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plus he has Carroll to just fling cross after cross at, under Big Sam i can see it working well tbf
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It will work as well as its always done.

Playing shite football to a big target man has always been just about good enough to keep you in the league. But sooner or later you're left with the dilemma Stoke are in. Adapt or stagnate, that's when the real challenge comes.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 14:13 PM
It will work as well as its always done.

Playing shite football to a big target man has always been just about good enough to keep you in the league. But sooner or later you're left with the dilemma Stoke are in. Adapt or stagnate, that's when the real challenge comes.


Bolton did pretty well that 1 season in 2004
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 14:15 PM
Bolton did pretty well that 1 season in 2004

Exception that proves the rule.
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Planning on heading over to see a good few matches this season. Booked Villa - Newcastle last night, only €100 in total. Next trip is City - Spurs in November hopefully, if not then City - Swansea
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Need to find good games to fly over and watch. Ideally it will be a Wednesday CL game at home followed by a Sunday PL game at home. I miss SB
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 15:42 PM
Need to find good games to fly over and watch. Ideally it will be a Wednesday CL game at home followed by a Sunday PL game at home. I miss SB


Last season I got a savage opportunity cos City were playing Dortmund in the CL on the Wednesday night and then Sunderland in the PL on Saturday morning, was very handy
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 14:13 PM
It will work as well as its always done.

Playing shite football to a big target man has always been just about good enough to keep you in the league. But sooner or later you're left with the dilemma Stoke are in. Adapt or stagnate, that's when the real challenge comes.


Totally oversimplifying a method of playing football.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:05 PM
Totally oversimplifying a method of playing football.

Nah, it's not.

The style works because you effectively pick players who 'want' it more all over the pitch, you reduce the game to percentages and numbers, and you pick players who give you the best chance of winning the highest percentage of the little duels you create.

There's a natural limit to that, teams know what you're going to do and can set up to stop you. You'll always win games because some teams won't compete as well in those areas as you, but eventually you're going to need players with guile and craft and give them the freedom to use it. It naturally conflicts with the rigid discipline of a system like that.
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Its the ugliest way to play football, i hate teams that just play direct and hope their players win headers and flicks, if they don't win them, they go again until they do etc.

Thats the reason Carroll failed at Liverpool.
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I don't see how utilizing wingers is "ugly", it's a perfectly valid way of playing football and it works. Don't see how it's any less ugly than the likes of City and Swansea (of the Rodger's era) pissing about 20 yards outside the box
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:27 PM
I don't see how utilizing wingers is "ugly", it's a perfectly valid way of playing football and it works. Don't see how it's any less ugly than the likes of City and Swansea (of the Rodger's era) pissing about 20 yards outside the box


Swift, crisp passing (City in their title win, not Rodgers, never Rodgers) can be entertaining to watch. Seeing a 7 foot tall freak trying to win eight hundred headers is less entertaining.

I don't have anything in particular against it tbh. I hate Stoke for primarily different reasons than that.
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It is a pretty British way of looking at football though tbf. The proof is in how much mainland European teams have gone past teams from the UK after adopting a different style of play.
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By DB | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:33 PM
It is a pretty British way of looking at football though tbf. The proof is in how much mainland European teams have gone past teams from the UK after adopting a different style of play.


It used to be a British way (certainly the public) way of looking at it. Now fans have went the other way and are completely stuck up about how they think football should be played.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:35 PM
It used to be a British way (certainly the public) way of looking at it. Now fans have went the other way and are completely stuck up about how they think football should be played.


This.

Rodgers' Swansea had like 80% possession against Newcastle and lost 2-0 yet they were widely praised over their performance for playing football the 'right way'. The right way to play football is to win
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I'd always play attacking football \o/ Whether it would be effective or not is another matter
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 15:42 PM
Need to find good games to fly over and watch. Ideally it will be a Wednesday CL game at home followed by a Sunday PL game at home. I miss SB


Thats the benefit of living about 40 min train journey from London Victoria. Got Hull and Fulham and home booked so far. Wanted Villa but moved to a date im away for
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By Jay. | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:17 PM
Its the ugliest way to play football, i hate teams that just play direct and hope their players win headers and flicks, if they don't win them, they go again until they do etc.

Thats the reason Carroll failed at Liverpool.


Not really, we never hoofed to Carroll and hoped it worked - a lot of his goals for us were scored with his feet (contrary to popular belief)
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 16:38 PM
Rodgers' Swansea had like 80% possession against Newcastle and lost 2-0 yet they were widely praised over their performance for playing football the 'right way'. The right way to play football is to win


Newcastle were worthy winners as well. All Swansea could do is work the ball wide and back again. Newcastle actually created a couple of chances.

By Poe | Permalink | On 14 August 2013 - 17:11 PM
Not really, we never hoofed to Carroll and hoped it worked - a lot of his goals for us were scored with his feet (contrary to popular belief)


Newcastle would have been relegated if this was the case. Barton is so slow he would be so easy to stop and with Jonas on the other side, we wouldn't have ever got the ball to Carroll.

Direct football can be entertaining, the 4-4 with Arsenal or when we beat Manchester United 3-0 are probably two of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen and iirc we were extremely direct in both of those games.
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We played extremely direct in the entire regime of Sir Bobby too.
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BT Sport 1, 2 join ESPN in HD now included in the XL package for Virgin Media \o/

15 quid a month otherwise for lower packages (12 for non HD)
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I think we've played direct football during Redknapp era when we were throwing balls for Crouch, but people were entertained by our play style so why not?
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I think this year the Spurs will be get at least in second place... It's just a opinion.
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No we'll get third at best.
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Last season I got a savage opportunity cos City were playing Dortmund in the CL on the Wednesday night and then Sunderland in the PL on Saturday morning, was very handy


Last time I came over for a match was Copenhagen and City. Both good games! Was two or three years ago

Thats the benefit of living about 40 min train journey from London Victoria. Got Hull and Fulham and home booked so far. Wanted Villa but moved to a date im away for


Well I used to live in Ealing which is 12 stations away from the ground (Ealing Broadway > Earl's Court and then two stations to Fulham Broadway). But I moved countries since and I only came over twice or three times because flights are extremely expensive! Hopefully this year I will come over again, even by myself and watch some matches with my friends from England
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The US has come up with a new way of trying to get the people of New York interested in the Premiership by assigning a club to each borough in the hope that the people of that area will back them.
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Cardiff is too big btw.
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That Keep Calm shit doesn't even make any sense at all

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