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#823213 Compatibility of Nation and League expansions with the Sortitoutsi FM 24 data update
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11 May 2025 22:28:26
By maconnolly 08 May 2025 - 07:36 AM UTC 

MasterIgor's files do not do anything to move clubs between divisions. His files create the structure, in many cases extended the playable structure to lower divisions in any given nation.

 

As an example, his Switzerland file makes the top four levels in Switzerland playable. However, it doesn't move teams between divisions.

 

The Sortitoutsi Data Update file for Switzerland moves teams between tiers to put clubs in the correct divisions (i.e. to reflect real-life promotions/relegations). In doing this, it should also respect the number of clubs in the divisions that are non-playable by default (i.e. the divisions that MasterIgor's file enables).

 

Therefore, the two are compatible. I can attest to the compatibility because I personally use both of these - and I use many other of MasterIgor's files, too.

 

Ok, thanks again for all your clear explanations

#822850 Compatibility of Nation and League expansions with the Sortitoutsi FM 24 data update
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08 May 2025 00:53:43
By maconnolly 06 May 2025 - 10:55 AM UTC 

I don't believe there is any such function, unfortunately. However, once you have an understanding of (a) what the different parts of the Sortitoutsi Data Update does and (b) what any given one of MasterIgor's country expansions does, it's pretty straightforward to know what will be compatible (or how to workaround it).

 

In the Sortitoutsi Data Update, there are numerous files. Changes made to the structure of any given country's pyramid (e.g. updated league rules/composition) are in a separate file named: Nation Name (League).fmf and those that amend the structure will show that country name/flag when you are at the screen on which you can choose your Editor Data Files. Please note: there are many other files in the Sortitoutsi Data Update with this naming convention but most of them only include promotions/relegations and so do not create a clash.

 

As far as I can tell, the following nations have their structure amended in some way in the Sortitoutsi Data Update: England, Japan, Turkey, Wales.

 

In simple terms, any other custom database (e.g. MasterIgor's files) should be able to be used alongside unless they are providing new structures for any of those four nations. If you wanted to use a custom database for one of those four nations, you would need to choose to either enable the file that's part of the Sortitoutsi Data Update or the other custom database file.

 

Hi, thanks a lot for your detailed explanation.

 

One question: when you say that changing the structure of a country's pyramid can lead to a conflict, do you mean that adding lower divisions from the 2023/24 season can do so as well? 
I give an example to perhaps be clearer: MasterIgor's Switzerland FM24 Database file adds and makes playable the Swiss third and fourth tier, with teams from the 2023/24 season. The Sortitoutsi Data Update changes the composition of the first two Swiss tiers (not adding new ones), with promotions and relegations from the third tier updated to 2024/25. In this case, can there be a conflict between MasterIgor's 2023 third tier and Sortitoutsi's 2024 second tier? (for the reason, basically, that some teams would be part of both tiers at the same time).

 

I hope, nonetheless, that I have managed to make myself understood

#822658 Compatibility of Nation and League expansions with the Sortitoutsi FM 24 data update
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06 May 2025 10:18:11
By Bielsa is a legend 04 May 2025 - 09:03 AM UTC 

in my experience some work, some dont, its a case of trial and error checking for clashes when you set a new save up in your editor data

 

OK, thanks for your reply.

 

 

Is there a function in the pre-game editor to automatically check for these clashes?

 

 

#822303 Compatibility of Nation and League expansions with the Sortitoutsi FM 24 data update
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04 May 2025 08:27:25

This may be a trivial question, but I would still need your help to definitively clarify this issue.

 

Is it possible to add new playable leagues and nations (such as those created by Master Igor) before or after installing the Sortitoutsi FM 24 Data Update?

Are they usually compatible or is it impossible to do so?

 

Thanks in advance for the help