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Ninja
16 years ago
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23 Sep 2013 20:38:59
By Telegram Sam | On 23 September 2013 - 20:30 PM
Fine, but saying you could have put two or three past Chelsea at a whim seems somewhat naive.


I was being slightly facetious but the basic point that we could have won that game if we'd gambled and actually gone for it is fairly uncontroversial.
The Platypus
15 years ago
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23 Sep 2013 22:20:57
Maybe you would've won it. Maybe you would've left a bit too much open room and be hit on the counter. (Running fast seems about the only thing Schürrle can actually do).

Pointless discussion really.
Telegram Sam
18 years ago
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30 Sep 2013 14:23:36
What do United fans think about this?

David Moyes rejected Sir Alex Ferguson's advice to retain his Manchester United backroom team, according to Eric Steele.

Former United goalkeeping coach Steele was axed by Moyes in the close season, along with assistant manager Mike Phelan and first-team coach Rene Meulensteen.

Moyes chose to bring Chris Woods, Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden with him from Everton, whilst also appointing former United and Toffees midfielder Phil Neville in his first full-time coaching role.

United's 2-1 home defeat by West Brom on Saturday means the club has now made its worst start to a league season for 24 years.

With the pressure already on Moyes right from the start of his Old Trafford reign, Steele has now revealed how the summers changes were handled.

"He spoke to me, Mick and Rene," Steele is quoted as telling fanzine United We Stand. "I told him I thought it was a brave decision.

"He listened to the manager's advice, but he wanted to be his own man."

Steele arrived at United in 2008, having previously worked at Manchester City, and is credited with turning David De Gea into one of the league's best goalkeepers after a shaky start.

The 59-year-old says he respects Moyes' decision but is not convinced it was right for the club.

"I didn't want to leave. Why would I?" he added. "I knew that David was coming in and wondered who he'd bring.

"You had the United perspective - the manager saying, 'Keep what we've got, keep the continuity, work with them and they'll guide you through. You're taking on a massive machine here. You've gone from Marks and Spencer's to Harrods.'

"Then there's David's viewpoint, which I understand. I know him professionally. I know his work ethic, his hands-on approach.

"I don't blame him for doing what he did. I've been in the game long enough to know how it is.

"But it's ironic, isn't it? You've just been part of a team that has had a great season and won the league. David De Gea's had his best season. Does it make sense that you're not retained to continue the good work? Sadly, that's out of my hands.
tmatthew
20 years ago
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30 Sep 2013 14:25:27
No problem with Phelan going really, Moyes says he tried to get Rene to stay and I really don't think Steele leaving is the reason we've performed poorly.
Franck
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30 Sep 2013 14:33:46
Some kind of clear-out of the backroom staff is inevitable with any managerial change.
Ninja
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30 Sep 2013 19:05:06
I think it's been a problem in many ways, Moyes not knowing the team very well could have been dealt with by more continuity but Moyes is his own man and its important that he's doing thins because they're right than because its what Ferguson told him to do or what Ferguson would have done.
Tommo.
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01 Oct 2013 20:30:42
Hahaha theres actually rumours that Zaha slept with Moyes daughter which led to him being dropped. I doubt its true but if it is fair play to him

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ig5XYBvALs8/UYxZtY_Sn4I/AAAAAAAAGoI/7ZAJbs0W4Kk/s1600/712be62b5529d9e6dc47b3723737e939.jpg
Telegram Sam
18 years ago
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01 Oct 2013 21:12:49
No way.
Wes Brown
20 years ago
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01 Oct 2013 23:52:39
fucking Twitter.
tmatthew
20 years ago
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771
03 Oct 2013 20:55:35
Anyone seen the SAF, Charlie Rose interview?

Really good watch.
Ninja
16 years ago
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03 Oct 2013 21:35:42
Nick Powell's second goal for Wigan was a bit good tonight.



Playing as a striker for them though, which isn't ideal. Games are games I suppose.
SpinSwimScream
16 years ago
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03 Oct 2013 22:13:46
aye he's still getting game time which is the main thing, quality goal too
Telegram Sam
18 years ago
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04 Oct 2013 08:51:54
By tmatthew | On 03 October 2013 - 21:55 PM
Anyone seen the SAF, Charlie Rose interview?

Really good watch.

Got a link?
The Platypus
15 years ago
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04 Oct 2013 09:06:52
By Telegram Sam | On 04 October 2013 - 09:51 AM
Got a link?


http://charlierose.com/watch/60274655

Very good interview, although sometimes I think it's pretty clear that Rose has no fucking clue what Ferguson is saying.
tmatthew
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04 Oct 2013 10:14:27
By Ninja | On 03 October 2013 - 22:35 PM
Nick Powell's second goal for Wigan was a bit good tonight.



Playing as a striker for them though, which isn't ideal. Games are games I suppose.


Both Wigan's strikers are injured at the moment apparently.
Telegram Sam
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04 Oct 2013 10:21:43
By The Platypus | On 04 October 2013 - 10:06 AM
http://charlierose.com/watch/60274655

Very good interview, although sometimes I think it's pretty clear that Rose has no fucking clue what Ferguson is saying.

Thanks.
Wes Brown
20 years ago
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07 Oct 2013 18:17:44
Apparently Marc Wilmots (Belgium national team manager) has said Januzaj is staying at United. They were saying it on SSN before but I've not found any quotes thus far.
Franck
20 years ago
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07 Oct 2013 22:05:18
I'm not sure why Wilmots would be an "authority" on Januzaj given his refusal to represent Belgium.
Slashman X
20 years ago
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08 Oct 2013 09:40:20
Aye, isn't he vying to represent Albania?
Franck
20 years ago
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08 Oct 2013 09:45:06
He'd be playing for Kosovo if they were recognised by FIFA.
Wes Brown
20 years ago
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08 Oct 2013 10:18:45
I'm sure they've had a chat about it though, his dad also said that he should wait until he's playing first team football before deciding on a national side.
Jamieandhisego
20 years ago
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08 Oct 2013 11:16:02
If and when Kosovo is acknowledged by FIFA, having a [potentially] high-profile player such as Adnan Januzaj in their starting XI would be pretty special for them as a nation.
Sam
20 years ago
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10 Oct 2013 20:49:55
It's funny that this foreign debate has started despite Januzaj will never play for England, nor has any interest in doing so. He's concentrating on United for now, and will go with his father's wishes.

The Rooney comments today I found pretty annoying, he barely played in midfield anyway, and tweeted how much he was enjoying it at the time.

Sure he can be pissed off about it but he was unfit and playing shit anyway and that's why he was dropped.
Obtuse
17 years ago
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10 Oct 2013 22:00:37
I think Gerrard nailed it when I read what he said about it. He spoke up for Wilshere but said the right thing after that.
Flash.
20 years ago
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10 Oct 2013 22:53:43
All Wilshere has basically said is the same as the home nations FA's have. If you have 5 years of education under the age of 18 then you can play for the country (Where it's reasonable to class them as English/Whatever as they've grown up here at a young age), if not you can't.

Non one was calling them racist when they decided on that.
Obtuse
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11 Oct 2013 08:24:03
By Flash. | On 10 October 2013 - 23:53 PM
All Wilshere has basically said is the same as the home nations FA's have. If you have 5 years of education under the age of 18 then you can play for the country (Where it's reasonable to class them as English/Whatever as they've grown up here at a young age), if not you can't.

Non one was calling them racist when they decided on that.


I don't think anyone is calling him racist this time, if they are then they are an idiot.

He didn't say that though. He said they shouldn't play for a country after 5 years. The way he worded his argument didn't help him though by saying the England team is for English people when a passport makes you British and eligible for England.
Slashman X
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16 Oct 2013 10:09:06
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/sxAU8Fn8akX9imuHAoEG4BEVs4vjEdzsoZATPmVC.gif

Super Hernandez \o/
Sam
20 years ago
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16 Oct 2013 10:29:58
Oh dear.
Telegram Sam
18 years ago
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16 Oct 2013 11:31:46
Did it go in?
Slashman X
20 years ago
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16 Oct 2013 12:28:56
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/F5xFljDw18P4ex8ZmeGHLcsPAMLmKnqJdDlvjDc4.gif


Yes it did, but was given offside cos the other fella obstructed the keeper

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