Doping in sport

Separate Olympics for doped up athletes is the only solution

Separate Olympics for doped up athletes is the only solution

Drop running from the Olympics and bring back wrestling.

Some people will always try to cheat, especially in situations where money is involved. Contrary to what most people think it is actually a good sign that many are being caught, it means the testing procedures are working and that the governing body for that sport is taking action to combat doping. It's sports like football where the documented cases of doping are pretty much non-existent that you need to be worried about.

Except that event would have no credibility, encouraging people to keep cheating in the "real" Olympics.

I guess it would allow athletes a choice though, you'd have more stringent drugs testing and you could bring in lifetime bans (although why they aren't a thing I don't know).

6 of the 8 fastest men to run the 100m have tested positively, they're all doping and it's incredibly naive to think that anyone that is beating the dopers is doing so naturally.

ine men in history have run the 100m in less than 9.8 seconds.
The first, 25 years ago this summer, was Ben Johnson, running 9.79 to win the 1988 Olympic final in Seoul.
We know how that one turned out: for a quarter of a century he was sport’s most famous shamed doper, until Lance Armstrong gave him a run for his money.
It took more than a decade for the 9.8 barrier to be broken again. Here, in order, are the men to have done it (with the relevant notes beside their best times):
- 9.79 – Maurice Greene – Has never tested positive. He has admitted paying Mexican discus thrower Angel Guillermo Heredia $10,000 – a payment the Mexican claims was for performance-enhancing drugs, but the American maintains was innocent, for ‘stuff’ for his training group.
- 9.79 – Justin Gatlin – The 2004 Olympic champion was banned in 2001 for two years for testing positive for amphetamines. And then again in 2006 for four years for ‘testosterone or its precursor’. Back again, and running fast. Won bronze in London last summer.
- 9.78 – Tim Montgomery – Admitted to testosterone and human growth hormone use – his once-world record mark has been stripped from the history books.
- 9.78 – Nesta Carter – 27-year-old Jamaican who has claimed gold in the 4x100m relay at the past two Olympics. A training partner of Asafa Powell.
- 9.72 – Asafa Powell – Confirmed that he failed a doping test on Sunday, but denies knowingly cheating.
- 9.69 – Tyson Gay – Confirmed that he failed a doping test on Sunday: “I made a mistake. I don’t have a sabotage story, I don’t have lies… I basically put my trust in someone and I was let down.”
- 9.69 – Yohan Blake – Tested positive for 4-Methyl-2-hexanamine in the 2009 World Championships – the substance is not on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s banned list, but the test led to his withdrawal from the event by the Jaimaican Amateur Athletic Association and he was among four to be given a three-month ban by his federation.
- 9.58 – Usain Bolt
Usain Bolt is clean. We cannot stress that enough. He has never tested positive, he has never been accused of taking stimulants. He has an unblemished record. His performances have brought huge joy around the world, and taken the breath away.
And yet, what as fans we are being asked to believe is that Usain Bolt is more than a tenth of a second quicker than all of his rivals, the majority of whom are tainted in some way or another by doping.

Usain Bolt has an entirely different physical build compared to virtually every other top sprinter in history, it is entirely plausible that his achievements are "natural".

Anyway, the list Ninja posted is misleading as both Gatlin and Blake posted their personal bests years after their doping accusations.

What makes you think they stopped doping and haven't just been cleverer about it?

What makes you think they stopped doping and haven't just been cleverer about it?

Italian police say former 100m world-record holder Asafa Powell, Jamaican team-mate Sherone Simpson and their trainer Christopher Xuereb have been placed under investigation for allegedly violating Italy's doping laws.

The move comes a day after Italian police confiscated unknown substances in a raid on the hotel where the trio were staying in the north-eastern town of Lignano Sabbiadoro after the athletes tested positive for banned stimulants.