base de datos

buenas, esto era en un principio solo para que la gente de sortitoutsi, pero supongo que sera visible para todos.

Me gustaria saber si la base de datos del FM24 esta actualizada con los presupuestos y patrocinios de todas las ligas y sus divisiones, ya que como se puede ver en las imagenes cada vez que creo una partida me aparecen asi y algunos jugadores no estan es los equipos que deberian de estar, tal y como se pueden ver en las imagenes de transfermarkt de uno de los equipos.

Queria hacer esto un poco mas privado pero si esta es la unica manera de ponerme en contacto con vosotros no me queda mas remedio que hacerlo asi, espero una pronta y clara explicacion.

Please can you post in English.

I will investigate

Okay, fine, I'll send it to you again from here in English. It must be very difficult or very expensive to use a translator like I'm doing right now to write this (I hope you understand the irony).

Hello, this was originally intended only for the Sortitoutsi community, but I suppose it will be visible to everyone. I'd like to know if the FM24 database is up-to-date with the budgets and sponsorships for all leagues and divisions, because as you can see in the images, every time I create a save, they appear like this, and some players aren't on the teams they should be, as you can see in the Transfermarkt images for one of the teams. I wanted to keep this a bit more private, but if this is the only way to contact you, I have no other choice. I hope for a prompt and clear explanation.

I'm not sending you the photos or screenshots, as I doubt it's necessary, unless you tell me they're not clear.

Okay, thanks for looking into my problem. I hope everything can be resolved and cleared up soon.

@Miguerp1007 - just FYI, I'm in the process of looking at the squad-related parts you've mentioned. I will need a few hours to find the proper time to understand exactly which faults you're drawing our attention to via your screenshots and then to cross-check the data to understand the cause, including comparing what I see in a new game when using the FM24 Data Update at my end.

As an aside, the request for you to post in English was not to enable us to start investigating (FootyGamer already translated your message and is already investigating) - it's just the forum rules request that everyone post in English.

I know @Footygamer is looking into the issue regarding club budgets - this data is something he has access to so I'll leave him to investigate that.

What I can observe, in terms of the issues you're reporting - from the screenshots I can make the following conclusions:

1. I see some duplicate players appearing in-game for you at Celta Vigo. Namely Mateo Sobral and Iago Barreiros. If I use these as examples and follow the data, I see that these are players that only exist in an ‘official’ capacity (i.e. in Sports Interactive's database) in FM26. Our FM24 Data Update also has these created, one instance of each. Therefore, my instincts tell me that you maybe are using other files alongside ours, including some that add wonderkids, which could be resulting in the duplication. I'm speculating, but that's what it appears that is happening from the screenshot.
    
2. On the example of Aldrine Kibet - I don't think he exists in our FM24 Data Update at all. Again, looking at our data and SI's official data: Aldrine Kibet was introduced in FM26. As best I can tell, no-one in our community has created him for the FM24 Data Update. This suggests to me his existence in your game is due to some other files and, therefore, his contract with Pobla Mafumet would come from those other files. I can't see any reason why he would exist at all, except for some other custom databases.

Are you able to confirm what set of custom databases/editor data files you're using? Alternatively, if I've not represented what you're reporting well, please do explain what I have missed. I have done my best to understand the fault report based on the screenshots but, as someone who doesn't speak Spanish, it's actually quite difficult to easily understand which part of the various screenshots you're drawing our attention to. The duplicate players and Aldrine Kibet were what I could understand.

As an overall position, please be advised that the SortItOutSI Data Update is a community-driven update. The website provides the tools and the community make the submissions. If any transfers haven't been updated, we invite all community members to use the submission system to make those changes, which can be found here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/contribute.

Similarly, if there are players missing entirely from the game, we also have the ability for these players to be submitted and added to the database. The best starting point is here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes. For example, if someone wanted to add Aldrine Kibet to our FM24 Data Update, they would need to add him as a created player by following the instructions/web form. The staff would then moderate that submission, as well as take care of ‘linking’ him to the official version in FM26, so that he is only created in the FM24 Data Update and then everyone gets to have him in their game.

These are the basic principles behind how the Data Update contains what it does. Hope that helps.

I fully understand that it takes time to verify what I'm saying, but I believe that what I've written is perfectly clear from the content of the images.

I understand about the language; I wasn't aware of that rule. I apologize if my message regarding it was too harsh; that wasn't my intention.

No, the game was created only with the 60 files that you get when you download the RAR file that contains them. I did it that way for that same reason, since it also seemed strange to me. If I also add a file that says "young promises," for example, it gives me 3 of each of the ones you mention.

I'm surprised you haven't created Kibet yet, since I seem to recall (my memory may be failing me, haha) that his presence was implemented around September, as he was a promising young player, as I've already said, only your files are in those photos.

My questions concern sponsorships (which I believe was clearly explained) and the lack of players, specifically Celta Vigo players who appear in the database but aren't on the team. I've seen this issue with various content creators who have shown the entire team and demonstrated that they are using your database. As for the duplicate entries, I honestly don't understand why they appear, but it's not a major concern for me.

For now - from my perspective and looking quickly at the data via the site (including my moderator's view), I can see no reason why the instances of the missing players would appear in the FM24 Data Update.

Again, the conclusions I can make for now are:

1. The players who are missing are in the FM26 database (officially) and not created for inclusion in the FM24 database. Example include Izan Server and Dani Noya. Therefore it makes sense to me that they don't appear, at this time, in an FM24 game. If it's an issue with data not appearing on the site that actually does exist, that will become clear when I inspect the actual Data Update data. If it is the case that these players haven't been created (yet), then the solution will be to create them. That would still leave the mystery as to how they are appearing for you at all in-game.
    
2. Having very quickly cross-checked a few of the players, I am seeing that those who are appearing twice have been created in the FM24 Data Update once. The same examples - Mateo Sobral and Iago Barreiros - are good ones. In your game, they show up twice - but they show up with different details (different ages, for example). This means there are two Person records in the database, in total. When I search in the Pre-Game Editor with the New People file loaded, I find one each of Mateo Sobral and Iago Barreiros.
   
   This fact, combined with the fact that they have different data in-game (e.g. different ages) makes me pretty confident that the second instance is coming from somewhere else.
    
3. The player you mentioned, who is at the wrong club (Aldrine Kibet) does not appear inthe New People file at all. This matches what I can see on the website, too. Again, I feel as though he must be coming from somewhere else. My instincts tell me this ‘somewhere else’ is the same file that is introducing Mateo Sobral and Iago Barreiros (i.e. I think these issues have the same root-cause, whatever that is).

Now, I have also just started a brand new game with a clean install of the latest FM24 Data Update and in-game I see the following:

1. The players who are missing (e.g. Dani Noya & Izan Server) are missing. This is logical - they don't exist in our FM24 Data Update.
    
2. The players who appear duplicated for you (e.g. Mateo Sobral & Iago Barreiros) appear exactly once for me. This is logical - and is what I'd expect.
    
3. Aldrine Kibet does not exist in the game. Again, this is logical - he doesn't exist in our FM24 Data Update.

I know you have said you're not using other custom database files - how certain of that are you? Could it be that you are subscribed to some mods on Steam? So far, the most logical conclusion for me is that both the duplicated players and the one at the incorrect club do not come from our files. If they were in our files, I'd expect to be able to see them just as you can. Just to be absolutely clear: I started a new game with all 60 files enabled (and nothing else) from the premium FM24 Data Update, which I downloaded about 20 minutes ago. I am going to check the free FM24 Data Update - which should be identical - just in case there's a discrepancy.

One other thing that may help with everyone's understanding: not every player you can ‘see’ on the website exists in FM24. Since the release of FM26, the website presents the FM26 database of players when you conduct a search. For example, I can find Dani Noya (https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/2000388782), but the entry I can see is the FM26 official database instance of him. Because there is no corresponding created_player version, there is no mechanism for him to appear in FM24.

I don't know what to tell you, I just created another one to check again and it's still showing the same thing. Do you want me to send you screenshots of how I have it set up and how I create the game and everything I do? Making a video would take me a lot of time, since a game with only 25,000 players to start takes me more than 30 minutes to create.

Definitely no need to make a video - but I think seeing the contents of the following folders would be useful:
 

\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2024\editor data
\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\913740

These are the two locations that would contain custom database files. The second one is only relevant if you purchased the game via Steam.

Okay, sorry for taking so long, it took me longer than I expected to take the screenshots. I'm sending you screenshots of how I have the selected base in the game (I suppose that's enough, since everything I have in the editor data folder also appears). And since I have Epic Games, I'm not sure if that's the folder you're referring to. If it isn't, please tell me the exact path so I can send it to you.

The file named “Max PA YouthPlayers v2” is not from our Data Update. I bet that is introducing the duplicates/some of the youth players that are missing from our update.

The first step is to not use that file. Everything else you have enabled looks like it is from our update.

Now, that won't get as far as making the players missing from our Data Update appear. But that has a logical cause and straightforward solution - which is for community members to create those missing players, as per my earlier advice.

Sorry, while I was waiting for your reply, I was testing creating games by mixing other new databases I had downloaded to see how they would work or what changes they would bring, and it got stuck. The funny thing is, I've been staring at the screen where you select the different files for 10 minutes, and when I deselect the one you mentioned, the same number of selected files appear. And I just recreated the game, and everything looks the same as in the first screenshots I sent.

The thing I would recommend is to do the following:

1. Make a folder somewhere and cut and paste all of your ‘editor data’ contents into that folder; thus ending up with an empty ‘editor data’ folder.
2. Download the latest FM24 Data Update and copy all of the files in.
3. Start a new game, selecting all of the files.

This gives a clean installation and should definitively show us what the content of the FM24 Data Update is providing. It is what I would do in your situation, as a starting point.

Sorry for the delay. Between getting distracted and my PC crashing while creating the game, it got really late, which is why the last screenshots are so far apart. I don't think I have anything else to add; the screenshots speak for themselves.

No need for apologies - it got late for me, too, so I couldn't reply.

Anyway, a new day - and we continue the troubleshooting. I have now started a couple more test games, matching your ‘editor data’ file configuration and game setup exactly. The same 69 enabled files, the same database size/player setup - everything.

Once again, I have only the players appearing who I would expect. I have one instance of Iago Barreiros, one of Mateo Sobral, no Aldrine Kibet. This matches the data that appears in the FM24 Data Update files and so it is correct. Given we're using the same database files and the same game setup, it is impossible for those same files to result in different content in the game.

I went back through everything you had previously shared and the only thing in your installation that appears different - which is therefore what I suspect for the discrepancy - are some of those files in your edt folder. You shared the following screenshot previously:
 

The three I have circled in red do not match what I have (I am using the Real Name Fix, same as you).

edneud11byfmsite and leyendas_juveniles are files I don't have at all. support_staff is a file that I do have, but mine is 2kb in size whereas yours is 1,978kb in size. I'm pretty sure this file contains non-playing staff, however, so I don't suspect it.

Can you please send across (attach them here) the edneud11byfmsite and leyendas_juveniles files, so I can take a look at their contents?

Another thing you could do, as a test, is approach this from the opposite direction: start a new game with none of the ‘editor data’ files enabled. This should give you the vanilla database. If you still see one Iago Barreiros, one Mateo Sobral and Aldrine Kibet, this also proves that these players are not coming from the FM24 Data Update.

At this stage, I am 100% confident that they are not coming from that Data Update.

As an aside, I will spend some time today trying to add some missing players to our Data Update files. But, with your current installation, when we do that you will still have duplicates. My recommendation is that we persevere to figure out where your duplicates are coming from and then you can make a decision about what files you use/don't use. Of course we have no control over the content in other people's files, so the only thing I can commit to is the work on the FM24 Data Update to plug some of the missing player gaps.

Yes, I agree with you, it's strange that the same files contain different things. The first two files you mentioned, located in the edt folder, are supposed to create legendary players from the past as if they were youth players. They only appear when you have the youth player rosters; they're not supposed to add anything else. The other file does the same thing as the other two, but with real young prospects who don't appear in databases like yours, for example. I'm sending you all three files so you can look at them and clear things up, as I think that's the best approach. I'm also sending you the first save file I created, to see how the game ran without any external components, but if I remember correctly, none of them were in that save. Thank you for all the hard work you've done, and all the work you'll do in the future.

I've had a look at all three of those .edt files and I don't see any of the players we've been talking about in them. At this point, I am not sure I can come up with an explanation.

I will try and open the save game you shared and see what it looks like for me.

I've just loaded your save and had a look at the Celta Vigo U-19s squad - which I think is the one you shared in a recent screenshot.

I see completely different data to you. Different player names, different nationalities, etc. The below screenshot is from loading the game without using those extra .edt files that you are using.

I also then tried to add the .edt files (just in case) to my installation and relaunched FM24 and reloaded your save game. I see the same squad as in my screenshot above. I'm all out of explanations. Honestly, I have no idea what is happening at your end. But I also don’t know how transferable save games are between different PCs; so not sure how useful that test was.

Well, I think you're mistaken. If you look at the photos I sent in the first comment, comparing the squad I had in that save file with the one I sent you, you'll clearly see how some players have moved between the different Celta youth teams, and how many others appear who weren't in that U19 squad. The first example I see is the goalkeepers. In the photo I sent you, there are three goalkeepers, and in the save file I sent you, only one of those goalkeepers is in that squad.

I think you need to look at both the save file I sent you and the photo from my first comment at the same time.

It's normal for the photos to be different between the save file with nothing added and the one with only your data. The save file with nothing is the base from the 24th edition itself, and yours has everything added up to the 26th. If they were the same squads, we'd be in serious trouble, since that would mean something is wrong on a large scale, right?

I downloaded those files from fmsite (if I remember correctly), and the people who uploaded them clearly stated in the descriptions how they worked that a new save file had to be created from scratch. I haven't tried (due to lack of time) progressing in any of the 10 save files I have created with different databases to see how those save files evolve or progress, and whether the files I sent you work or not.

Yes, save files can be transferred from different computers and work exactly as they are configured when you create them, regardless of the settings on the new computer where you're going to put them. I don't quite understand what you mean in this last part, since you yourself are seeing that already created save files can be transferred between different computers.

As I mentioned in my previous message, I'd be surprised if the three files I sent you created data for a specific team in the database, such as duplicating players and creating players who aren't in the database. Initially, these players only appeared in April with the influx of youth players.

The only idea I can think of, and I don't know if you've tried it, is to create a save file using your database and the three files I sent you. Maybe you'll get something out of that. I don't know, it's too late for me to have better ideas, haha.

Oh, I almost forgot, sorry for sending the previous messages all together. I'm sure it was a pain trying to interpret everything correctly. This time I realized it, and as you can see, I've corrected it in this last message.

Ignore my comments regarding the save file you sent. I missed the bit of information that said it was from a vanilla/base setup. That makes sense; and it does nothing to help solve what is happening for you.

I will try a new game using those EDT files but I agree that I can’t see those affecting things.

As I say, I’m a bit out of ideas. Fundamentally, it remains true that when I set up a game with our Data Update, I see exactly the data I’d expect. There are no widespread inaccuracies like duplicate players, nor players in the game who don‘t exist in our data. So the mystery remains. We also don’t have others reporting these strange issues, so my instincts still tell me there is something interfering in your setup - it’s the only logical explanation.

Okay, let me know what happens when you do what we discussed. Regarding the duplicate players, the only option left is to check the data in the game's internal editor or just ignore it.

Another question I have is about the sponsorships I mentioned in my first comment, since I haven't received any new or clear information about that.

My last question is about something you mentioned regarding implementing the players who appear in Celta's youth team in your database from the 24th. Has that been done yet (and if so, since what date) or is it still in the works?

If you're referring to the Pre-Game Editor: I checked the data there right at the start. I can definitively say that the duplicate players (a) appear zero times in the original database and (b) are added once by our Data Update. If you're referring to the In-Game Editor - that's something I'd be happy to check out, though I'm not sure what detail it'll give us in terms of understanding where those players are coming from. But I'm happy to try.

What would be useful is if you share with me a save game where you are seeing those duplicates - one of the save games you shared the earlier screenshots from would be perfect.

On the sponsorships: that is something the Site Admin, @Footygamer, will have to come back to you about as I don't have access to that data in a meaningful way to inspect it. It is processed/created from an internal feed, so I can't really advise on what is happening.

I haven't had a chance to create the missing players from Celta's youth team. However, any community member can help with this. There is a form that you fill out, with some instructions here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes. Once they are submitted, we can then approve them and then they become added to the Data Update pretty much immediately (premium) or by the following day (free).

I'm sending you a screenshot of each of the tests I've done before contacting you. They all have the names of the database(s) they're based on. You can tell me which one(s) I should send you.

Regarding the editor, I'm referring to the one you have to download along with the base game, which allows you to modify any database you want simply by loading it.

Okay, if you're not the one in charge of that, I can't ask for much more. I hope the person who is in charge gets back to me soon. Thanks anyway.

Okay, it's not done yet. Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't entirely clear on what you told me a few days ago about this.

I am no expert in Spanish, but I think the ‘SortItOutSI sola’ one means ‘only SortItOutSI’. If that save was one where you experienced the issues in the DB we are talking about, let’s try that one.

That being said, whichever the most recent game is that has the issue and that you believe doesn’t include any other database files would be best. Perhaps that is either ‘1.fm’ or ‘2.fm’ - I’m not sure.

I have the In-Game Editor so I can take a look and see if it gives any clues.

The ones marked 1 or 2 are the ones I use as a base to test different things when creating each game. Then, if I'm interested in them or they change something, I add the files they contain, like I did with the others you see. I don't know if those will mean anything to you, but I'll send them anyway.

The one that says it only has your files is exactly as described; it only contains your files.

It won't let me send you the numbered ones, it says they're too big, what should I do?

No need to send any other save files, I don't think. I've opened the save file you shared. I can see the same database you're seeing in-game. As well as Celta Vigo, I cross-checked a couple of other high-profile players (e.g. Max Dowman). I see he is duplicated in the game.

Looking at the date on which that save game was modified (1st April 2026), alongside looking at your download history, I can see that you would've used the FM24 Data Update from 1st April 2026 when starting that game.

I went and downloaded that exact download and just started a test game. I cannot replicate the issue, when I use that download. Here is the Celta Vigo U19s squad I see, having just loaded a new game using the exact game setup you previously advised (only Spain playable, with all players from Spain loaded, using only the FM24 Data Update files and the Real Name Fix):

It's essentially the same squad, but without some duplicates and some of the players you are seeing. The fact there are duplicates elsewhere (e.g. Max Dowman) means the only logical conclusion is that you're using extra files alongside. Perhaps you didn't realise you were - this game was started just over a week ago, after all. Your download history shows you downloaded various wonderkid databases so I think it is highly likely you were using them. Perhaps you were using them initially and there is some caching reason that means they haven't unloaded. As I say, it's the only logical explanation for you seeing duplicate players and also some players who have never existed in our FM24 Data Update.

Our Data Update is used by many thousands of people, downloaded regularly and we would have many, many complaints if we had duplicate players appearing throughout the database. Our community is pretty quick to tell us when things aren't right.

The only thing I can urge you to do is 100% ensure you are not using additional wonderkid databases alongside our update. These will create duplicates. My recommendation would be for you to completely empty your ‘editor data’ folder so there are no files in it, download the latest FM24 Data Update and copy only those files into it. Then, start a new game, with all of the files enabled. If you're only using our Data Update, the only possible result is that you see the database as I am seeing it when I start a new game.

When I get time - and it'll have to be tomorrow, now - I will download the same wonderkid database you have, previously, and start a game using that alongside the FM24 Data Update. If I see the same duplicates/new players you do, then that will be a very conclusive position (for me) on why you're seeing the database you are.

I can't deny what you're saying, since I have no proof to back it up other than my own word, based on my own memories.

I don't know what else I could add to try and resolve this as quickly as possible. I'll wait for your reply tomorrow, or whenever it is. If necessary, I'll send you some or all of the databases I have downloaded because you can't find them. Just let me know, and I'll send them without fail.

I just want to clear all this up as quickly as possible so I can start modifying what I want to do in my next game using the editor.

Have you tried to do exactly as I suggested in my previous reply? This is what I would be doing first, in your position. That is - a completely clean install of our FM24 Data Update into a completely empty ‘editor data’ folder.

You don't have to delete all of your downloaded, existing editor data. Just move all of the files into some other location, temporarily.

I just quickly downloaded the ‘The Ultimate New Wonderkids FM24 Database.fmf’ file, which was one that you downloaded from this site on 31st March 2026, via here: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/67825/fm24-the-ultimate-new-wonderkid-database.

I enabled it, alongside the SortItOutSI FM24 Data Update. The game setup was identical (only Spain playable, all players from Spain loaded) and here is the Celta Vigo U19 squad:

This is completely conclusive for me. You have that file enabled (perhaps unknowingly/due to a game bug) and that is the reason you're seeing these duplicates. With this file enabled, I can also find Aldrine Kibet and he is at Pobla Mamufet (as you previously observed).

 

I know around 7th April you tested again and shared screenshots showing the game setup and the result and I know from your screenshots it doesn't appear that ‘The Ultimate Wonderkids FM24 Database’ was active, but it still must have been. Perhaps a bug with the previously-selected set of files remaining active, somehow. Perhaps a quirk with contents in sub-folders being auto-enabled and not appearing in the in-game database list (I’m speculating, here). What is clear is that the database you’re seeing in-game is a combination of our Data Update and the Ultimate Wonderkids FM24 Database: I can replicate this consistently by using both files.

This is why I am suggesting to ensure you completely empty your ‘editor data’ folder and try again. In your position, I'd actually probably empty the ‘editor data’ folder, start up a brand new (vanilla/base database) game and then re-populate the folder with the latest downloaded Data Update from this site.

When installed on its own, our Data Update is providing exactly the data it should and, whilst it may not have every player (i.e. it is a continuous work in progress to add new players), what it does have is accurate and it does not have widespread duplicates.

I tried what you told me last time, which was to put everything in another folder and only put the most up-to-date version of your database, of which you have images. It seems unnecessary to do the same thing again since it will be the same result, because there can't be any folders in the editor data folder, and if there are any, their contents don't appear when you run the game or create a game.

Even so, I will wait for what you tell me tomorrow or whatever day it is and I will act accordingly as soon as I can get to it if necessary.