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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 25 November 2012 - 21:50 PM
Israel has Iron Dome. They have zero reason to send in troops or fire in rockets knowing it will kill innocent people.


Ah, this brings up just one simple question. Since everybody, including Hamas knows that Israel poses the Iron Dome, why on earth fire rockets at Israel knowing that it'll most likely end up being intercepted by the Iron Dome? Hamas just wants to provoke Israel & Israel is just waiting to be provoked. & thus, you have your bloodshed.
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 25 November 2012 - 21:50 PM
Israel has Iron Dome. They have zero reason to send in troops or fire in rockets knowing it will kill innocent people.


Ah, this brings up just one simple question. Since everybody, including Hamas knows that Israel poses the Iron Dome, why on earth fire rockets at Israel knowing that it'll most likely end up being intercepted by the Iron Dome? Hamas just wants to provoke Israel & Israel is just waiting to be provoked. & thus, you have your bloodshed.
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You know what is worse than the war between Israel and the Hamas? The war in Syria. A war fought one sided between their president Assad and the citizens. They can't defend themselves because their own army is attacking them! Weird that no one is even talking about that.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 15:14 PM
You know what is worse than the war between Israel and the Hamas? The war in Syria. A war fought one sided between their president Assad and the citizens. They can't defend themselves because their own army is attacking them! Weird that no one is even talking about that.

KM's going to have something to say about this.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 15:19 PM
KM's going to have something to say about this.


"This Israel situation is approx. 1.5 Holocausts, whereas the situation in Syria is merely 0.6 Holocausts"
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 15:20 PM
"This Israel situation is approx. 1.5 Holocausts, whereas the situation in Syria is merely 0.6 Holocausts"

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In truth, not to be anything offensive there's just something about the Muslim world which intrigues. The Muslim's in the Middle East have been seeking peace for years. They preach the word of peace and continues to tell the world that Muslim's is the best religion and what not. They say their way of life is much better. Yet they continue to fight among themselves. Syria, Egypt, Libya & Bahrain are perfect examples. Is that the way they seek peace and a better life? They're killing each other for heaven's sake!! Look at the Muslim's from the Middle East living in the West or in Asia, they're the once really at peace with their life. They choose to leave the Middle East and venture West to escape the problem's in their own country and are now enjoying the benefits living in the West. Sure, there's some racist comments or issues hurled at them every once in a while, but's that becoming fewer and fewer these days. I'm not saying that Muslim's or Islam is bad but I just want to point out the fact that the Muslim's in the Middle East should stop their infighting and take a good hard look at themselves. Start becoming the beacon of peace and harmony they were born to be. We'll see less fighting in the world especially in the Middle East and then maybe we might just get a solution to the Israel-Hamas conflict. Apologies in advance if I sound to racist or offensive or have offended anyone with this post.
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By Eugene Lee | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 15:49 PM
In truth, not to be anything offensive there's just something about the Muslim world which intrigues. The Muslim's in the Middle East have been seeking peace for years. They preach the word of peace and continues to tell the world that Muslim's is the best religion and what not. They say their way of life is much better. Yet they continue to fight among themselves. Syria, Egypt, Libya & Bahrain are perfect examples. Is that the way they seek peace and a better life? They're killing each other for heaven's sake!! Look at the Muslim's from the Middle East living in the West or in Asia, they're the once really at peace with their life. They choose to leave the Middle East and venture West to escape the problem's in their own country and are now enjoying the benefits living in the West. Sure, there's some racist comments or issues hurled at them every once in a while, but's that becoming fewer and fewer these days. I'm not saying that Muslim's or Islam is bad but I just want to point out the fact that the Muslim's in the Middle East should stop their infighting and take a good hard look at themselves. Start becoming the beacon of peace and harmony they were born to be. We'll see less fighting in the world especially in the Middle East and then maybe we might just get a solution to the Israel-Hamas conflict. Apologies in advance if I sound to racist or offensive or have offended anyone with this post.

I don't think you really understand the Arab Spring when you say stuff like that.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 16:04 PM
I don't think you really understand the Arab Spring when you say stuff like that.


You are right on that point. Maybe I lack a deeper understanding on that issue. Will go read it up though. But as per what I know, that's supposedly where the Muslim people launch a demonstration and protest. What we're seeing in the Middle East now like in Syria where Assad is willing to sacrifice the lives of his own people in order to stay in power. What I understand from this is that it's the rulers or leaders that are refusing to relinquish their power. Look at Japan, the public have been protesting since the last couple of years against what they perceive as a weak leadership and government. There's no bloodshed because the leader realized that he's no longer in favor and thus opts to resign and hand power to a new leader. My point is, there has not been enough effort from the U.N. in dealing with the Arab Springs and Israel-Hamas issue. In my opinion, a serious and concrete effort should be in place to solve this issue. I know as Kofi Annan had said that it was quite impossible to solve the issues in Syria but I believe where there's a will there's a way. Look at the oil rich nations like UAE and Qatar, they're one of the richest and peaceful Middle East countries. Yet all they care about is the development of their own countries and buying football clubs. They should attempt to assert themselves as the leading lights of the Arab League and actually try to do something.
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Robert Mugabe and Laurent Gbagbo are Christians. The fact that people like Assad are fighting and killing their own people is to do with power and retaining it. It has nothing to do with religion.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 15:14 PM
You know what is worse than the war between Israel and the Hamas? The war in Syria. A war fought one sided between their president Assad and the citizens. They can't defend themselves because their own army is attacking them! Weird that no one is even talking about that.



I'm pretty sure there was a massive thread on the events on Syria on the old board, newer news always gets talking about. That's why it's call news, because you know, its new.
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By Deano | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 18:41 PM
I'm pretty sure there was a massive thread on the events on Syria on the old board, newer news always gets talking about. That's why it's call news, because you know, its new.

Did we? Wasn't it just Libya?
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By Deano | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 18:41 PM
I'm pretty sure there was a massive thread on the events on Syria on the old board, newer news always gets talking about. That's why it's call news, because you know, its new.


But it is still happening. More were killed today, making it, well you know, news.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 19:20 PM
But it is still happening. More were killed today, making it, well you know, news.


The Western funded rebels are just as bad as the people they are fighting against. There has been a few cases of media using imagery from rebel violence and trying to say it is from the Syrian army.
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 19:39 PM
The Western funded rebels are just as bad as the people they are fighting against. There has been a few cases of media using imagery from rebel violence and trying to say it is from the Syrian army.


CNN showed footage of the Iron Dome and said we are using that to shoot rockets at Gaza.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 19:40 PM
CNN showed footage of the Iron Dome and said we are using that to shoot rockets at Gaza.


It is possible but I can't comment on it as I haven't seen anything beside an admission that it is possible
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:10 PM
That twitter thing is ridiculous. Not sure if that is a real IDF account and I doubt it, but if it is, I stand corrected! It is true though, they shouldn't be showing their faces around. We killed one of the Hamas leaders a couple of days ago, blew up his car. Is that bad? He is threatening our country on daily bases.


Just for verification

He is in charge of the forces' Twitter account, @IDFSpokesperson, which was regularly updated during Israel's attack against Hamas in the Gaza Strip last week.


Turns out he is 'racist' also. Nice of him to criticise people for making sure information is out there for people to see but Israeli higher ups have been doing that for years.
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By Bald Ninja | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 17:23 PM
Robert Mugabe and Laurent Gbagbo are Christians. The fact that people like Assad are fighting and killing their own people is to do with power and retaining it. It has nothing to do with religion.


That's exactly why I say the longer people like Assad are still in power, more and more innocent people will die.
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By Bald Ninja | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 17:23 PM
Robert Mugabe and Laurent Gbagbo are Christians. The fact that people like Assad are fighting and killing their own people is to do with power and retaining it. It has nothing to do with religion.


That's exactly why I say the longer people like Assad are still in power, more and more innocent people will die.
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Britain has just recalled its ambassador in Israel and I hear France is mulling the same move. Signs of their protest against Israel attacks on Palestine. I just don't get it though, why does Hamas gets away with his bombings when the Israel face so much slack over their actions? Yes, people say that Hamas rockets only managed to kill 1 or 2 Israelis while Israel rockets kills thousands of Palestinians. So? People still die right? The Times wrote a report saying that Hamas's rockets are getting stronger and better and could one day render the Iron Dome useless. "9 out of 10 fired into Israel get take out by the Iron Dome but that 10th hits an Israeli somewhere. Hamas's rockets are improving and thus we are seeing Israel improvising a second Iron Dome". IMO as long as Iran and Lebanon still continue to back Hamas, more rockets will be fired and one day Israel will finally be bombed just like Gaza. And the longer US and Obama continues to give the green light to Israel to fire back because they are being fired, more Israel rockets will be fired.

There needs to be a stop on both sides.Acknowledging Palestine as an official country is only a small step for U.N. More needs to be done and fast.
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By Eugene Lee | Permalink | On 03 December 2012 - 15:47 PM
Britain has just recalled its ambassador in Israel and I hear France is mulling the same move. Signs of their protest against Israel attacks on Palestine. I just don't get it though, why does Hamas gets away with his bombings when the Israel face so much slack over their actions? Yes, people say that Hamas rockets only managed to kill 1 or 2 Israelis while Israel rockets kills thousands of Palestinians. So? People still die right? The Times wrote a report saying that Hamas's rockets are getting stronger and better and could one day render the Iron Dome useless. "9 out of 10 fired into Israel get take out by the Iron Dome but that 10th hits an Israeli somewhere. Hamas's rockets are improving and thus we are seeing Israel improvising a second Iron Dome". IMO as long as Iran and Lebanon still continue to back Hamas, more rockets will be fired and one day Israel will finally be bombed just like Gaza. And the longer US and Obama continues to give the green light to Israel to fire back because they are being fired, more Israel rockets will be fired.

There needs to be a stop on both sides.Acknowledging Palestine as an official country is only a small step for U.N. More needs to be done and fast.


Your point on the article is?

I'm not even going to respond to you condemning the actions of a nation retaliating against a genocidal nation with one of the biggest military forces in the world that is hellbent on wiping the other side out.
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Fucking hate Israel. And Palestine.

Goodbye.
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 03 December 2012 - 16:38 PM
Your point on the article is?

I'm not even going to respond to you condemning the actions of a nation retaliating against a genocidal nation with one of the biggest military forces in the world that is hellbent on wiping the other side out.


My point is that, it's everyone's fault that this has happen. The US are still firmly behind the backs of Israel which is giving them the confidence and somewhat no fear in firing rockets into Palestine. Though the US strongly say no to any ground invasion, if the US can use "retaliation" as an excuse for rocket fires, they can too for a ground invasion. As for Palestine, the whole reason they have gotten themselves into this mess is because of Hamas who thinks he can gain something by firing rockets which 9 out of 10 get taken out by the Dome. Hence as written in the Times, he's planning for bigger and longer distance rocket missiles. If Israel who one day finally gets properly hit by those Hamas rockets, are they not the victims then? If you're saying that Palestine is a victim here, I would agree but on the basis that it is a victim of Hamas's actions and Israel's so call retaliation. It's Israel's Government hellbent on wiping out Palestine versus Hamas's idea of destroying Israel.

That's why I'm strongly in for a different approach by the US and U.N towards both Israel Hamas. The innocent public of both sides are the real victims.
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By Eugene Lee | Permalink | On 03 December 2012 - 15:47 PM
IMO as long as Iran and Lebanon still continue to back Hamas


Not sure how much they actually support them. The Lebanese and the Palestinians are different kinds of Muslims. They hate each other more than they hate us.

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