Troubleshooting Football Manager Data Update Installation - How to install Football Manager Databases

That is, in fact, an incorrect assumption, I'm afraid. It was true once upon a time but not any more - in fact, other than a brief period shortly after the introduction of the ‘new players’ concept, they have been integrated into the main body of the update.

You'll note that the ‘New Players' file is actually tiny in size. It's just an ‘empty’ container file that has been kept in to make it easier for those getting the latest update, for the first time since some time ago, to overwrite their previously-installed version.

In reality, the newly-created players are integrated into the main sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Contracts.fmf file. This file contains the newly-created players as well as all of the transfers/changes to players in the vanilla/default database. They're integrated into a single file for technical reasons and because of how the overall update is generated. At this time, there is no separate/standalone file that provides only the new players. It is possible that in the future there will be a ‘modularity’ to what the downloaded Data Update can consist of (i.e. the ability to specify if you want new players, or not, for example), but not at this time (and there is no firm timeline, or even guarantee, for that ‘modular’ approach I mentioned).

Yeah, that's understood. No worries at all. Thanks for the update. It's appreciated.

Hi all, I've just downloaded the update and started a new game and i have a problem where a lot of more recent managerial changes (eg Thomas Frank and Ruben Amorin) and other new staff (even Sir Jim Ratcliffe) are listed as normal coaching staff and many (if not all) of the newer staff are on part time contracts. I don't think i've got any other .fmf files utilised 

same issue

glad its just not me. Managed a mini workaround by subbing the contract update from the basic download into the premium files and seems to have fixed it but possiby not got all the latest changes and some other info missing but not the end of the world

I was just beginning to test which file was causing the problems. How do I get the basic file now as mine just defaults to the premium one. 

i had to register for another account with a different email address, bit of a pain

Found a version I downloaded just after transfer window and subbed the file but didn't seem to make a difference. Going to load all the old files and see what comes up. Is a strange one and not many others seem to be complaining about it 

Same here too. Looked on the pre game editor and the premium contract file seemed to have them all unemployed so not sure if that was the issue. Did my workaround by using the basic files and subbing in some of the premium files (like attribute changes) and adding the license fixes. Some recent managerial updates haven't taken effect but they get sacked soon enough anyway so can live with it for the additional youth players and the same players, like Evan ferguson, not always becoming world beaters 

I still can't find the file that's causing the problems lol

I've just gone back to the full set of old files titled classic FM. I had them end sept so just going to use them. Not sure what's going on with the new ones. I downloaded the new basic file and it didn't seem to do anything.

Will there by an update to the file to fix the manager/coach issues we are having? Started an unemployed save and the amount of available jobs surprised me!

Player count has spiked to 172,000 players without adding any nations

Hello,

After installing the updates I have quite a few issues with Market Values + Salaries.
 

Players in the 2.Bundesliga for example have recieved super high salaries (some are on 200k p/w) and correspondingly have very high market values (50m+).

Anyone ever seen that problem before and perhaps knows a fix?

Hey, this is probably the most rookiest of rookie errors, but when I've added the data update into my FM26 folder as shown, there's no data file showing in the game also shown.  can anyone spot what is going wrong

I'm using the Gamepass version if that helps?

Thanks in advance

I said it was a rookie mistake - I had the data files still in the unzipped folder.  Duh, head banged on wall and resolved.

Maybe a silly question, but when a new update comes out, do all the updates work in my old save

same issue here…why mod here try to fix the issue?

I'm having this issue too, except mine has spiked to 290,000. 

I have isolated it to the ‘sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Player Attributes.fmf’ file. When I add this file in, the player count spikes.

Done some more digging. Interestingly, the two files ‘Player Attributes’ and ‘Player History’ don't appear when downloading previous versions of the FM24 updates - https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/releases# (not sure if that archive is only the free version. So far this only seems to appear in the ‘live’ premium file. So perhaps this is an issue in the premium version?

When I select databases, if I do not include the player attributes file, the player count is much more reasonable and in line with the selected leagues.

Just to acknowledge - I am aware of the reported issues with the FM24 Data Update at present. Have been really busy this week and not been able to troubleshoot.

I am in the process of cataloguing the errors and seeing what I can directly replicate and then I'll ensure we work to resolve the bugs. I'm using this message as an acknowledgement but also a point-in-time placeholder to refer myself back to, if needed.

As best I can tell, we appear to have issues with:

• significantly spiked player count (seemingly triggered by the use of the ‘Player Attributes’ file)
• widespread, over-inflated wages and market values of many players
• possibly still issues with non-playing staff roles not being correctly set

Please rest assured, the staff team will work to resolve the issues we can replicate/identify ASAP.

A double-post from me, but just to acknowledge:

I can easily replicate the spiked player count. With a full installation of the FM24 Data Update and no other custom files, I'm seeing a ‘base’ player count of 149,780 even when there are zero leagues selected. Naturally, the number goes up the more leagues that are selected.

I haven't dug into the ‘Player Attributes' file contents, yet (that is my next step), but I suspect (and this is speculation at this point) this high database player count will be caused by the same issue that is seeing over-inflated wages/market values.

Essentially, this large number of players (circa 150,000) are ‘always loading’ because they will have a reputation/stature that meets the threshold that ensures they ‘always load’. I would expect that same bugged data results in those same players also having over-inflated wages/market values.

At this time, I do not know the exact cause of this data being present - it could be something to do with the upstream process of the file creation, or some mathematical calculation that has gone awry, or it could even be that in FM26 the Reputation value range is wider and we haven't accounted for those differences since the FM26 Data Update started to be built. Whilst I'm a member of the staff team, I only have so much access to the underlying data so this is still speculative/theoretical at this stage.

Just to reiterate: this is a bug and we'll tackle it and ensure the experience returns to what we would expect ASAP.

Update on FM24 Data Update:

A change has now been applied to the ‘Player Attributes’ file and this new version is now included in the Data Update, available to download as normal via https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update.

As a quick resolution, the ‘Player Attributes’ file no longer adjusts player reputations. This has returned the approximate number of players loaded when setting up a new game to the expected numbers (e.g. a small, England-only database is around ~10,000 instead of 150,000+). It has also put wages and market values back into the expected ranges.

For anyone playing FM24 with our Data Update, I would strongly recommend downloading the latest version before starting your next new save game. This will ensure that:

• the size of the database is correct
• player reputations are appropriate
• player wages and market values are appropriate

There does continue to be a temporary pause on non-playing staff submissions being integrated into the FM24 Data Update. This is separate from the above bug (now tackled) and has been the situation for a short while and this step was taken in order to alleviate a separate bug. Staff team are actively working on tackling this remaining issue and everything will get straightened out soon. Community members should continue to submit changes via https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/contribute as normal.

Froholdt do fcporto está com CA E CP desatualizado , assim como tambem já é internacional pela dinamarca e a posição em campo não tem nada haver ,

obrigado

Hi, did u noticed that many of directors of football such as Berta, Viana in Premier league has director function, not playable director of football, or sport director?

This is data update bug, or bug in my saves?

Halloo, trying to use the FM24 data update, bought the premium version a month ago. Proceeded to give FM26 another go, helll no, refunded.

When I first bought the premium version, it worked great, everything seemed in order. Then I gave FM26 another go (bad decision) I didn't really use it.

Coming back to FM24 now, the new “live” update, to which I can see is my only option, is not working great at all. I am also having the managers as “coaches” issue, but can see you have already addressed this.

The bigger issue I am having is players not loading into the game at all? When they did last month when I first downloaded the premium version (which I have unfortunately deleted thinking FM26 would be good, lol)

Players such as Rio Ngumoha Etc are not loading, which definitely did last month as I remember being impressed by his attributes. It looks like U18's as a whole are not loading, especially in the premier league, there are simply no players.

Now I feel like I am probably being stupid and there is a larger file I am not locating and should be downloading or there are issues? 49mb seems low for the update to cover all the changes in the current present day database to FM24, so I do feel that its a me thing.

Am I being mental and there is another download I am missing? Don't want to commit to a long term save until I figure this out lol.

Appreciate all the work you do.

Just to confirm: you are not doing anything wrong and you are not going mad - I am able to replicate the experience you have had, with the latest/current version of the FM24 Data Update.

Apologies for the confusion/inconvenience - we are in the process of troubleshooting and resolving a range of challenges with the FM24 Data Update. It was, in fact, paused from late October through until now owing to some of those issues. The Site Admin and a group of us are actively working on tackling things and the current version has some issues, still. It's a priority to get them sorted.

In terms of the actual file size of the download/contents - the ~50Mb is the right size. This is, in fact, the total size that the Data Update should be. The issue is in the logical construction of the main file, which handles things like player and non-player transfers, as well as the addition of new youth players. In simple terms, we need to keep working to tackle the issues before it's ready and stable for use. I can't put an exact timeline on it, but we're working continuously to sort it out. Many/all of the complications stem from the fact that we're producing two updates (FM24 and FM26) from, effectively/as much as possible, a single data set and there are some intricacies that need to be worked out.

Thank you for getting back to me in due time, its very very appreciated.

Absolutely understood, I am not very active on the forums so I have probably missed that it has been paused etc, apologies if I have brought up historical issues that you and your team are already dealing with.

That's perfectly fine, I think I speak for everyone when I say we would rather a “functional complete” system for the data update rather than it being rushed (not like anyone would do that would they…… I'm never playing FM26 again looool)

Ah right that's cool, crazy that it can all fit in 50MB, but I am no expert on any of this stuff.

Again thank you, for all your work today and over the years, FM24 isn't going anywhere so no need to rush.

Wishing the best to you and your team.

i like to ask is FM24 data update without the date change is still updated or not?

@tjc apologies the FM24 is getting refreshed so that it works from the same submissions as FM26 and I accidentally published a test build (that isn't working yet) to the live FM24 update.

It should be fixed now.