terriersmad
16 years ago
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Were 0-3 down at half time but still managed to draw 3-3. Epic shithousery at Walsall today.

James Vaughan scoring his first goal since April 2015. Absolutely fantastic

Vaughan, Vaughan will tear you apart again!
Poe
17 years ago
2 weeks ago
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LETS TALK ABOUT SELZ BABY
LETS TALK ABOUT DIAME
LETS TALK ABOUT ISAAC HAYDEN AND MATT RITCHIE
AND SHELVEY!
LETS TALK ABOUT SELZ
gfnx25
12 years ago
6 years ago
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Vaughan, Vaughan will tear you apart again!


Was terrific alongside Pope today. Just a shame Pope came on after 30 minutes and wasn't in the starting XI. Shame that Pope is probably leaving this week anyway #Outflickered #Synergy
BR.
17 years ago
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We'll be down by Christmas at this rate
Number 1
16 years ago
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Good result for Newcastle by the looks & sounds of it. Seems like we're finally making our adjustment after arriving in the 2nd tier to a slap in the face.

Only seen the highlights on the Channel 5 show (I don't know why I go for there...) but Brighton's defence looked regularly terrible.
Shola
15 years ago
5 years ago
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Genuine comment on Newcastle signing Daryl Murphy

"Well Manure signed that Frank Zappa lookalike Ibramovitch or whatever he's called and he's older than Murphy."

There are very little differences in Daryl Murphy and Zlatan Ibrahimovic when you think about it.
Number 1
16 years ago
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Apparently Daryl Murphy was a fake story started by a Sky Sports parody account on Twitter.

So we can probably disregard that one. Well, for now.
Shola
15 years ago
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http://i2.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article11810766.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Cq72KncWEAAuXzN.jpg

These SSN fakes are gettign very realistic.

Number 1
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Shows how much attention I was paying when I was reading my Twitter this morning. Goddammit.

Erm, as for the signing, its an interesting one. Hopefully we get the one who was the league's top scorer in 2014/15, and not the one who scored only a handful last year. Could be a decent back-up option all the same.
Shedender
17 years ago
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Erm, as for the signing, its an interesting one. Hopefully we get the one who was the league's top scorer in 2014/15, and not the one who scored only a handful last year. Could be a decent back-up option all the same.

Unless Mitro and Gayle get injured, I can't see him getting much football which isn't a bad thing at his age but should be, as you said, a decent back-up option. I would now expect Adam Armstrong to depart the club on loan although I would've preferred to see him get some game time for Newcastle this season in the Championship.

Unless he's injured, can someone please sign Emmanuel Rivière or can we release him?
Shola
15 years ago
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Chronicle have really, really embarrassed themselves with Gouffran.

They posted 'hilarious' reaction gifs, when he scored in a preseson game, posted the same 'hilarious' reaction gifs when he was handed his first start of the season, posted loads of articles about how Rafa needs to clear out the deadwood etc.

Now they're posting bollocks like this "

So promising when he first signed, Yoan Gouffran looks to have finally recovered from being "Pardewed"" "The second half started with a volley from a Mo Diame cross. The Gouffran of last season would not have tried something like that."

He didn't fucking play last season.

It's simple what happened - we signing him he was good, he struggled a bit when the tactics where changed and it didn't suit him, Pardew tried to shoehorn him into the middle and it didn't work. Carver, McClaren and Benitez haven't been forced to play him out of position / overlook him for the past 18 months.

He's a good player, he always has been one. It's mass hysteria that he wasn't.
Grimnir
16 years ago
2 months ago
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Testimonial for this legend today, glad they got better weather there than here for it!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq3bgGjWcAAioA1.jpg

Held at AFC Fylde's new ground for obvious reasons...
gfnx25
12 years ago
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This thread is turning into Newcastle fans actually contributing and discussing.

Gone are the days, where we'd just piss our heads at other clubs being tinpot and random fuck ups in the Football League
Shedender
17 years ago
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Sorry @gfnx25. You can (hopefully) return to taking the piss out of FL clubs next season.
Poe
17 years ago
2 weeks ago
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This thread is turning into Newcastle fans actually contributing and discussing.

Gone are the days, where we'd just piss our heads at other clubs being tinpot and random fuck ups in the Football League


There's probably more Newcastle fans regular on these boards than any other club tbf and we've been kicked out the Premier League thread

As for Gouffran - he's not amazing but he works hard. He stopped working hard for a bit and was quite rightly criticised for it as he's not good enough to do that.
terriersmad
16 years ago
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There's probably more Newcastle fans regular on these boards than any other club tbf and we've been kicked out the Premier League thread

As for Gouffran - he's not amazing but he works hard. He stopped working hard for a bit and was quite rightly criticised for it as he's not good enough to do that.

I think technically your club kicked you out

Galling that a new £3.5m striker is seen as a backup option, I have to say. I know I bang on about it, but it just demonstrates the difference between the haves and have-nots of the division. That's twice our record fee! Do think that Ipswich have played a bit of a blinder on that one, I have to say, but it leaves them a striker light and they weren't full of hot-shots as it was. That Grant Ward has started well, but he's a winger and not a striker.

Speaking of things that have had me shouting 'how much?' in the Championship transfer market, I see Derby have splashed £8m on Matej Vydra. That's the same Matej Vydra who netted 5 league goals all last season (after costing an admittedly very average Reading £2m on loan). Madness. Absolute madness. And Oliver Burke (no, I wasn't sure who he was either) has moved from Forest to RB Leipzig for £13m. Again, completely bonkers money for a kid who I actually thought was Chris Burke until I remembered he'd gone to Birmingham. He's played fewer than 30 games, less than half of them starts, and two of them for fucking Bradford who returned to sender a little over 12 months ago on grounds of him not being right good.

More sensibly, Jamie Paterson has gone to Bristol City for about half a million. Which is far more sensible business, and I reckon Bristol City have a bit of a bargain.
Number 1
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Its all relative - Newcastle were one of the world's 20 richest clubs in this decade (might well still be on when the next list is released in April, given that'd be for the 2015/16 season). Shows much the PL distorts finances. Hell, with him and Achraf Lazaar now in, that makes it 11 new signings, for £57million (although net spend is less than £10m before any loan fees that might've been paid for Krul, Saivet, de Jong and Thauvin). Even if it is a bit "PL or bust"... hopefully it pays off.

As for our old friend Gouffran, he was good in his first 12 months, then seemed to lose something as he went deeper and deeper, and was among those who downed tools when Cabaye left. He was also poor in his 2015/16 cameos. But tbf, he's come back this year and been vastly improved. Dunno if that's 2nd tier or being restored to a further forward role or Benitez being confident he's back in business, but its good to see and hopefully it continues.

I had no idea Derby had signed Vydra. Bold step given, as said, he was woeful at Reading last year. Clearly Derby must be desperate given so far they have been cack in terms of scoring. Burke is a real "WTF" kind of transfer, not least given I for some reason didn't think Red Bull gave Leipzig that big a share of their billions. Apparently Forest's manager said yesterday he wouldn't be sold after he scored and I think set one up during their win v Leeds. So someone's clearly fucked him over. Hopefully for his sake it doesn't end like Dale Jennings.

Surprised Cardiff are bold enough to sell David Marshall. They've not looked great in their highlights so far, and seeing as the only guy whose scored a winner for them this season is Shane Duffy, it looks like a gamble too far.
gfnx25
12 years ago
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This Lazaar guy is quite good I believe. Heard good thing of him and was linked to bigger clubs if I remember correctly so very surprised he turned up at Newcastle. That said, speaks volumes about what kind of players Newcastle can attract

I also, didn't mean my previous post negatively at all. This thread used to be the biggest car crash and the deadest thing on this site, so good to see more people coming over here and taking note
terriersmad
16 years ago
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Number 1, you're nowhere near the biggest culprits of ridiculous spending in the division, though you've spent a silly amount this summer - at least you've sold players to fund most of it. I always assume the worst and blame the rest of it on parachute payments. I think I'm like most Championship fans when I say I'm not a fan, precisely because it distorts the playing field and encourages the attitude to spend big to try to get up. Solidarity payments hardly cover the shortfall other clubs need to make up. Then there's Derby, who spunked about £20m on players last season and look to be spunking more than that this year - Jonathan Kodjia for £14m is daft money on top of Vydra. I know they've struggled for goals, but really? £14m? Where's that coming from and what happened to Financial Fair Play? Not just the transfer fees, of course, but the wages - a much bigger killer for most of the division in my view, especially in view of the ridiculous transfer window situation.

Forest are in real bother with the owner. On the field they've got off to a great start, even if they've come up short against the big guns of the division, but Fawaz is a real destabilising influence. I was reading last night that their assistant manager is going to resign over it and 8 players hand in transfer requests. Not a happy ship. Moreso given they're on the brink of being taken over by a complete nutcase. One of a number in the division who deserve better ownership and will suffer in the long term because of it.
Vercoe
11 years ago
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(Edited down for ease)

Forest are in real bother with the owner. On the field they've got off to a great start, even if they've come up short against the big guns of the division, but Fawaz is a real destabilising influence. I was reading last night that their assistant manager is going to resign over it and 8 players hand in transfer requests. Not a happy ship. Moreso given they're on the brink of being taken over by a complete nutcase. One of a number in the division who deserve better ownership and will suffer in the long term because of it.


So much for the Fit and Proper Persons Test then ey! The Football League's a bit shit really, they should sort themselves out in-house before they worry about revamping competitions or re-branding or any of that bollocks.
Poe
17 years ago
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Brighton fans seem to know loads about FFP if Twitter is anything to go by

We've spent less than them and earn way more - why on earth would we be anywhere near failing to meet the criteria?
Number 1
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Unless Mitro and Gayle get injured, I can't see him getting much football which isn't a bad thing at his age but should be, as you said, a decent back-up option. I would now expect Adam Armstrong to depart the club on loan although I would've preferred to see him get some game time for Newcastle this season in the Championship.

Unless he's injured, can someone please sign Emmanuel Rivière or can we release him?

I'd imagine he's a back-up with 2nd tier experience. I saw a line on nufc.com comparing it to Marlon Harewood in 2009/10, which I suppose it is to some degree. Tbh I'd like to see Armstrong get game-time, but that's unlikely.
Number 1, you're nowhere near the biggest culprits of ridiculous spending in the division, though you've spent a silly amount this summer - at least you've sold players to fund most of it. I always assume the worst and blame the rest of it on parachute payments. I think I'm like most Championship fans when I say I'm not a fan, precisely because it distorts the playing field and encourages the attitude to spend big to try to get up. Solidarity payments hardly cover the shortfall other clubs need to make up. Then there's Derby, who spunked about £20m on players last season and look to be spunking more than that this year - Jonathan Kodjia for £14m is daft money on top of Vydra. I know they've struggled for goals, but really? £14m? Where's that coming from and what happened to Financial Fair Play? Not just the transfer fees, of course, but the wages - a much bigger killer for most of the division in my view, especially in view of the ridiculous transfer window situation.

Forest are in real bother with the owner. On the field they've got off to a great start, even if they've come up short against the big guns of the division, but Fawaz is a real destabilising influence. I was reading last night that their assistant manager is going to resign over it and 8 players hand in transfer requests. Not a happy ship. Moreso given they're on the brink of being taken over by a complete nutcase. One of a number in the division who deserve better ownership and will suffer in the long term because of it.

I know Kodija had a great first year for Bristol City, but blimey. Sure, Derby are loaded by virtue of the fact they have a tech billionaire and boyhood fan owning the joint, but that's the kind of thinking of a Premier League club, not one who has spent the last few years finding new ways to fuck-up promotion challenges. And yeah. I can imagine they're spending a fortune on wages. Surely they're likelier than us or the other 2 who came down with us to be breaking FFP, similar to when Bournemouth broke it but got promoted. Though I do agree parachute payments distort things heavily - last time we went down we sold about £30million in players but spent barely anything on transfer fees (though did fork out a fuckton in wages, mind).

Tbf there's a load of lower league clubs with awful owners, even beyond the obvious culprits like the Oystons, Venky's, Cellino and that hedge fund ruining Coventry City. Fawaz has always struck me as an odd one, not least given his managerial roll. But their fans are pretty fucked off - £17million out, less than £1million spent, and a fanbse openly in revolt towards its owners. Henri Lansbury Tweeting very passive aggressively after the sale was confirmed may well indicate some dressing room discord to boot, even if the disgruntled AM is meant to still be there. Might not help there's talk of Assombalonga being sold too - to Derby, oddly enough. I'll be amazed if that happens, but given how fucked up things are there, its not like its unlikely. And yeah - I heard about the utter basketcase currently banned from Greek football for intimidating officials trying to buy them. You do wonder when does it end?

Incidentally, I've seen all the clubs being bought by Chinese owners over the summer (both PL + 2nd tier). If there's a big event that leads to a mass exit, that could be a major mess.
So much for the Fit and Proper Persons Test then ey! The Football League's a bit shit really, they should sort themselves out in-house before they worry about revamping competitions or re-branding or any of that bollocks.

Its been in need of reform for years though hasn't it?
Poe
17 years ago
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We've actually made 1.3m of profit this summer - and are yet to sell Sissoko.
Number 1
16 years ago
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We've actually made 1.3m of profit this summer - and are yet to sell Sissoko.

I was under the assumption we'd spent more than we'd bought in. But then I don't know the loan fees. Doesn't help the club only announces undisclosed fees.
Poe
17 years ago
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Yeah, its all an estimation of course, but we're operating well within our means is more the point I was making.

We could go out and spend another 20-30m if we sell Sissoko and that'd still be the case, and even then thats just profit/loss on transfers - we'll make more than everyone in the division in other ways too - we're nowhere near breaking FFP.
Number 1
16 years ago
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Kodija has signed for Aston Villa for a tier-record fee of £15million. Probably not a good start that without him, Bristol City beat Villa at the weekend.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
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Villa have spent an insane amount of money, especially on the two up front, no excuse for them not to get promoted now.
Rick87
14 years ago
5 days ago
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Villa have spent an insane amount of money, especially on the two up front, no excuse for them not to get promoted now.

Can't see that happening to be honest.
Number 1
16 years ago
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With all the empty stadiums, goals scored by players over 21 born outside England, and social media aggro between the sponsor and fans, its nice to see the Johnstone's Paint Trophy revamp going well.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
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Can't see that happening to be honest.


Judging by your start me neither, but having spent that much money surely the fans are demanding you to be up there?

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