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Carroll.
Jason
bmg033
All he does is either dribble and get tackled, or dribble and shoot into the crowd. Adam Johnson should go instead.
Are you actually being serious? I'm a Spurs fan and I wouldn't have Rose anywhere near the England team. Assou-Ekotto is totally rubbish, but i'd still much rather have him than Rose.
My squad for Brazil
Goalkeepers
- Hart, Foster & Butland
Defenders
- Baines, Shaw, Jagielka, Cahill, Jones, Caulker, Flanagan (he's really surprised me this season) & Any other right back. They're all shite so it wont matter which one.
Midfielders/Wingers
- Gerrard, Barry, Wilshere, Barkley, Carrick, A. Johnson, Sterling, Oxlade-Chamberlain & Lallana
Attackers
- Rooney, Sturridge & Lambert
Only 3 strikers because i'd have Rooney playing off Sturridge or Lambert. Lallana or Barkley could also do this role.
Poe
.verse
Jamieandhisego
Baines and Shaw are the future. No point taking Ashley Cole for him to be rinsed by Suarez and all the pundits to be like, 'who saw that coming?'
Carroll.
.verse
Just because they're the future doesn't make them the right fit for now. I mean, that's effectively going to the world cup with a defeatist attitude already. You go there to win, or at least do well- particularly for a nation like England. Otherwise you may as well overlook anyone that isn't under 30.
You're also suggesting Baines and Shaw have the quality and experience to deal with the sort of players they'll face, in the high level situations that will be had? Baines is a little more understandable, given he has 20 odd caps, but Shaw is still very much a raw player. Neither have really faced the sort of quality A.Cole has on any consistent basis. Naturally, Cole may not start. But surely he's still worth a place in the squad simply for the experience and leadership he'd provide down back, no?
Not sure if serious?
He has, however the form of Dave has been outstanding since he slotted in at left back and the sole reason he's held his place in the team. Even Mourinho has said this much.
Ninja
England's back 4 is pretty shit regardless, it being a inexperienced and pretty shit just asks for trouble.
bmg033
I'm getting pretty tired of England teams that just use the same old players all the time instead of looking at the younger players. It doesn't matter which team we send out there, we will be lucky to get out of the group stage whoever plays. Why not send some of the youngsters instead and give them some vital experience that will help them in the future tournaments? The 'golden generation' all failed miserably when it mattered most. I'd only keep Gerrard because he is still top class and playing regularly.
I find it sad that Roy still picks his teams based on reputation. Just being at one of the top clubs or Man UTD seems to get you in the squad. Smalling Cleverley, Townsend, Cole, Welbeck & G.Johnson wouldn't get anywhere near the squad for me. I'd have Caulker, Barry, A.Johnson, Gibbs, Huddlestone & Flanagan over that lot.
Telegram Sam
I'd take Cole for this tournament and look to use Shaw for Euro 2016 and beyond.
Poe
Ninja
You also seem to be confusing 'playing' with 'playing well' Carrick has played like toilet this season and, alongside Cleverley, would be the first United player I'd axe. Bizarrely missing off everyone's list of 'players not getting in on merit' whilst everyone's including two that are. Ironic, because a year ago when he was playing well people didn't want him in, just goes to show how slowly opinions change.
bmg033
Yes, someone did. What else is there though? Terry and Ferdinand don't play for England anymore, Dawson is rubbish & Smalling isn't much better. I would've included Lescott in the team, but the fact he can't even get in the City side ahead of that donkey Demichelis suggests maybe he's past it.
Ninja
Yet Cleverley is STILL getting picked.
bmg033
The petition is now up to 10663 supporters as I type this.
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VP.
Telegram Sam
I'd take Cahill, Jagielka, Jones and Smalling as our centre-halves. The last two can at least cover multiple positions.
K3V0
Slashman X
That starting lineup would be good to see play though
Carroll.
Ninja
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/81726/Show/Phil-Jones
Been better than Gerrard apparently. \o/
Shola
Nah, it's a lot of football fans either don't actually watch football or don't actually understand football and instead just go along with the general opinion.
Luke Shaw being a £20m+ is just the latest. Because he's young, comfortable on the ball and plays for a fashionable team, he is currently being totally overrated.
Leighton Baines is another one, it seems to be fairly unanimous that over the past couple of years, he is better than Cole and should be England's starting LB. Yet I can't remember anyone really caring when he was left out of the 2010 squad for Stephen Warnock.
And surely you can see how often Pardew is accused of playing 'hoofball' despite only Arsenal playing less long balls. With Southampton and Everton in 2nd and 4th most.
Ninja
People on here will talk about players they hardly watch as if they know them inside out, so people either fall into the trap of easy hyperbole or oppose the popular view and as its football it's always a bit difficult to tell whose right or wrong.
It would be boring if none of us did that though.
Carroll.
bmg033
Agreed. I personally don't rate Cleveley at all, but that petition is a bit too harsh on him.
SniperLFC
The petition is very harsh, but to be fair it should be clear enough without it to see that he's not good enough.
But then Hodgson is the guy that bought Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky to Liverpool so nothing surprises me with him anymore.
Number 1
Ninja
Nah, he thinks he's playing well.
Number 1
If he really thinks he's playing well, he needs a bigger kick up the arse than I thought.