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K3V0
16 years ago
1 year ago
5,966
De Bruyne, Bale and Neymar. Hell yeah!


You forgot Ronaldo's coming home.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
3 days ago
1,598
Read something about us apparently being after Alexandre Pato, sounds more like it
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Cuadrado has joined Juve on a season long loan.

Great signing he ended up being.
.verse
12 years ago
4 months ago
871
Stones has handed in a transfer request to push through a Chelsea move apparently. Also talk of pushing a deal through for Pogba.

If both are had, that's a damn fine transfer window.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Whereas we sign no-one and have Giroud up front as our only true striker with Arteta & Flamini as back-ups to a not even great Coquelin

Fantastic stuff
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
3,361
I thought signing Cech was the missing piece to the puzzle
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Would've been if it wasn't for Ramsey being undroppable & Mr Lamppost up top
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
De Telegraf reckon we're going to spend £73m on someone before the end of the window.

They're pretty reliable and seem to have some sort of direct line to LVG so could well be true, about €100m so makes sense as a figure.

No names mentioned, but if we did spend that money it would have to be someone insane.
K3V0
16 years ago
1 year ago
5,966
De Telegraf reckon we're going to spend £73m on someone before the end of the window.

They're pretty reliable and seem to have some sort of direct line to LVG so could well be true, about €100m so makes sense as a figure.

No names mentioned, but if we did spend that money it would have to be someone insane.


Robben?
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
Even we're not insane enough to spend £73m on a 31 year old.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
Even we're not insane enough to spend £73m on a 31 year old.
K3V0
16 years ago
1 year ago
5,966
I don't know about that lad.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
The De Bruyne fee is actually insane if these reports turn out to be true.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Would've been if it wasn't for Ramsey being undroppable & Mr Lamppost up top


Why do you hate Giroud. He's Arsenal's best player ffs.
VP.
13 years ago
1 month ago
25,271
Best looking.

EDIT: Actually no that'll be Ramsey.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
Best looking.

EDIT: Actually no that'll be Ramsey.


Careful or Telegram Sam will start posting nude pictures of Giroud again.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Why do you hate Giroud. He's Arsenal's best player ffs.


Against Newcastle he is

Coincidently we're playing you on the weekend so if he scores like he usually does it'll be an excuse for Wenger not to buy anyone even though he has 1 goal in his last 10 starts
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
The De Bruyne fee is actually insane if these reports turn out to be true.


£60M is fucking ridiculous.

I guess i can't really comment as I've not seen him play, but £60M for a player who couldn't get into Chelsea's first team. Really? I don't know what happened with him at Chelsea but that much money is a massive risk.

Granted he's had a brilliant season in the Bundesliga, but after failing once in English football, will he settle in and do well this time?
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Sterling - KDB - Silva
Agüero


Has the capability of putting 5 past anyone in the League
bmg033
10 years ago
5 months ago
2,268
So we're trying to sign Son Heung-Min from Leverkusen. Should mean Lamela is off, thank fuck.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Against Newcastle he is

Coincidently we're playing you on the weekend so if he scores like he usually does it'll be an excuse for Wenger not to buy anyone even though he has 1 goal in his last 10 starts


Pardew is very committed to not marking Giroud. He's absolutely passionate about the subject.

Steven Taylor should do a bit better against him.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
The De Bruyne fee is actually insane if these reports turn out to be true.


It is indeed insane.

Bring back the days when Zidane was the record transfer for almost 10 years. Now very good (not world class) players are going for more than Zizou himself.
.verse
12 years ago
4 months ago
871
£60M is fucking ridiculous.

I guess i can't really comment as I've not seen him play, but £60M for a player who couldn't get into Chelsea's first team. Really? I don't know what happened with him at Chelsea but that much money is a massive risk.

Granted he's had a brilliant season in the Bundesliga, but after failing once in English football, will he settle in and do well this time?

He wanted first team reassurance. He wanted to play week in, week out, something that Mourinho couldn't offer. Thus, KdB didn't wish to fight for a position and requested to leave.

£109m for Sterling and KdB.
ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION POUNDS.

Allow your mind to process that.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
He wanted first team reassurance. He wanted to play week in, week out, something that Mourinho couldn't offer. Thus, KdB didn't wish to fight for a position and requested to leave.

£109m for Sterling and KdB.
ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION POUNDS.

Allow your mind to process that.


It's a pretty bad fuck up on Chelsea's part however you wish to paint it.

Mourinho by this point had made his mind up on Mata. Most normal clubs would have just given De Bruyne the game time that he needed. Instead you signed Willian for £30m and let De Bruyne leave for a cut price fee.

Not quite as bad a fuck up as Fergie/Pogba but its entirely similar.
.verse
12 years ago
4 months ago
871
It's a pretty bad fuck up on Chelsea's part however you wish to paint it.

Mourinho by this point had made his mind up on Mata. Most normal clubs would have just given De Bruyne the game time that he needed. Instead you signed Willian for £30m and let De Bruyne leave for a cut price fee.

Not quite as bad a fuck up as Fergie/Pogba but its entirely similar.

Eh, not really. We let go of a player who 1) wasn't good enough at the time to displace those in front of him on a regular basis. 2) was not willing to tough it out and earn a position, opposed to just being given one as some form of entitlement. Which he was told when Mourinho came back, despite being reassured he would be apart of the first team (which he was), there were no guarantees. This didn't sit well with KdB and he had a sook before requesting to leave. The club made more than double the money we originally signed him for and was good business. No point keeping a player who wanted out, and by all reports was not putting in much effort with training and showed a poor attitude on top.

FWIW. - He started the first 2 games of the season vs Hull and Man Utd, came off the bench vs Fulham and then started the COC games vs Swindon and Arsenal. Came off the bench in three CL games vs Schalke, Basel and Steaua and then started against Sunderland in the next COC match. He hardly shone in any of those games either. Maybe if he had of, he'd have more ground to stand on for a regular spot, but he didn't and opted to take his toys elsewhere.

The KdB of 2013/14 was not worth nearly £60m, nor is the current one tbf. I'll be very interested to see what happens if he gets dropped and has to actually fight for a start, something he's not had to do at Wolfburg.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
You sold a player who is about to break the British record transfer fee (or at least come close to it) less than 2 years later for 15m. In the process you indirectly strengthened a direct rival. It's not a terrible fee, obviously, but players of KdB's potential have been going for a lot more than that for a very long time.

All this because Mourinho doesn't have the patience for anything other than a quick fix. Sometimes young players don't set the world alight straight away, and sometimes they're wildly inconsistent. It's a frustration that United fans know well and something we experienced with Ronaldo and are now experiencing again with Januzaj.

Everyone knew De Bruyne was talented, had you been inclined to you could easily have given him a proper run of first team games (by Mourinho's own admission you weren't going to win the title that year anyway, so there seems no better time).

It's clearly a balls up, whether it costs you more than just financially remains to be seen.
.verse
12 years ago
4 months ago
871
You sold a player who is about to break the British record transfer fee (or at least come close to it) less than 2 years later for 15m. In the process you indirectly strengthened a direct rival. It's not a terrible fee, obviously, but players of KdB's potential have been going for a lot more than that for a very long time.

All this because Mourinho doesn't have the patience for anything other than a quick fix. Sometimes young players don't set the world alight straight away, and sometimes they're wildly inconsistent. It's a frustration that United fans know well and something we experienced with Ronaldo and are now experiencing again with Januzaj.

Everyone knew De Bruyne was talented, had you been inclined to you could easily have given him a proper run of first team games (by Mourinho's own admission you weren't going to win the title that year anyway, so there seems no better time).

It's clearly a balls up, whether it costs you more than just financially remains to be seen.

Did nothing I just said compute with you? We sold a player WHO WANTED OUT because he WASN'T HAPPY about NOT BEING GUARANTEED A FIRST TEAM SPOT. Who also had a POOR ATTITUDE in training. What more do you expect? He was given a chance initially. We were aware he was talented (hence why we signed him to begin with) but he didn't wish to stay and fight for a first team place. Just like Lukaku didn't wish to stay and fight for a spot. He could have been an absolute flop at Wolfsburg and it would be a non-issue. Obviously, he's done well in Germany in a side where he was guaranteed a regular position and had little competition for a place. That's football.

What next, you'll start blaming a side like Burnley for only selling a clearly talented John Stones for £3m to Everton when Everton could now be selling him for excess of £30m? Or any other transfer where a player is sold to another club for a small fee, before that club eventually sells said player on again for considerably more to someone else.

If KdB had more fight in him and a better attitude (see Zouma) then he'd quite possibly would have been a regular fixture for us now. Instead, he took the easy route out. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mourinho being impatient or not giving him a shot. In the end we doubled our money at the time when his career could have gone either way.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
5,341
I love how hilariously over the top you get when people criticise Chelsea.

So we didn't fuck up with Pogba then?

Because you're describing exactly the same situation. He gave up and 'took the easy route out' because he WASN'T HAPPY at not being given a chance and had a POOR ATTITUDE in training.

If he'd had a 'better attitude' he'd have been a 'regular fixture for us now'.

But I guess we got that right too, obviously, because his career really 'could have gone either way' and it was just bad luck that he's one of the best midfielders in Europe now.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
3 days ago
1,598
Did nothing I just said compute with you? We sold a player WHO WANTED OUT because he WASN'T HAPPY about NOT BEING GUARANTEED A FIRST TEAM SPOT. Who also had a POOR ATTITUDE in training. What more do you expect? He was given a chance initially. We were aware he was talented (hence why we signed him to begin with) but he didn't wish to stay and fight for a first team place. Just like Lukaku didn't wish to stay and fight for a spot. He could have been an absolute flop at Wolfsburg and it would be a non-issue. Obviously, he's done well in Germany in a side where he was guaranteed a regular position and had little competition for a place. That's football.

What next, you'll start blaming a side like Burnley for only selling a clearly talented John Stones for £3m to Everton when Everton could now be selling him for excess of £30m? Or any other transfer where a player is sold to another club for a small fee, before that club eventually sells said player on again for considerably more to someone else.

If KdB had more fight in him and a better attitude (see Zouma) then he'd quite possibly would have been a regular fixture for us now. Instead, he took the easy route out. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mourinho being impatient or not giving him a shot. In the end we doubled our money at the time when his career could have gone either way.


It's Barnsley....oh and completely different too.

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