footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
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Going into Football Manager 2017, I wanted to start as an unemployed manager with no badges or experience, etc., and then have just one save. That way I would get to go through the growing pains of learning the new version of the game at the same time my own career in-game is going through growing pains too. Simply put, I didn't want to do what many others do, get comfortable with the game and then do their "real" save. The reason for this is because, in the 2016 game, I kept on quitting in the first season or two and starting over, and I want to tell myself, no excuses, regardless of what happens, just keep pushing forward. That is my one career, and I'm going to own it.

However, I immediately came upon an issue. I want to be an American managing in Europe, but the only birthplace I can have is Washington, D.C. (Regardless of what city I enter when creating a profile, it changes to Washington in game.) I know that this is most likely a cosmetic feature (my birthplace), but I really do not want to start a save that I expect to last decades in game time and have to always see that city in my profile and in news items. Conversely, I do not want to take on a different nationality either (as far as I can tell, this works perfectly for other nationalities - i.e. I can pick birthplaces like Bastia, France, and Inverness, Scotland, and those are carried over to my profile in-game).

I brought it up in SI's bugs forum and was told, "Thanks for raising this issue. We are working towards a solution for the problem," and, "Unfortunately, we are unable to provide any guidance on the timescale of fixes." That was on Monday, and now it's Friday, and it's still not fixed. I'm assuming that I am just going to have to wait for the first patch? Doing some quick Google research, it looks like the first patch is usually released in December. Is this generally the case?

I know that definitive answers are not possible, but I'm just looking for general feedback from regular players here. I wouldn't mind waiting a few days before starting my one long-term save, but I really do not want to wait a month. If it's going to be that long, I'd rather just bite the bullet and either be an American born in Washington or pick a different nationality.

tldr ... Do I have to wait for a patch for my issue that is detailed in the second paragraph to be fixed? If so, when do you think the first patch will be released?
VP.
14 years ago
2 months ago
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I've never looked before but would the in game editor allow you to change it at a later date?
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
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Unfortunately, no. I can change my nationality but not my birthplace. Incredibly, I could start up a game as an American born in Washington and then change my nationality from American to Scottish, yet my birthplace will remain as Washington. (And I did check this with other countries/cities. I create a manager born in Bastia, France, then use the in-game editor to change him to Swiss - it's done by clicking, "Start Editing" - and then he is Swiss but is still born in Bastia, France, just without French citizenship.) Yeah, that was one of the first things I thought of - if I could use the in-game editor to change it - but that's not an option either, unfortunately.
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
11
VP., you know, you got me thinking. Another workaround that I could do is use the in-game editor to become an American who was born in a foreign city.

However, if anybody has any thoughts on how long you think this might take SI to fix, please share. An educated guess is fine as I know that it could be fixed tomorrow, or it could be fixed next month.
Grimnir
16 years ago
4 months ago
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As it's nothing "major", I don't imagine they will release a patch for it separately. So, unless something big comes up between now and Feb/March I don't see it being done any time before then.
Cymro
18 years ago
3 days ago
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They could well hot fix it. SI have been known to issue out small patches from time to time. Who knows.
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
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As it's nothing "major", I don't imagine they will release a patch for it separately. So, unless something big comes up between now and Feb/March I don't see it being done any time before then.


Don't they usually release a patch in December?

They could well hot fix it. SI have been known to issue out small patches from time to time. Who knows.


That would be great, but, unfortunately, I would imagine that if they were going to do that, they likely would have done it by now.

Bottom line, I'm thinking the odds are likely that it won't be until December despite it most likely not being that difficult for them to fix.
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
11
SI just released an update ... that does not fix what I thought would have been an incredibly easy thing for them to fix. This is so frustrating. Well, I guess this answers my question - I need to just give up hope on this being fixed before December at the absolute earliest.
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
11
Update from SI: "We appreciate how frustrating this must be. Although issues may appear simple, each and every one must be tested and re-tested to ensure there are no knock-on effects from the solutions we put in place. Rest assured, this issue is under review - we just don't want to release it in an update and then have another problem arise because we were rushing it out. Again, thanks for your patience."

I am unsure how what appears to be a cosmetic feature would have any knock-on effects, but I do respect that this could be more difficult to fix than it appears to me.
sscouser
16 years ago
3 weeks ago
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Are you in England because I live in the states but am from Liverpool and if I recall there are more than one American cities to choose from. Am wondering if the game knows what region you are in and gives you them extra cities in foreign countries to choose from. I might be wrong also lol
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
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I'm pretty sure we all get the exact same game.

But, to answer your question, I am American (and still live in the U.S.), and I have a lot of American cities to choose from when choosing one as my birthplace. The issue is that after I select a birthplace from that extensive list, finish creating the manager, put him in charge of a team (or make him unemployed), divvy up attribute points, etc., and go into the game, I'm listed as having a birthplace of Washington, D.C. So, the issue is that regardless of which American city I select, at some point between that screen and getting into the game itself, it loses the information, thinks I left it blank and gives me the default as a result (if you leave the birthplace blank, you are automatically given the capital city of your chosen nationality).

Over on the SI forums, apparently somebody else is in a similar situation as me as this person posted: "I typically play one save for two years until I buy the next version and I don't want to start a career with Washington DC as my birthplace." SI responded by saying that they understand that this is frustrating and that they are looking into it and will keep us updated as they find out more.

Hopefully, it gets fixed soon. As I said above, I cannot imagine that this would be that difficult for them to fix, especially since it appears to be a cosmetic feature (i.e. "knock-on effects" would not be an issue, presumably), but I obviously don't know the ins and outs of the game or whether or not it is 100 percent cosmetic or not.
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
11
Quick update - I was about to near my breaking point (not wanting to wait any longer) and asked for another update on the SI forums and was told that I should probably just start now, indicating that the fix is likely not imminent (as noted above, I don't mind waiting a few days more but if it is going to weeks, I'd rather just start playing). So, I am going to dive in at some point later today.
sscouser
16 years ago
3 weeks ago
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[quote name='footballintherain' user_id='841011' id='359590' timestamp='1479827819']
Quick update - I was about to near my breaking point (not wanting to wait any longer) and asked for another update on the SI forums and was told that I should probably just start now, indicating that the fix is likely not imminent (as noted above, I don't mind waiting a few days more but if it is going to weeks, I'd rather just start playing). So, I am going to dive in at some point later today.
if you type in the city a list should come up of all the American cities
footballintherain
8 years ago
4 months ago
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if you type in the city a list should come up of all the American cities


It does. I have a ton of American cities to choose from and can select any of them. The issue is that when I finish creating my profile and go into the game, it is always then changed to Washington.

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