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Obtuse
Ah okay. Well I agree and disagree with you on your point. I have mentioned elsewhere that the tighter controls I would personally bring in would be psychiatric evaluation but I do think they people that are able to hold guns then they should be allowed to as a Right of sorts. I really like the ideal behind why America are allowed their Right to bear arms and it would only help here if only that area is adhered to.
Phoenix Arrow
Obtuse
I read somewhere that it is more to overthrow oppressive Governments but not sure how true it is.
Jamieandhisego
Ninja
Well yeah, but it's a stupid point anyway.
Ok, they have ready arms were they to rise up in revolution. But thats pretty much inconsequential when the only force they would be fighting against would be the US Army whose tanks, drones and air superiority make the fact that some people own hand guns and semi-automatic rifles an utter insignificance.
More likely is that they'd get themselves killed because they attack a vastly superior force and force them to defend themselves. Either way for a revolution in America to succeed you'd need the US Army not to act as a counter revolutionary force, shooting at them is going to ensure nothing more than more people die than would have needed to.
Phoenix Arrow
Yes, but think about when that was written. They had just spent 8 years at war with their ruling country that was pretty much screwing them and the most advanced weapon was a gun. Really shit guns too. The right to bear arms is there to protect your ability to be able to form a militia and have a solid crack at winning a battle with the powers that be. The actual quote in the constitution after all is "a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
That makes sense in the late 1700s. But now it's... I mean have however many guns you want, you're not going to overthrow the US government. I was going to explain why that's not possible but I find it too depressing to think that someone would need that explained to them. There's just no way. Not unless every other country in the world jumps on your team.
I'm sure I had a closing point in mind when I started this, but I forget now. I think you need to understand a little bit more about the difference between everyone has the RIGHT to bear arms and having that put in the document which founds your country and making guns legal as in Finland and Switzerland and places like that which you've never heard mass shooting happen in. The difference is entitlement, basically. Makes it harder to put regulations in place to stop people who shouldn't have guns getting guns because all the Republicans have to do is go "THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS, IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE GUNS AS AN AMERICAN" and then suddenly noone votes Democrat in the midwest.
For the record, I don't like guns because I'm from England so they scare me. I think they're pretty cool and some of my friend have those airsoft ones but if someone gave me a real one I'd feel very uncomfortable.
Franck
Reducing the total amount of guns to the point where it would actually make a difference would take several decades, perhaps even more than a century.
Eric Portapotty
Damn.
The Platypus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Flash.
North Korea, so safe.
Clearly I have been misinformed. I can't beleive how far ahead the US is to the rest of the world in that table.
Also in this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
I was surprised to see Switzerland and Finland in the top 20.
Phoenix Arrow
Don't know much about Switzerland, but in Finland I believe that's mostly due to a very high suicide rate.
Slashman X
King Luis
Its the same in Switzerland
Obtuse
Someone finally hits the nail on the head
King Luis
Obtuse
Why should they? It's about stuff they find interesting
King Luis
Because tweeting gun death rates per country is just stupid when you think about it. People just seem to be tweeting stuff in an attempt to sound informed rather than actually making sense of what they are tweeting.
Deano
King Luis
K3V0
The media is a business, they want to make money, so something like this helps them do exactly that.
King Luis
But then you could just turn around and say places that sell guns are just trying to make money, where do you stop?
Slashman X
Westboro Baptist Church planning on 'picketing' the funeral of the dead children
King Luis
Another bunch of fucktards doing shit for publicity.
K3V0
Places that sell guns are just trying to make money, that won't stop because some nut job walks into a restaurant, cinema or school with a gun and shoots people. As I said I agree that the real problem is these nutjobs get their fame from this and it sets examples for other fuckers to come along and do it. Unfortunately you can't stop the media from reporting it and the majority of them won't change the way they do that either.
King Luis
It can be regulated much more though, especially news outlets wrongly suggesting it was Ryan Lanza. Part of me hopes he sues whoever name him first for a shit ton of money but that probably won't happen.
K3V0
I'd imagine he could sue them for defamation.
You can't really regulate this though. The only way to stop it would be to ban the media from reporting about it and I'd imagine you can't do that, especially in a place like America with freedom of speech and all that. Again I agree with you, but I doubt they can do much to stop the media taking advantage of the situation and running story after story about it.
King Luis
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