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Tteam Thana'
I paid for the Database and I love the way people are so active about change in Player CA and PA .. that really makes FM2024 stay updated in this situation from SI.
But the way you guys over-hype the players make the game less unenjoyable, at least for me .. I played 1 Liverpool save and my Jayden Danns got PA of 190 … I thought something might be wrong so I decide to load another save and just found out his PA is actually -95 (from 160 to 190) .. that's Vini Junior / Pietro Pellegri level when they were wonderkids in FM2018.. (they both got -95 PA) .. Another player who got -95 in Liverpool is Ngumoha .. which probably okay for this lad .. But for Jayden Dans .. I love him but that's too much!
Thanks for reading this..
M.C
The best advice I can give is for you to submit values that you think are appropriate. Community submissions are what drive these things and, of course, people have different opinions and people will disagree with one another, but the more people that submit CA/PA values for different players, the more the update can reflect the popular view.
Tteam Thana'
Sorry, I missed something.. I just found out that Will Wright got -10 PA (170 to 200), so Liverpool got 2 of -9.5 and 1 of -10 youth players this year..
Yeah since Liverpool never got even one -9.5 youth player player before .. let alone -10 .. how even that make sense ? If you want to suck your players d* do that in your own save with editor, not in database everyone paying money for it?
Jayden Dans got -7 PA in official FM2024, what he've done to earn this -95 PA this year? From making 5 league cup appearances and scoring 2 goals ?
And for Will Wright .. I really have no words.. giving -10 PA to a player who just made 2 EFL league two is .. well I don't call those opinion .. and to both who did this and who approved it, I hope you kids enjoy your things..
BTW thank you for your reply since you're the only one here..
M.C
For what it's worth, I agree with you on the overall concept that the community has a tendency to overrate (versus underrate) players in their submissions. As someone that is part of the team moderating things, we see a lot of submissions that appear to be people submitting ‘their favourites’ for higher CA/PA values.
However, I also think it's important to maintain a balance - in the sense that how much we know about all of these players is limited. I can't say that I've ever heard of Will Wright, but for all I know he might be really highly regarded at Liverpool and he might be shining in the youth ranks. That would equate to a high potential ability in FM.
I still think the right thing to do, given this is a community site driven by community submissions, is to submit your opposing view. For Will Wright and/or any other newly-created players in Liverpool, you can submit new CA/PA values via the web form on the first table at https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/team/676.
For Jayden Danns, or any player in the original database, the concept is the same - you browse to the club and then you'll see boxes for submitting CA/PA values. When I moderate, I do so under the concept that anything that I think is a reasonable submission will be accepted. Obvious outliers or spam submissions are rejected.
In terms of the CA/PA values for players in the original database, the Data Update factors in all approved submissions, which is why I am specifically encouraging you to make submissions. In simple terms, the posts you have made on the forums won't alter things, but your submissions can.
markhannu
Will Wright was recently signed by Liverpool from Stockport for around £200k
he never made a start for Stockport but the second he signed for Liverpool someone submitted a change from -75 to -10 based solely on he now plays for Liverpool, the lad hasnt even scored a u21 goal for Liverpool in 5 appearances yet he is now rated as one of the best players in the game
he might very well turn out to be a good player but a -10 is not justified at this stage in his career
Tteam Thana'
This is what I'm trying to say though.. giving -10 PA to Will Wright meaning he's the best wonderkid in the game right now..
If someone finds that make-sense .. maybe they're in different world of football with me.. (Even I'm Liverpool fan who thinks and wants him to be good)
Maybe I'll try to submit attribute myself in the future when I have more time.. but for now .. to those who responsible for it.. please be more real on the Database..
Thanks to both of you who reply..