djsgrant
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I have added the latest data update from the site and it works like a dream so thanks for that. 
 

I can’t seem to find a way to edit that data with the PGE. I am trying to move half a dozen Scottish teams into the lower leagues in England but with the updated squads. 

Footygamer
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Sorry I can't really advise without more information. What issue are you having? It's just File > Load Data and then locate your files.

djsgrant
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By Footygamer 22 October 2025 - 22:45 PM UTC 

Sorry I can't really advise without more information. What issue are you having? It's just File > Load Data and then locate your files.

 

When I load the database all I get is the original teams and not the updated teams. 

Footygamer
20 years ago
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You don't need to edit our database to move the teams. Just create a new file that does that.

 

The files are loaded alphanumerically so just make sure it's prefixed with ZZZ or something to make sure it loads last.

M.C
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By djsgrant 22 October 2025 - 16:49 PM UTC 

I have added the latest data update from the site and it works like a dream so thanks for that. 
 

I can’t seem to find a way to edit that data with the PGE. I am trying to move half a dozen Scottish teams into the lower leagues in England but with the updated squads. 

 

I flagged this post on my mental to-do list but haven't had a chance to get around to replying until now. In terms of the ‘best approach’ to this, the devil is in the detail. So I'll ask a few questions first just to absolutely clarify the scenario you want.

 

  1. Do you want the baseline data to be the updated 2025/26 league structures that are part of the SortItOutSI Data Update? That is, you want to take the 2025/26 English leagues and then adjust the make-up of the divisions so that there are some teams from Scotland in some of those divisions?
     
  2. Alongside this, do you intend to also play with the Scotland leagues active and, again, if so do you want to use the SortItOutSI Data Update file for Scotland, which reflects 2025/26?

The reason for these questions is that the structure of the SortItOutSI Data Update comprises of a number of files. Broadly speaking, there's one file that contains transfers/contractual changes (i.e. player movement). There are then a set of other files - one for each nation - that provide updated league structures, with up-to-date promotions/relegations and that kind of thing.

 

Assuming you want to start from the ‘full updated 2025/26’ position and you want to have both England and Scotland as playable/active leagues in your games, as a minimum you will need to make some adjustments to each of the England (League) and Scotland (League) files. Or, technically, account for the changes made within each of those files - but trying to account for those changes without having the file open to append your changes into would be quite tricky. An added layer of complication is the fact that each of these files have Advanced Rules, so adjustments to the contents of the files will need to be validated against those rules to be usable.

 

Therefore, my recommendation would be to:

 

  1. Open the Scotland (League) file and adjust it to remove the Scottish teams, from being in any Scottish divisions. Don't put them into English divisions - just take them out of all divisions. This will, of course, result in the wrong number of teams being in each division from within the context of that file. So you'll also take the opportunity to replace those teams, in that file, however you see fit. The goal of this step is to rearrange Scotland's divisions so they are as you want them. At the end, you'll want to use Save Editor Data As and give it a new name - just so you know which version yours is.

    At this point, you'll have something like “My Scotland League File.fmf” and the contents of this file will be a playable Scotland nation with the teams you want to move to England not competing in any Scottish divisions. If, for example, you activated Scotland - on its own - this would be the experience.
     
  2. Open the England (League) file and adjust it to inser the Scottish teams into the relevant English divisions. As above, there will be some re-shuffling of teams needed to accommodate those Scottish teams.

    Please note that when you're working in a custom database file you'll only see the changes (in the Pre-Game Editor) that are made by that file. So when loading the England (League) file, when you look up one of your Scottish teams destined for England, you will see they are in their original (vanilla database) league. This is expected.

    At the end, you'll (again) want to use Save Editor Data As and give this file a new name. What is very important is that this file has a name that is alphabetically second to the first file you created. For argument's sake, let's call it “zzMy England League File.fmf”. Following this approach, we need this second file to load after the new Scotland file you've created. This way, the game will first read "My Scotland League File.fmf", which includes changes to put some Scottish teams in no divisions. It will then read “zzMy England League File.fmf”, which will put those teams into the relevant English divisions.

The reason for doing it this specific way is that this enables the use of each nation independently from the use of the other, as well as together, in a save. If you only make the changes in one file, or the other, you won't be able to use both files because something won't line up.

 

As mentioned, you can make all of the changes in a completely separate file (i.e. not starting with either of the files in the Data Update as your base), but in my opinion that would be very challenging as you'd need to be accounting for the changes those individual files are making without actually being able to ‘see’ those changes in the PGE. Moving the six Scottish teams to England would be easy enough - but it's the re-shuffle of all the teams in all of the English and Scottish divisions to account for that which would be very unintuitive…as the whole time you'd be looking at data in the Pre-Game Editor that doesn't actually show you what the changes made by those other files are.

 

I appreciate what I'm suggesting may sound complex. The reason I'm confident on the approach is that I have previously assisted someone with advice on an equivalent topic and having thought through the options, I don't see any other way to do it whilst being able to make use of the updated 2025/26 structures.

djsgrant
1 year ago
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Wow, I am blown away by the depth of your reply. It will take me a wee while to work through it but I will. I will let you know how I get on. Thanks again. 

M.C
13 years ago
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By djsgrant 23 October 2025 - 16:37 PM UTC 

Wow, I am blown away by the depth of your reply. It will take me a wee while to work through it but I will. I will let you know how I get on. Thanks again. 

 

No problem at all - take your time and enjoy the process. If, when you come to start, or at some point in the process, you become unsure, please feel free to continue the conversation in here and pose any questions you might have. Alternatively, you can also DM me.

 

I have done a fair amount of the nation files that are part of the Data Update, so feel at this stage I know my way around these things and always happy to assist the community in their own endeavours.

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