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The general air amongst fans and Facebook users is we would be happy just to get morale around the club back up, relations between fans and various players are still pure poison and there seems to be no real sense of optimistim. Just being in the top half of the table and putting together a few good runs would probably be enough this year, perhaps sneaking into the playoffs.
Poe
You meen you don't belive we will be in the Champions League in three years time?!?!
In order to help us complete our domination of world football We've signed Albert Adomah fron Middlesbrough with Adama Traore going the other way.
ItsWoosey
terriersmad
Still manages to look normal and balanced when compared to the likes of Cellino and the Venkys. He is an arrogant cockwomble though, with all the humanity of a sentient toaster.
Shola
It's absolutely phenomenal - Newcastle fans have claimed for years that we must get rid of the likes of Gosling, Williamson, Routledge and Simpson, and that is was an insult to witness them play football. - now they're actively celebrating the idea of signing average players.
Newcastle were considered immoral for not paying through the nose for players who didn't want to be here. Now Rafa understands the fans. And the fans want a squad that won't survive in the Premiership.
Grimnir
You already had that. Hence why you're here.
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Poe
But we're in the Championship.
Grimnir
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He'd have been good tbf for this level, regardless of how much Karanka seems to be pouting about the fact he wanted McCormack instead. But nope he's still at Middlesbrough.
Grimnir
Shola
The maxim if you buy Champhionship players you'll become a Championship club is fairly true. Either Benitez is solidifying us as a mid table Championship team. Or at best we're going to need massive overhaul in the summer. If you believe the club raking in cash and buying lower quality players is a good thing then fair play to you.
Is Rafa on Championship wages?
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Shola
My problem with Newcastle is that I've felt that arrogance and hubris have been the core problem - I think that the club are continuing on with that rather than actually attempting to find solutions. - Riviere is that point incarnate he had a shite four months - and has been an outcast ever since. - You're criticising him again - but we've bought in Clark, Atsu and Murphy - guys who also couldn't hack the Premier League and had far longer to do so.
See also Gouffran - Benitez spent all summer trying to shift him - until he's forced to play him - and then has to do a 180 because he's better than what he's got.
Grimnir
gfnx25
Actually, scored twice, so make that 3 in 2 League One games. Flitcroft already cannot hear the haters anymore!!
Seriously, his link up play with Tom Pope is so good. He brings the best out of TP and vice versa. Last year we had Clarke, who didn't link up at all and basically lived off the chances our midfield created. Refreshing change of scenery. If he stays fit, he can do damage to anyone in this division (Big if though)
Good 4-1 win over Port Vale today anyway. Played 4-4-2 with the mentioned two upfront and looked very sharp from the beginning. Conditions were slightly horrendous, to put it mildly, first goal was a bit fortunate as one of their players attempted to basss the ball back and got stuck in a puddle, which Tom Pope gladly picked up and squared for Vaughan. Second goal was decent strike from Mellis, which was his first goal since new year's day 2014 by the way. James Vaughan added a third around the half hour mark. Second half, we didn't take the foot off the gas and kept on pushng. Some poor defending for their goal but still, kept on pushing and Hallam Hope made it 4-1 late on.
Cannot fault that. First half we were terrific and did well in the second half to keep pressing them and not go ultra defensive and shit it, like Walsall the other week. Valiants not really happy with the weather and that the game wasn't called off. Only thing I'll say about this is, that it's the same pitch for both so if they went forward they could've forced the same errors we did from them today, if they had actually bothered to go forward that is. Not our fault their French and Portuguese journeymen couldn't handle the conditions at La Stade de Gigg.
terriersmad
Fitness.
I speak from experience
Grimnir
Can't believe Oldham took on Charles Dunne. The kid is a liability, which is why even we tried to play him as little as possible since Holloway brought him in. Saw he gave away a penalty today as part of the defence that conceded three.
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Been some decent highlights appear though. Even if its weird a bit to have Northampton v MK Dons & Gillingham v Sheffield United for a Super Sunday.
Tbf (only using a few examples) Ameobi was always limited, if sounded like a good off-field character, Williamson was crap more often than not after 2011-12, Gosling was frequently injured to the point of invisibility, and Routledge - at the point he left in 2011 - had looked like he was not cut out for BPL. Well until Swansea managed it. Each player has reasons that, at the time, might've warranted criticism or justified an exit. Although Perch was an error in removal (I'm not sure people were that critical of him as they were with others - limited, perhaps, but a better squad player than others). Maybe on reflection Simpson was too, but out of contract and wanted first team, so that probably couldn't have been avoided.
I'm aware its hardly a pioneering new strategy. Just something different from a policy that failed. In any case there's a continual expectation shift, as at various points, Carr's view still looked rosy following that then-relatively useful success of 2011-12, but then his powers began gradually waning. I doubt the likes of Southampton, Stoke or Swansea don't sell their team as a stepping stone to younger imports, but it hardly worked out well, even if at the time, it probably seemed like it might work. I don't think we've done that badly anyway, considering demotion makes us a less attractive proposition by default. This downer makes it sound like we bought the Charlton, MK Dons and Bolton squads that found the Championship too much last year.
To some degree, there probably has to be some arrogance to get promotion in this division. Everyone else is presumably gonna see the Mags games an opportunity to win and have their historic upset, so being a bunch of bastards has to be done, and it wasn't in the opening 2 games. But if its in reference to a long-standing thing among fans, there's plenty of clubs whose fans behave like berks with ideas above their station. That and expectations have to shift to any given scenario - in Christmas 2013, with the team in with a shout of top 6, it was right to expect more than a sleepwalking drift to the finish line. It was also right not to expect a similar drift after, albeit from a less firm position that lead to some shit your pants moments.
terriersmad
BR.
As if Derby have only scored 1 goal after 5 and a half games, even we've mustered 5.
Shola
Think we'd have been a lot more comfortable putting Mitrovic on and trying to play in Derby's half.
The individual performances are fine, but I think we's see a lot more out of Diame, Ritchie and Gayle if we were on the front foot more.
Shedender
gfnx25
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terriersmad
That said, letting Chris Martin go, hardly playing Darren Bent and bringing in three players who scored all of 8 league goals between them last season to fire them to the top might be an indicator.
Grimnir
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Its a puzzling one, that one. I guess ultimately they've made a lot of bad buys since failing to get promoted in 2014, while having associated manager problems (McClaren getting distracted by Newcastle, whatever the fuck happened with Paul Clement, Darren Wassall being out of his depth, and now Pearson). Chris Martin leaving for Vydra is an oddity - flogging a proven scorer, attitude and form question or not, for Vydra, who was awful at Reading last year, seems like a backwards step.
Anya was probably their best player on Saturday (well, him or Olsson), but they looked very anemic on Saturday, like they could've played another 90 minutes on top of the game and still not troubled Sels.