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Medmax
Messi used to get around 3,900,000 euros/month in the previous database, and earns "only" 1,700,000 euros/month now. I thought maybe you put the net wage, even though it should stay gross (we can see the before/after tax on the contract page), but Ronaldo is still paid 2,930,000 euros/month.
The same with Neymar, around 2,500,000 euros/month at Barcelona in the initial database, now 1,900,000 euros/month at PSG in your update, when he should be the highest earner (30M euros/year NET, which is around 45M/year gross..Meaning he's earning ALMOST the same as Pogba: 1,490,000 euros/month which didn't change between the original database and your update.
The same with Dani Alves with a wage of 311,000 euros/month in your database making him as one of the lowest earner at PSG, when he signed for 12M/year in real life??? And his wage was around 700,000 euros/month at Juve in the original database.
Again, the same with Thiago Motta with 284,000 euros/month gross in your database, when it was around 750,000 gross in the original database, reflecting more the reality (almost 800,000 euros/months).
And the list goes on, I've seen so many wage change on players which don' reflect the truth.
Thanks to highlight me if this is a mistake, or how can I fix this myself when your update is in XML document format, and not in FMF (so I can't open it with the editor). Thank you
Medmax
What a shame about the 1 year older added and that you didn't make it in a separate file. At least, we would have had the choice to include it or not. I've been a big fan of your updates for all the previous FM versions compare to any others on the FM dedicated websites because yours is complete, the players contract and transfers are up to date, and that YOU DIDN'T TOUCH the CA and PA of the players.
Unfortunately, I'm not very fan of this new addition. Just hope you'll make it in a separate file for the next editions, the same as you used for "removing loans" or "promotions and relegations" for example.
Any chance I can change this new feature in the editor myself or did you actually add 1 year to EVERY SINGLE PLAYERS one by one?
Thanks guys.
Oskar Bengtsson
Footygamer
I understand and I might rethink it, yes every single players age is changed by one year.
What's your main problem with the age change, is it just that CA won't develop as well?
Can you tell me the team you're referring to and i'll look into it
knotclown
Medmax
Thanks Rob. Like a lot of users, we download a new database to update the new squads and reflect the reality after the transfer window. The reason I'm not keen on the new addition is:
- ALL the players are 1 year older with an unchanged CA, meaning a lack of improvement for the same period of time .To correct that, you'll have to change the CA as well. The CA/PA increase/decrease is very subjective and something that I like to do myself in the editor according to my opinion. If you had to take care of it: 1) the users could disagree with your opinion, 2) it will be EXTREMELY time consuming for you to apply all the change, 3) it will stop some users to choose this database. I have always favoured the sortioutsi update because it NEVER touched the CA/PA up to now. In addition to be very complete and mostly accurate, it makes the difference over all others for me.
I completely understand the idea of +1 year older to reflect real players age RIGHT NOW in real life, but I think it would have been relevant if the start game was in July 2017, but this is not the case and a new save starts in July 2016.
- ALL the players have 1 year less on their contract compare to their real life one. .
For a lot of people, Football Manager helps us to have information about players (age, contract dates, wage...), and this new addition disturbs me a bit. ALL players' date of birth are increased by 1 year, and all their contract ending decreased by 1 year. For me, it doesn't reflect the reality anymore. So to speak, if Neymar is born in 1992 and has a contract ending in 2022 with PSG, that's what I like to see in the game (even if it makes him a 6 years contract instead of 5 since the game start in 2016) and not a "new" birthdate in 1991 with a contract ending in 2021 if you understand me. I like to know players by "age generation" (born in 1995, 1996...) and this confuses me.
Again, I love the sortitoutsi updated database because it is the best one out there. I guess some people would love the new player's age (+1) and new contract (-1) system, but it is just not for me. I hope you'll get my point and you'll be able to separate it in a different file, so we'll have the choice to include it or not.
Hopefully, you'll take into consideration this message. Your updated database always gives a "second life" to Football Manager in September. Moreover and as you know, every time FM comes out in November, the game is flawed with some bugs and become really playable and enjoyable a couple months later. Again, the sortitoutsi data update is the only way for me to keep playing on a stable FM17 with the 2017/18 data until FM18 is patched and fixed.
Thank you for your attention.
Grzegorz Kopeć
EDIT : I unistal all before patch and instal only actualy, and it's helped
QP
And If you don't separate these +1 age files at least warn people about this in info page of data update.
Cymro
They quite clearly do work.
Please ensure that you have the latest DB version of FM17 running, 17.3.
You have deleted all other older version of our DB ... all the files.
Using STEAM to run the game.
Placed the files in the correct editor data folder.
Not using other Transfer Updates which could cause conflict.
CazzaNevs
Please make it a separate file so it can be a choice!
Footygamer
Medmax
Thanks Rob, you're a legend mate...
Gee_Simpson
Thanks for acknowledging his points and deciding to make it seperate, great job!
Tommy Hughes
Pedro de Andrade
Pedro de Andrade
Cymro
You can submit these deals ... here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update#submit_changes
SirTAVARES
no need all deals were done. he probably doesn't have 17.3 patch or didnt deleted old files
as usual
naspa01
finalthrd
I agree with the others not super fond of the +1 edit but can understand why some may be. Look forward to beginning a new save when you release the update with it optional.
In the meantime, do you mind telling me the latest update that doesn't have it included in case I get impatient?
(Referring to this page here - https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/releases/8)
Thanks!
Gee_Simpson
Hi mate I believe the latest one without the +1 year is V11931 - 15th Aug 2017 - 14:02pm
coach.ita
Personally, I'm from the 2012 edition that I use your database. It's the best on the square. You are unique!
finalthrd
stanis.larochelle
Footygamer
As has been said we will change this in the next day or two, just need to find the time
pablito99
Cymro
Please ensure that you have the latest DB version of FM17 running, 17.3.
You have deleted all other older version of our DB ... all the files.
Using STEAM to run the game.
Placed the files in the correct editor data folder.
Not using other Transfer Updates which could cause conflict.
christos93
Cymro
Care to explain further?
pablito99
The update is working properly, because Nasri is already in the new club, and the rest of the players also, not the Lens, who should be on loan in Besiktas