far as face images goes. There is a fair amount of work involved, end-to-end.

David Shaw
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Is there a reason you have moved Barcelona from the Nou Camp to a random stadium please?

M.C
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By David Shaw 13 May 2025 - 14:34 PM UTC 

Is there a reason you have moved Barcelona from the Nou Camp to a random stadium please?

 

I do not think this is the doing of the Data Update…I have just looked at the default 24.3 Database and it has Barcelona playing their home games at the Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys.

 

As best I can tell, it is set up to be their temporary home ground in-game, which matches the situation in real-life, as the Nou Camp is undergoing renovations.

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By maconnolly 13 May 2025 - 14:49 PM UTC 

I do not think this is the doing of the Data Update…I have just looked at the default 24.3 Database and it has Barcelona playing their home games at the Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys.

 

As best I can tell, it is set up to be their temporary home ground in-game, which matches the situation in real-life, as the Nou Camp is undergoing renovations.

yeah thanks i did some research and found they had moved from the nou camp i didn’t even know they had least i know i don’t have to start a new save 😂 

 

Footygamer
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By jeffkei 09 May 2025 - 14:39 PM UTC 

Could you please create another version that separates the new players from the other changes? While I appreciate your efforts, I believe the random and inaccurate data for the new players is negatively impacting the playing experience and diminishing the sense of realism. I’d prefer to maintain the original approach.

 

Just quoting you so you get a notification incase you missed @maconnolly reply.

 

Can you be more specific about what you mean?

 

Obviously we'd like to fix any issues you uncovered, just telling us to make it deletable rather than describing the issue and giving us a chance to fix it is a little frustrating.

 

To be clear, we're not aware of players having “random and inaccurate data” and would appreciate more specific examples.

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By Footygamer 13 May 2025 - 19:37 PM UTC 

Just quoting you so you get a notification incase you missed @maconnolly reply.

 

Can you be more specific about what you mean?

 

Obviously we'd like to fix any issues you uncovered, just telling us to make it deletable rather than describing the issue and giving us a chance to fix it is a little frustrating.

 

To be clear, we're not aware of players having “random and inaccurate data” and would appreciate more specific examples.

 

I think it also has something to do with using other creator files. 
If you put players in the changes.fmf file and someone downloads a fmf that adds players you get duplicate players. If it was still in the new players.fmf file, then people just delete the new players.fmf and are done with it.

Now they need to use the changes.fmf file and pregame editor to delete all the duplicate players. 

Dont know for a fact if that is the real reason but because you changed the way how you are adding players, i guess this is it 😉 

darrendazman
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French system update last summer . You guys have u.s concarneu playing in the 2nd division in france but they are in the national?

Footygamer
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By MrGizMo 18 May 2025 - 17:22 PM UTC 

I think it also has something to do with using other creator files. 
If you put players in the changes.fmf file and someone downloads a fmf that adds players you get duplicate players. If it was still in the new players.fmf file, then people just delete the new players.fmf and are done with it.

Now they need to use the changes.fmf file and pregame editor to delete all the duplicate players. 

Dont know for a fact if that is the real reason but because you changed the way how you are adding players, i guess this is it 😉 

 

Yes I think this is probably part of it, but doesn't really answer the question.

 

“I want you to go to extra effort of keeping them separate so I can just delete it and use a different file” isn't very convincing.

 

I'd rather people say

 

“The reason I don't want to use your file is because XYZ issues”

 

That way we can try and work on fixing XYZ issues and acknowledge that people need an alternative until those issues are fixed.

botos.zoltan87
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Hi, from the 2025/2026 season in Hungary if a team use 5 hungarian player (inc. 1 U21) in the starting line up (for 90 min) they will get money prize like in Austria.  

In Austria you need 12 homegrown player in the match squad for 9 games and your team get around 550k euro, but in Hungary you will get that and of the season and you need average 5 homegrown player with 1 u21 after 33 rounds. 

 

 

First division prize: 1.25m euro

Second Division 750K euro

 

Is that possible to put this in the data update? I can proove it if I have to. 

JohnPrice1982
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Hi guys, thanks for all of your hard work. When do you think we will get an update with the correct teams in leagues for next season e.g. Sunderland back in the premier league? I am desperate for a new start as the game has become really stale. Thanks.

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By JohnPrice1982 26 May 2025 - 14:41 PM UTC 

Hi guys, thanks for all of your hard work. When do you think we will get an update with the correct teams in leagues for next season e.g. Sunderland back in the premier league? I am desperate for a new start as the game has become really stale. Thanks.

 

This is the main thing that the staff team are going to be working on imminently - of course, there will be a small amount of lead-time and I don't want to commit specifics on behalf of other members of the team who are working on all of this alongside myself. It's worth noting that, in most cases, we prefer to wait for the promotions/relegations of all divisions to be completed before updating each nation's file. For example, in England, we're about a week away from the lower leagues being finalised.

 

I would expect England, naturally, to be a priority as soon as it can be completed. I'd certainly expect it to be days after everything is decided, not weeks.

 

As an aside, we are also working to ensure all playable nations get the same treatment - including some catch-up work wherever seasons have finished but not been reflected. Definitely, over the days, the efforts will ramp up as lots of promotions/relegations across various nations get decided around this time.

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By Footygamer 07 May 2025 - 20:54 PM UTC 

No there's no way.

 

You may see some people using a “real results” file to fast forward the game but it's not possible to do knockout competitions so the wrong teams qualify for Europe and the wrong teams get promoted and relegated through playoffs.

 

Our way is much better, all the contract dates and birth dates are updated as well as player histories, the only issue is the way the date appears on screen.

 

How does this work with the future transfers for this window? For example, Huijsen to Madrid will go through in July 2024 but the game starts in July 2023. Is there any way to separate the transfers in a file maybe? I want to start the game from this summer, I don't care about the date but I'd like to start the summer transfer window as it is in real life now with Huijsen at Madrid etc at the very start of my save

Is this possible?

M.C
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By Marcus Banks 26 May 2025 - 17:46 PM UTC 

How does this work with the future transfers for this window? For example, Huijsen to Madrid will go through in July 2024 but the game starts in July 2023. Is there any way to separate the transfers in a file maybe? I want to start the game from this summer, I don't care about the date but I'd like to start the summer transfer window as it is in real life now with Huijsen at Madrid etc at the very start of my save

Is this possible?

 

That is the way most people like to play - and that is fundamentally what the ‘standard’ version of the Data Update does.

 

When transfers have happened in real-life, they will be reflected into the Data Update as ‘having happened’. To use the Dean Huijsen example: it's currently a future transfer, set to go through on 1st June 2025 (which matches the real-life situation). On 1st June 2025, the Data Update will process that transfer and so the version released on that day/the day after will have him at Real Madrid.

 

The point in time when you can have Dean Huijsen at Real Madrid from the start is going to be the first version of the Data Update after the transfer goes through in real-life. Essentially, you're about 5 days early from right now.

 

I do think there is a point in time (soon, but not quite yet) when things like ages, contracts and so on will all be rolled back the extra year. I do not know exactly what calendar date that will be. The way to think about it is right now we are right at the end of the 2024/25 season. Soon we'll be at the start of the 2025/26 season.

Marcus Banks
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By maconnolly 26 May 2025 - 18:01 PM UTC 

That is the way most people like to play - and that is fundamentally what the ‘standard’ version of the Data Update does.

 

When transfers have happened in real-life, they will be reflected into the Data Update as ‘having happened’. To use the Dean Huijsen example: it's currently a future transfer, set to go through on 1st June 2025 (which matches the real-life situation). On 1st June 2025, the Data Update will process that transfer and so the version released on that day/the day after will have him at Real Madrid.

 

The point in time when you can have Dean Huijsen at Real Madrid from the start is going to be the first version of the Data Update after the transfer goes through in real-life. Essentially, you're about 5 days early from right now.

 

I do think there is a point in time (soon, but not quite yet) when things like ages, contracts and so on will all be rolled back the extra year. I do not know exactly what calendar date that will be. The way to think about it is right now we are right at the end of the 2024/25 season. Soon we'll be at the start of the 2025/26 season.

 

Yeah that makes sense mate, it's a complex issue so I understand.

Basically just wait until June 1st to start my new save and should be all good haha, hopefully Wirtz has joined Liverpool by then!

Benjy Bacon
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Has the prem been updated yet? For example Burnley in the prem? If not how long does it take? Thanks!

M.C
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By Benjy Bacon 26 May 2025 - 21:38 PM UTC 

Has the prem been updated yet? For example Burnley in the prem? If not how long does it take? Thanks!

 

Please have a look a few messages up - specifically here: https://sortitoutsi.net/comments/get/824919.

 

Realistically, I'd expect the 2025/26 structure to be reflected once all of the promotions/relegations in England have been finalised. In reality, what is left to be decided is who will be promoted from the National League, with the play-off final scheduled for Sunday 1st June.

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