Medmax
12 years ago
11 months ago
82
Hi, I'm wondering since I don't see any mention about it here, am I the only one who has Messi with a big wage decreased?

Messi used to get around 3,900,000 euros/month in the previous database, and earns "only" 1,700,000 euros/month now. I thought maybe you put the net wage, even though it should stay gross (we can see the before/after tax on the contract page), but Ronaldo is still paid 2,930,000 euros/month.

The same with Neymar, around 2,500,000 euros/month at Barcelona in the initial database, now 1,900,000 euros/month at PSG in your update, when he should be the highest earner (30M euros/year NET, which is around 45M/year gross..Meaning he's earning ALMOST the same as Pogba: 1,490,000 euros/month which didn't change between the original database and your update.

The same with Dani Alves with a wage of 311,000 euros/month in your database making him as one of the lowest earner at PSG, when he signed for 12M/year in real life??? And his wage was around 700,000 euros/month at Juve in the original database.

Again, the same with Thiago Motta with 284,000 euros/month gross in your database, when it was around 750,000 gross in the original database, reflecting more the reality (almost 800,000 euros/months).

And the list goes on, I've seen so many wage change on players which don' reflect the truth.

Thanks to highlight me if this is a mistake, or how can I fix this myself when your update is in XML document format, and not in FMF (so I can't open it with the editor). Thank you
Medmax
12 years ago
11 months ago
82
Unfortunately not at this time

What a shame about the 1 year older added and that you didn't make it in a separate file. At least, we would have had the choice to include it or not. I've been a big fan of your updates for all the previous FM versions compare to any others on the FM dedicated websites because yours is complete, the players contract and transfers are up to date, and that YOU DIDN'T TOUCH the CA and PA of the players.

Unfortunately, I'm not very fan of this new addition. Just hope you'll make it in a separate file for the next editions, the same as you used for "removing loans" or "promotions and relegations" for example.
Any chance I can change this new feature in the editor myself or did you actually add 1 year to EVERY SINGLE PLAYERS one by one?

Thanks guys.
Oskar Bengtsson
6 years ago
2 years ago
20
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like all players with contracts extending beyond 2021 has their contracts to expire in 2017 now. I had to renew more than half of my squad's contracts with the latest update. Does anyone else have this problem?
Footygamer
17 years ago
2 days ago
75,248
What a shame about the 1 year older added and that you didn't make it in a separate file. At least, we would have had the choice to include it or not. I've been a big fan of your updates for all the previous FM versions compare to any others on the FM dedicated websites because yours is complete, the players contract and transfers are up to date, and that YOU DIDN'T TOUCH the CA and PA of the players.

Unfortunately, I'm not very fan of this new addition. Just hope you'll make it in a separate file for the next editions, the same as you used for "removing loans" or "promotions and relegations" for example.
Any chance I can change this new feature in the editor myself or did you actually add 1 year to EVERY SINGLE PLAYERS one by one?

Thanks guys.

I understand and I might rethink it, yes every single players age is changed by one year.

What's your main problem with the age change, is it just that CA won't develop as well?

I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like all players with contracts extending beyond 2021 has their contracts to expire in 2017 now. I had to renew more than half of my squad's contracts with the latest update. Does anyone else have this problem?

Can you tell me the team you're referring to and i'll look into it
knotclown
10 years ago
5 years ago
52
hope you'll make it in a separate file for the next editions
Medmax
12 years ago
11 months ago
82
I understand and I might rethink it, yes every single players age is changed by one year.

What's your main problem with the age change, is it just that CA won't develop as well?

Thanks Rob. Like a lot of users, we download a new database to update the new squads and reflect the reality after the transfer window. The reason I'm not keen on the new addition is:

- ALL the players are 1 year older with an unchanged CA, meaning a lack of improvement for the same period of time .To correct that, you'll have to change the CA as well. The CA/PA increase/decrease is very subjective and something that I like to do myself in the editor according to my opinion. If you had to take care of it: 1) the users could disagree with your opinion, 2) it will be EXTREMELY time consuming for you to apply all the change, 3) it will stop some users to choose this database. I have always favoured the sortioutsi update because it NEVER touched the CA/PA up to now. In addition to be very complete and mostly accurate, it makes the difference over all others for me.

I completely understand the idea of +1 year older to reflect real players age RIGHT NOW in real life, but I think it would have been relevant if the start game was in July 2017, but this is not the case and a new save starts in July 2016.

- ALL the players have 1 year less on their contract compare to their real life one. .

For a lot of people, Football Manager helps us to have information about players (age, contract dates, wage...), and this new addition disturbs me a bit. ALL players' date of birth are increased by 1 year, and all their contract ending decreased by 1 year. For me, it doesn't reflect the reality anymore. So to speak, if Neymar is born in 1992 and has a contract ending in 2022 with PSG, that's what I like to see in the game (even if it makes him a 6 years contract instead of 5 since the game start in 2016) and not a "new" birthdate in 1991 with a contract ending in 2021 if you understand me. I like to know players by "age generation" (born in 1995, 1996...) and this confuses me.

Again, I love the sortitoutsi updated database because it is the best one out there. I guess some people would love the new player's age (+1) and new contract (-1) system, but it is just not for me. I hope you'll get my point and you'll be able to separate it in a different file, so we'll have the choice to include it or not.

Hopefully, you'll take into consideration this message. Your updated database always gives a "second life" to Football Manager in September. Moreover and as you know, every time FM comes out in November, the game is flawed with some bugs and become really playable and enjoyable a couple months later. Again, the sortitoutsi data update is the only way for me to keep playing on a stable FM17 with the 2017/18 data until FM18 is patched and fixed.

Thank you for your attention.
Grzegorz Kopeć
6 years ago
3 months ago
16
ITALIAN, GERMAN AND ENGLISH LEAGUE DOESN'T WORK !!!

EDIT : I unistal all before patch and instal only actualy, and it's helped
QP
17 years ago
3 weeks ago
75
I love this database but I don't like this new +1 age feature, because normally our game starts in 2016 and It's ok for me, if I/You want to play in 2017 then I/You can easily use the real fixture file and start with that.

And If you don't separate these +1 age files at least warn people about this in info page of data update.
Cymro
17 years ago
4 days ago
6,379
ITALIAN, GERMAN AND ENGLISH LEAGUE DOESN'T WORK !!!

EDIT : I unistal all before patch and instal only actualy, and it's helped


They quite clearly do work.

Please ensure that you have the latest DB version of FM17 running, 17.3.
You have deleted all other older version of our DB ... all the files.
Using STEAM to run the game.
Placed the files in the correct editor data folder.
Not using other Transfer Updates which could cause conflict.
CazzaNevs
10 years ago
6 hours ago
4
Sorry, enjoy the updates greatly, but I do not appreciate the age changes.

Please make it a separate file so it can be a choice!
Footygamer
17 years ago
2 days ago
75,248
Thanks for all the feedback, i'll separate out the age and contract changes. Although it will have to wait until Monday now
Medmax
12 years ago
11 months ago
82
Thanks for all the feedback, i'll separate out the age and contract changes. Although it will have to wait until Monday now

Thanks Rob, you're a legend mate...
Gee_Simpson
14 years ago
1 month ago
189
Premium
Yeah I concur with Medmax, the points he makes are spot on, I completely agree.

Thanks for acknowledging his points and deciding to make it seperate, great job!
Tommy Hughes
11 years ago
3 hours ago
645
I agree and and I was very happy to see Rob's answer as well. You're all doing a wonderful job, people!
Pedro de Andrade
7 years ago
4 weeks ago
3
Bruno Fernandes in Sporting Clube de Portugal in the last update is transferred to sampdoria again, someone knows how to communicate to correct it? Thanks
Pedro de Andrade
7 years ago
4 weeks ago
3
Paulo Oliveira left Sporting Clube de Portugal for Eibar and was given a € 8 million repurchase clause, Matheus Pereira and Domingos Duarte on loan, Francisco Geraldes on loan to Rio Ave, Mama Balde and Ryan Gaulde on loan to Aves and leonardo Ruiz Loan to Boavista, all these loans Sporting Clube de Portugal has the option to bring them back at any time, it will be possible to correct
Cymro
17 years ago
4 days ago
6,379
Paulo Oliveira left Sporting Clube de Portugal for Eibar and was given a € 8 million repurchase clause, Matheus Pereira and Domingos Duarte on loan, Francisco Geraldes on loan to Rio Ave, Mama Balde and Ryan Gaulde on loan to Aves and leonardo Ruiz Loan to Boavista, all these loans Sporting Clube de Portugal has the option to bring them back at any time, it will be possible to correct


You can submit these deals ... here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update#submit_changes
SirTAVARES
11 years ago
2 years ago
23,854
Banned

no need all deals were done. he probably doesn't have 17.3 patch or didnt deleted old files

as usual
naspa01
10 years ago
4 days ago
3
+1 year thing not a fan; i would love to make them younger if given a choice so great players last longer Work appreciated
finalthrd
10 years ago
2 years ago
245
Have always used data updates from FM Scout opposed to the SIOSI data update because I didn't know it existed. Boy, do I feel stupid now...

I agree with the others not super fond of the +1 edit but can understand why some may be. Look forward to beginning a new save when you release the update with it optional.

In the meantime, do you mind telling me the latest update that doesn't have it included in case I get impatient?

(Referring to this page here - https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/releases/8)

Thanks!
Gee_Simpson
14 years ago
1 month ago
189
Premium
Have always used data updates from FM Scout opposed to the SIOSI data update because I didn't know it existed. Boy, do I feel stupid now...

I agree with the others not super fond of the +1 edit but can understand why some may be. Look forward to beginning a new save when you release the update with it optional.

In the meantime, do you mind telling me the latest update that doesn't have it included in case I get impatient?

(Referring to this page here - https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/releases/8)

Thanks!


Hi mate I believe the latest one without the +1 year is V11931 - 15th Aug 2017 - 14:02pm
coach.ita
13 years ago
1 year ago
108
I'm happy that Rob has heard all the comments about this new +1 update. (It was interesting the idea that players could be bought that "normally" can not)
Personally, I'm from the 2012 edition that I use your database. It's the best on the square. You are unique!
finalthrd
10 years ago
2 years ago
245
Hi mate I believe the latest one without the +1 year is V11931 - 15th Aug 2017 - 14:02pm
Thanks! I'll take a look.
stanis.larochelle
8 years ago
2 years ago
191
If I don't want the +1 about age and -1 about contract?
Footygamer
17 years ago
2 days ago
75,248
If I don't want the +1 about age and -1 about contract?

As has been said we will change this in the next day or two, just need to find the time
pablito99
6 years ago
1 year ago
4
Hello, I have a problem, I'm downloading the latest update to FM17, all transfers are in addition to Jermain Lens, who should be on hire in Besiktas, can you know what the problem is and how to fix it?
Cymro
17 years ago
4 days ago
6,379
Hello, I have a problem, I'm downloading the latest update to FM17, all transfers are in addition to Jermain Lens, who should be on hire in Besiktas, can you know what the problem is and how to fix it?


Please ensure that you have the latest DB version of FM17 running, 17.3.
You have deleted all other older version of our DB ... all the files.
Using STEAM to run the game.
Placed the files in the correct editor data folder.
Not using other Transfer Updates which could cause conflict.
christos93
7 years ago
4 months ago
37
The previous version data update it was better. Make two editions please.A new and an old version
Cymro
17 years ago
4 days ago
6,379
The previous version data update it was better. Make two editions please.A new and an old version


Care to explain further?
pablito99
6 years ago
1 year ago
4
Still nothing helps, wants to start a career in Besiktas, and still lacking Lens, despite the fact that other transfers are active, the current squad except the above mentioned player.,
The update is working properly, because Nasri is already in the new club, and the rest of the players also, not the Lens, who should be on loan in Besiktas

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