Troubleshooting Football Manager Data Update Installation - How to install Football Manager Databases

I have a problem with the last data updates since september, all recent players transfers are ok, example : Isaak from newcastle to liverpool, but the players who were in loan in 23/24 are still in loan starting a new game, example : djalo are still in loan at porto from juventus or conceiçao in loan at juventus from porto. Plus, the biggest problem is that several teams do not have managers all over europe, example : sporting cp, and the worst there are several  managers in place like if it was the 23/24 season while your data updates are corresponding to 25/26 season, how do you explain that? Until august there were no problems with your daily recent updates and now that.

Like also all members staff are not in their places for 25/26 like if it was the 23/24 while all new players transfers are ok

It might be best to share a screenshot of your ‘editor data’ folder showing all files you currently have in there?

It sounds to me like you may have duplicate or missing files from this Data Update, or you have other/similar files from other packs/sites etc….

Have you tried starting a new game (as a test) with ONLY the latest files in your ‘editor data’ folder from this Data Update? Might be worth making a backup of your current ‘editor data’ folder (outside of your Football Manager 2024 folder structure) and create an entirely new/blank ‘editor data’ folder, then just put the latest files from this Data Update in there (excluding the optional ones) and see how that looks when starting a new game (making sure the files are all ticked within the game setup window of course).

Just to confirm, I can see Djalo is at Besiktas, Conceição is permanently at Juventus, and Sporting CP have Rui Borges as their manager (which are all correct in the real world) as of this morning’s update release.

When Classic FM - Spain (League).fmf is selected, after the career loading screen, the Spanish league cannot be selected on the league selection screen!!! There is a red exclamation mark next to it. This problem is resolved when Classic FM - Spain (League).fmf is not selected, but I don't want the Spanish team data to be missing. Help please

You must have some other data loaded that is also modifying the structure/divisions of the Spanish pyramid.

Used alone, the Data Update Spain file works just fine.

Are you using any files that make further divisions in Spain playable? If you’re unsure, please share screenshots of your ‘editor data’ folder and your in-game database selection screen, which is where you can enable individual data files.

Hello guys!
 

I just paid the subscription but I can't download the enhanced data update.

Can some admin help?

Thank you for answer WelshViking, 

I'm sending you within this message all photos of screenshot of my editor data. 

Like i said i've never had these problems i mentionned you before, only since new sortitoutsi data updates of september.

I tried to follow your advise of delating all my files i had in editor data and dowload the latest sortitoutsi of september 6th + all leagues files i used to put but still the same problems i mentionned you appear again

It would be good to get a sense of all of the custom databases you are using - clearly you have quite a large number activated. I appreciate most of those may be custom playable nations (which shouldn't, theoretically, cause any issues), but you never know for sure what those files actually contain within them.

Also, what game mode are you playing in?

You have 282 files potentially loading when creating a new game/save based on your screenshots - so VERY highly likely many of the files are conflicting with each other.

The latest ‘Data Update’ from here has 54 main files, and some additional “optional files”.

You will need to only have the 54 main files from here loading / ticked to test (see my screenshot attached as an example).

This ‘Data Update’ from here, ideally, is intended to be used on its own, with no other/similar packs from elsewhere - otherwise you will encounter issues and conflicts.

My enhanced data update will not load at all. I have a hp spectre x360 convertible so should not be a device issue. When I select original mode and click start game the load data base bar moves quickly to the end then just does not load and stays stuck at the end. Had it loaded for up to 2 hours and still nothing. Is there anyway I can fix this?

Might be worth trying pinpoint whether it's a particular file causing this issue.

I know it has been highlighted by the moderators that the ‘Player History' file will cause the initial new game loading time to increase due to being over 3M changes within it - and I also know other files such as the ‘Changes’ file and ‘Non Dynamic Data' file also slightly increase loading times - however I haven't experienced it take 2 hrs.

I'm assuming a new game loads fine if no customised files are added/ticked from the editor files drop-down (default vanilla version of the database)? This way you can rule out it's not the game itself.

Also, assuming you are ONLY using this ‘Data Update' pack, have you tried unticking the odd file to try and pinpoint the culprit from the editor data drop-down? If a new game does load in vanilla, then re-checking all the files again from the drop-down, then unticking the “heavy duty” files to start with - ‘Changes’, ‘Non Dynamic Data’, 'Player History' - and see if a new game loads. If it does, go back and only tick one of the above, and try a new game again (I would however leave 'Player History' till last if you have this optional file added).

Hope that makes sense, and helps….it's a little tedious, but steps I've taking in the past (for different reasons) to help try and pinpoint where the issue may lie and obviously keep in mind if you are using your own or other customised data packs, this could also impact towards conflicting data, load times etc.

Appreciate your efforts to help, @WelshViking7. Just to let you know, myself and Luke were able to resolve it in another thread - which is where it was initially reported.

For anyone wondering, the issue was that they were attempting to use all of the ‘Dynamic Data’ files simultaneously. In fact, this is the probably the most common cause of the Data Update crashing during that initial setup phase.

Ah, no problem - thanks for the update, PC must have been in overdrive 😊

I use leagues files added by Timo or Falsobohemio and i've never had problem using them with the sortitoutsi data update files.

I always play with original mode game in a career game.

So you mean you must play only with these 54 files of sortitoutsi? That will reduce considerably the number of leagues and players. That's really strange cause i always try to play with a maximum of leagues and i've never had this problem. I'm using a game dell laptop.

It might be worth as a “test” to just initially only load the 54 data files from here (have all other files/packs unticked) as part of a new game, then have a looks through the changes and see if they add up to how it represents in real world.

I imagine at times it can be hard for the moderators to troubleshoot issues with their own files/packs when there are other files/packs included from other sources etc - so be best to try just loading this pack for now, ignoring anything else you have….just as a test, and you can have a look around at the changes, such as the one's you mentioned previously….and if there are still issues I'm sure it will be a lot easier to troubleshoot knowing you don't have any other files/packs conflicting during your test.

All I can confirm, is that if I download the latest update, and I load ONLY those files in a new game (no other custom files loaded/ticked) then the data shown in-game is as intended and up-to-date etc

To clarify: I'm not saying you cannot pair the Data Update with other custom database files. However, the types of files that you can pair it with, successfully, depends on the function of those other files.

The Data Update provides a main transfers/contracts update, newly-created players and updates to playable leagues (i.e. promotions/relegations, 2025/26 structures).

Using extra playable leagues from other content creators should, typically, be fine - if the files they are providing only create those playable league structures. Which is the case most of the time. I, myself, use a variety of extra playable nations from creators I trust.

However, if you are also using custom files that are trying to provide a transfer update (for example), that is where things can get messy. The scenario where a particular individual/player is assigned to the wrong club, for example, where the SortItOutSI Data Update has him transferred to a new club can only happen if there is some other file that is overriding that change.

Again, in the scenario you are in - my advice is to test with the SortItOutSI Data Update only. This way, you can see for yourself that those files result in everything being correct. If you then add back in other files and the problem then occurs, it gives you/us a good sense that the cause of the problem is some other file. If you only use the SortItOutSI Data Update and the problem is present, this is a good indication that the fault is caused by the SortItOutSI Data Update.

Am I missing something? In the changes editor file the created youth players DOB is two years earlier than their real life DOB. I play with a custom start date and this ends up with wonderkids being 2 years older. Is there a reason for that when their submissions have their correct DOB? (There is the 2+ years contract and age file I know that)

Is there a way I can mass edit created player DOBs in the editor or a spreadsheet and import them into the editor? Or will I have to individually change each created player DOB?

The newly-created players have that two-year offset applied to them directly (rather than via that +2 file). It's do with how the data is integrated. I can't really explain the technical ins-and-outs in further detail as I wouldn't know how. The primary Data Update is fundamentally based around the idea of offsetting everything, versus using custom, future start dates.

However - have you tried using the ‘No Date Data Update’ (https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/no-date-changes-data-update)? I am not sure if this removes the offset, but I would be surprised if it didn't - as I think that is the whole point of it.

I didn't even know this existed, thank you, this will save me hours. 

Which FMF file is linked to current and potential ability changes? Does anybody know? ( sorry if it’s stupidly obvious)

I have the enhanced Data pack. I’m just wondering as I checked a couple of players and expected them to be much better than they are, Alassane Diao from Como for example 

Classic FM - Non Dynamic Data.fmf

Thanks, Ive just started new game with, Non Dynamic Data ticked (as you say above) and also got Dynamic Data 1 and Dynamic Budget 1 ticked. this is the correct way? 

No, I'm afraid that is not correct. You should be using either the ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file or a combination of two ‘Dynamic’ files of your choice (any one of the ‘Data’ and ‘Pre Window Budget’ files).

The ‘Non Dynamic Data’ is providing CA/PA values based on the central Data Update's ability valuation. Each ‘Dynamic Data’ file provides a variance on these, to provide some randomisation.

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Hello, I have bought the paid version of data update. This is my editor data file inside of Documents > Sport Interactive > Football Manager 2024 looks like. Also from the game menu this how I see it, wanted to check if this is normal because names of the files are not same. 

This is normal. The Operating System filename (e.g. ‘Classic FM - Changes.fmf’) and the in-game filename (e.g. ‘_sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Changes.fmf’) are two different values. In many cases, they will be the same, but in the case of the paid Data Update they are different because the Operating System filename is re-processed.

The enhanced Data Update includes many of the same files, but also some extra files. This is what differentiates the two versions. Rest assured, if the downloaded files have ‘Classic FM’ at the start (as yours do), you have in fact received the enhanced Data Update.

great, thanks a lot 😊