Beautiful Magic Square by Ovro


Bug Fix:
Version 2; Added advanced forward for increased amount of goals from various positions, also ball playing defender, for increased retaining possession.


http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533243d1395334043-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-beautifulmagicsquare.png
An unusual yet highly effective formation, perfect for possession. This formation really makes the ball do the work, and you'll often find your players still have 90% energy at half time and 75-80% at full time, this is due to the proximity between the players.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533244d1395334211-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-leaguetable.png
Here is the league table showing off how strong and effective this tactic is, I've done many test saves all with identical if not better results, it's just I re-installed windows recently and lost everything so had to re-install. 1 goal conceded is remarkable and it's mostly due to the fact my team is the best tackling team in the league, a I've been told in many press conferences.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533252d1395334503t-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-game1.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533257d1395334517t-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-match2.png
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533281d1395335769t-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-match3.png
Just a few games to show the stats, the Sunderland game is a fantastic example of games vs lower teams. The lower team has anything between 0 and 3 shots.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533282d1395335821t-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-passmap.png
Here is a pass graph, because people love seeing these so much.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/share-download-fm-14-tactics/533284d1395335883t-beautiful-2-3-2-2-1-magic-square-variant-tactic-possession-cccs-defence-eye-candy-averagepasses.png
This is pretty much what every game is like, with that amount of passes being played.

How to use:

Match training:
Leave match training to your assistant.

Opposition instructions:
None unless you're facing Messi.

Team talks:
Standard.

Types of players:
-GK; should be good with the ball at his feet.
-WB; High stamina, good crossing, concentration and tackling.
-CB; Should have decent acceleration, tackling, marking, heading and anticipation.
-HB; Passing, marking, tackling, concentration, stamina
-MCL; Passing, tackling, creativity
-MCR; Passing, creativity, dribbling, technique
-AMCL; Passing, creativity, finishing, crossing, technique
-AMCR; Passing, creativity, finishing, dribbling, technique
-ST; Finishing, pace, acceleration, crossing, dribbling, technique, passing


I will add more information later when I have time, for now ask questions if you are unsure about anything.
Comments
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
Gave this a go instead of my wide version against PSG for Benfica - scored in the 89th minute and thought I was going to win 1-0 but lost 2-1.

5 clear cut chances to their 1 and 70% possession.

Incredibly unlucky!
FM Base
12 years ago
3 years ago
188
Gave this a go instead of my wide version against PSG for Benfica - scored in the 89th minute and thought I was going to win 1-0 but lost 2-1.

5 clear cut chances to their 1 and 70% possession.

Incredibly unlucky!


Give the tactic time to get fluid. That should solve all defensive insecurities. The CCC's this tactic creates = scandalous.
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
Going to give it a go with Newcastle!
Franck
18 years ago
10 hours ago
4,255
Will have to give this a go in my next save, got too many players in my current one that wouldn't fit into that kind of formation.
KEZ_7
18 years ago
1 week ago
1,884
Anything to add here regarding the shouts? Pass to feet?
RomfordBoy2011
13 years ago
1 week ago
1
Premium
I love this tactic! Plays teams off the park. I just started a save with Man Utd and we just smashed arsenal 5-0 at the emirates with almost 60% posession. Cheers
xeraphine
13 years ago
6 months ago
107
I actually play something very similar, but in a 4-1-2-3-0 with lower/higher tempo (depending on the game), and an SS in the AMC band instead of an AF up top. It ends up playing like a 4-4-2 diamond or a 4-3-3 (depending on individual instructions), but the style is very similar to yours. Short passes, through-balls, possession domination, defensive solidarity, pressing (I use "stay on feet" to keep the ball in front)...

I took some of the individual instructions from your tactic, though, and that helped a lot! After 7 league matches with Liverpool: 5W-2D-0L, 10 GF, 1 GA. Top of the league.

Thanks for the tips!!
Eugene Lee
13 years ago
1 week ago
195
Premium
Hi, am trying this tactic with my Man Utd save and am currently still in pre-season...

These are the players I intended to play or start with for this tactic:

SK- De Gea
FBs- Rafael & Evra
CBs- Vidic & Evans
HB- Carrick
DLP- Gundogan
AP- Pogba
Eng- Mata
Treq- Rooney
AF- RVP

What do you think of the players in these positions?

Here's what I want to tweak:
1) Play Phil Jones in the HB role as I feel he is a better player than Carrick
2) Have Pogba "Shoot More Often" as he has a good long shot stat
3) Change RVP to a Com Fwrd because I feel he is more suited to that

How will this impact the tactic overall? I sold Kagawa btw and have Max Meyer as my backup for either the Eng or Treq role. Should I go and get myself a proper DM? I loaned out Fellani & also sold Cleverly which means my other midfielders are Sergi Samper & Giggs as covers.

I've played a few friendlies with this tactic and have found that although we tend to dominate the match in terms of possession, shots and clear cut chances, we just can't score. The most I've scored in a match is 3 so far.

Thanks
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
I think the shoot more often might impact the attacking play as it's very possession heavy. I think Phil Jones would be a better half back than Carrick too.

3 in a match is good though
Crane
15 years ago
1 month ago
2,434
Premium
1) Phil Jones has the "gets forward whenever possible" ppm iirc, not ideal for a half back.

2) Pogba has the "shoots from distance" ppm so doesn't need any more encouragement to shoot.

3) Not sure tbh.
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
Aye, that ppm would drastically reduce his effectiveness at half back.

If you can get him to stop doing that he'll be a good fit.
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
aye - just checked, he also has run with ball through centre which is again not ideal.
Eugene Lee
13 years ago
1 week ago
195
Premium
Just won the next friendly 4-0 against AC Milan...RVP scored twice as a Comp Fwrd....might go for Diame or Kondogbia...which one? or do I just train up Jones?
Crane
15 years ago
1 month ago
2,434
Premium
Jones has the right attributes for it. However I'd play him at Cb while you're getting rid of the PPMs (I'd try to get rid of "gets forward whenever possible" first).
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
I'd play him centre midfield while trying to get rid of those PPM's - CB with those PPM's is asking for disaster.

I wouldn't sign anyone, I'd just train Jones.

Kondogbia out of the two though.
Crane
15 years ago
1 month ago
2,434
Premium
The gets forward PPM doesn't have an effect when playing in CB. Not sure about the runs with the ball through the middle though.
Poe
18 years ago
1 week ago
3,675
Aye the runs with ball through centre one.

I signed Kacar with the intention of playing him CB and he kept dribbling and it was pissing me off.
Codemaster88
12 years ago
1 year ago
1
I've tried this tactic a few times with Arsenal and i keep getting pummeled and sacked.
What's your secret?
synkciu
13 years ago
3 years ago
1
Thanks a lot! Prettiest football any of my teams ever played.
Iove Adrian
10 years ago
7 years ago
1
what did you select for the ,,team instruction" section?? What kind of mentality and fluidity did you pick??
Yazzaskills
11 years ago
4 years ago
11
I prefer having wingers in my side if i wanted to push the two attacking midfields out wide to have a AML and a AMR what would you suggest?
Simon Ruby
10 years ago
8 years ago
1
Currently in a slump with derby, will give this a go and see what is going on
Ivan Volić
10 years ago
6 years ago
73
Hey Ovro, thank you very much for this amazing tactic. I'm currently on a very nice run with my team GNK Dinamo Zagreb as you can see! Matches in the red box are the ones I played with your tactic. Thanks again and I hope you will make some new great tactics soon. Cheers mate!

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